The END of pro photography?? ..... is this the end of a vocation called photography? How much must one spend time in trying to "remove" the mob of camera shooters pushing their way...

FOTOSTAN Loc: Ca..NYC..Fla.

..... is this the end of a vocation called photography? How much must one spend time in trying to "remove" the mob of camera shooters pushing their way into the shoot making it quite difficult to concentrate on a paid for obligation?

mwalsh Loc: Houston

no

Leitz Loc: Solms

FOTOSTAN wrote:

..... is this the end of a vocation called photography? How much must one spend time in trying to "remove" the mob of camera shooters pushing their way into the shoot making it quite difficult to concentrate on a paid for obligation?

Do you have a question??

ecobin Loc: Paoli, PA

FOTOSTAN wrote:

..... is this the end of a vocation called photography? How much must one spend time in trying to "remove" the mob of camera shooters pushing their way into the shoot making it quite difficult to concentrate on a paid for obligation?

Are you suggesting that the CEO of a corporation will do the product shots? LOL

Elliott Design Loc: West Tennessee

Probably not the end but it is changing. I always hated wedding shoots anyway, I'm a lot more satisfied doing nature photography now, the cellphone shooters won't wade through the weeds or climb a tree to shoot an animal but they'll elbow anyone that gets between them and their object of desire in a public place. Or you could do like Hillary and rope yourself off with armed bodyguards to keep everyone out of the way.

FOTOSTAN wrote:

..... is this the end of a vocation called photography? How much must one spend time in trying to "remove" the mob of camera shooters pushing their way into the shoot making it quite difficult to concentrate on a paid for obligation?

pdsdville Loc: Midlothian, Tx

Do I detect a bit of frustration in this post? Sounds like a pro who had a bunch of amateurs in the way on a paid shoot. Just part of the game. Do like I do, just walk in front of them.

camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.

Although there is a plethora of amateur photographers out there doing all kind of jobs, especially "wedding" photographers I tell you there is no substitute for a professional.

Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.

FOTOSTAN wrote:

..... is this the end of a vocation called photography? How much must one spend time in trying to "remove" the mob of camera shooters pushing their way into the shoot making it quite difficult to concentrate on a paid for obligation?

I doubt it. There may be a change in the way professionals go about getting the shot, and there may even be a change in expectations of what the professional can provide when shooting in a "crowded" venue, but I think there will always be a place for the professional photographer.

Swayne

The truth is so many people go out and buy a camera or have a cell phone. Take a thousand pictures and discover they have maybe 3 pictures that are almost fair looking.

Now classify themselves as a professional photographer. They shoot all kinds of gigs for free and usually have no idea what they are doing other than pushing a button. Many of us real photographers call them a "GWC" that stands for "guy with a camera". So if you want to know why you can't make a living shooing its because of the GWC.

cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA

My preference is to do things that the GWC can't. On the sidelines, property, etc.. Many GWCs do not have the proper equipment, technique or experience to get the good shots, and they don't get that light and backgrounds are important. I once shot wrestling for a very small local paper and was asked why the people in the crowd were not in focus. I have no issues working with people who want to learn.

lightchime Loc: Somewhere Over The Rainbow

FOTOSTAN wrote:

..... is this the end of a vocation called photography? How much must one spend time in trying to "remove" the mob of camera shooters pushing their way into the shoot making it quite difficult to concentrate on a paid for obligation?

Les look at your rhetorical question a bit differently. No matter what level of skill a professional possesses, he is a surrogate for someone who is paying him. Why should he have any expectations that he is more important than those of the "mob". This may be appropriate for a wedding where he is hired by someone who is paying for an event. As a general statement, however, why should a professional have any preference not offered by anything but his own sense of arrogance and entitlement.

travelwp Loc: New Jersey

camerapapi wrote:

"wedding" photographers I tell you there is no substitute for a professional.

I agree; however, the younger crowd is used to facebook etc and other online venues, and I don't think they have the same needs for a professional photo album as us older folks did. That being said, when was the last time you looked at your wedding album? Can you even find it ?

pdsdville Loc: Midlothian, Tx

I know that the definition of a Pro is someone who makes their living out of photography but I know a lot of GWC's that take photos to rival the best pros out there. I'm a GWC and have 60 or so awards at local, state, and international levels. I guess I'm an advanced GWC. I study photography for my own pleasure, taking classes, seminars, and reading in my spare time. I'm out shooting several times a week to hone my skills. I probably have 10K worth of equipment, none really fancy but the best quality I could afford. Not all GWC's are bad. When shooting, I see a pro, I stay out of their way out of respect for their job. Remember if it wasn't for the GWC's buying all that photo equipment, there wouldn't be all those choices of equipment to buy. I doubt that there are enough pros out there to support all of them. No disrespect to any hog, pro, or GWC intended. Room for all.

Photocraig

pdsdville wrote:

Do I detect a bit of frustration in this post? Sounds like a pro who had a bunch of amateurs in the way on a paid shoot. Just part of the game. Do like I do, just walk in front of them.

Or turn around and flash them with your strobe. Just a shot of the attendees, after all.

cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA

lightchime wrote:

Les look at your rhetorical question a bit differe... (show quote)

I had no issues until the last line. Sure, there are arrogant pros. When I'm not working, I don't step in front of someone who is. Just happened to me the night before last, but I'm used to it.