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Jan 14, 2019 10:38:02   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Bob Smith wrote:
Yes typical nonsense response but quoting history doesn't quite answer why your head of state can shut down the government and ours can't. If you are the land of the so called free and a democracy how is it one person can shut down the government? Oh! by the way you were a little late in WW1 and WW2. And if you want to be offensive mentioning wars we didn't help you out in Vietnam and look what happened there.


In reading this post it would seem that you need to ask this question of your head of government rather than ask us why our leader can shut down the government but your leader can't.

Dennis

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Jan 14, 2019 10:59:54   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
To more directly answer your question--spending is the perview of the house of Representitives. Since the current budget is not approved a continuing resolution is necessary to keep the Gov't open. The bill must be signed by the Pres. With regard to WW2. The US lend/lease program kept England from conquest. Without supplies from The US there would have been no fuel for the spitfires to stay in the air. Never so few etc. And without Ike and SHAEF England would be speaking German as Overlord never would have happened, because there would not jhave been the supplies. Ask yourself this question. How many graveyard filled with Engilsh dead form WW2 are there in the US--None why? How many US dead in GB and Europen graveyards arfe there-many- Why?

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Jan 14, 2019 11:09:28   #
Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM
 
Bob Smith wrote:
I often post things on here and us Brits are always criticised by Americans that we are ruled by the Queen. Which is nonsense the Queen has no power over government and would quickly be overruled by the government of she tried something like Mr Trump has. So my question is if the president can shut down the government which country is run by government and which run by a demigod.


Your ignorance of how our government works, how it has been “shut down” (actually a partial shutdown of 25% of it), and who/what events worked to make it happen is palpable.

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Jan 14, 2019 11:09:49   #
Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM
 
Kraken wrote:
No he is not.


As are you.

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Jan 14, 2019 11:10:03   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
boberic wrote:
To more directly answer your question--spending is the perview of the house of Representitives. Since the current budget is not approved a continuing resolution is necessary to keep the Gov't open. The bill must be signed by the Pres. With regard to WW2. The US lend/lease program kept England from conquest. Without supplies from The US there would have been no fuel for the spitfires to stay in the air. Never so few etc. And without Ike and SHAEF England would be speaking German as Overlord never would have happened, because there would not jhave been the supplies. Ask yourself this question. How many graveyard filled with Engilsh dead form WW2 are there in the US--None why? How many US dead in GB and Europen graveyards arfe there-many- Why?
To more directly answer your question--spending is... (show quote)



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Jan 14, 2019 11:10:55   #
Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Late to WWII?
Yeah, because we didn't start it.
But when the "Sleeping giant was awakened" we kicked butt and got it over with while you were cowering on your little island and watching the "Empire" collapse like a house of cards to third rate powers. We had to gear up and then rolled over Germany and Japan like they were nothing. You lost the far east without even a fight hardly, same for Africa. If we had not given you supplies and materials you would have folded in a matter of months prior to our official entry into WWII. Not sure what they teach you there but we armed the world including the Soviets.
It wasn't our fight, like WWI wasn't but we finished it.
PS After WWII the "Empire" was gone and GB was just a little island needing the USA for defense to this day.
Late to WWII? br Yeah, because we didn't start it.... (show quote)


He forgot to mention Churchill begging us to enter WWII.

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Jan 14, 2019 11:34:00   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
Architect1776 wrote:
It is from someone who has studied the war.
Read many books including Churchill's 6 volume series, which you haven't.


Church Hill drawed the border lines wrong in middle east. An he was a lifelong cocaine user an acholic

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Jan 14, 2019 11:49:56   #
yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon
 
Bob Smith wrote:
I often post things on here and us Brits are always criticised by Americans that we are ruled by the Queen. Which is nonsense the Queen has no power over government and would quickly be overruled by the government of she tried something like Mr Trump has. So my question is if the president can shut down the government which country is run by government and which run by a demigod.


It’s called a constitutional right. Anti-American non-Americans will never understand this.

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Jan 14, 2019 12:10:25   #
Bob Smith Loc: Banjarmasin
 
boberic wrote:
To more directly answer your question--spending is the perview of the house of Representitives. Since the current budget is not approved a continuing resolution is necessary to keep the Gov't open. The bill must be signed by the Pres. With regard to WW2. The US lend/lease program kept England from conquest. Without supplies from The US there would have been no fuel for the spitfires to stay in the air. Never so few etc. And without Ike and SHAEF England would be speaking German as Overlord never would have happened, because there would not jhave been the supplies. Ask yourself this question. How many graveyard filled with Engilsh dead form WW2 are there in the US--None why? How many US dead in GB and Europen graveyards arfe there-many- Why?
To more directly answer your question--spending is... (show quote)


Good points and true but if those things had never happened would Hitler have eventually carried on and maybe there would have been US soldier graves on US soil. The point made earlier about US saving us with guns/ materials is the fact that it is often put as if it were free which it was not, like I mentioned we finished our war debt in 2006.

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Jan 14, 2019 12:17:37   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
Bob Smith wrote:
Good points and true but if those things had never happened would Hitler have eventually carried on and maybe there would have been US soldier graves on US soil. The point made earlier about US saving us with guns/ materials is the fact that it is often put as if it were free which it was not, like I mentioned we finished our war debt in 2006.


Free or paid for, with out our help you would have been in a world of hurt. It is history, move on.

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Jan 14, 2019 12:47:54   #
Twardlow Loc: Arkansas
 
boberic wrote:
To more directly answer your question--spending is the perview of the house of Representitives. Since the current budget is not approved a continuing resolution is necessary to keep the Gov't open. The bill must be signed by the Pres. With regard to WW2. The US lend/lease program kept England from conquest. Without supplies from The US there would have been no fuel for the spitfires to stay in the air. Never so few etc. And without Ike and SHAEF England would be speaking German as Overlord never would have happened, because there would not jhave been the supplies. Ask yourself this question. How many graveyard filled with Engilsh dead form WW2 are there in the US--None why? How many US dead in GB and Europen graveyards arfe there-many- Why?
To more directly answer your question--spending is... (show quote)


Pardon me for correcting you, but the word you want is not ‘conquest,’ but conquer.

con·quest

the subjugation and assumption of control of a place or people by use of military force.

"the conquest of the Aztecs by the Spanish"

“the invasion and assumption of control of England by William of Normandy in 1066.

‘Conquest’ is something the victor does, not the vanquished.

The vanquished are conquered.

“How many graveyard filled with Engilsh dead form WW2 are there in the US--None why?”

The answer is because we don’t import casualties from England to be buried in this country.

You are correct, we probably saved England in WW II, and we probably did it is self defense.

And more than that, we set up NATO which has kept the world from another world war—at least until trump, acting at Putin’s orders, attacked NATO to make Europe more vulnerable to Russia’s adventures.

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Jan 14, 2019 13:06:27   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
Twardlow wrote:
Pardon me for correcting you, but the word you want is not ‘conquest,’ but conquer.

con·quest

the subjugation and assumption of control of a place or people by use of military force.

"the conquest of the Aztecs by the Spanish"

“the invasion and assumption of control of England by William of Normandy in 1066.

‘Conquest’ is something the victor does, not the vanquished.

The vanquished are conquered.

“How many graveyard filled with Engilsh dead form WW2 are there in the US--None why?”

The answer is because we don’t import casualties from England to be buried in this country.

You are correct, we probably saved England in WW II, and we probably did it is self defense.

And more than that, we set up NATO which has kept the world from another world war—at least until trump, acting at Putin’s orders, attacked NATO to make Europe more vulnerable to Russia’s adventures.
Pardon me for correcting you, but the word you wan... (show quote)


Little tard, you continually reach new lows in your quest to APPEAR superior. Most adults would be able to understand what was meant and move on. Not you, your little ego makes you point it out. Finally you finish in all your glory and with saying Trump acts on Putin's orders.......Intelligence and credibility at ZERO.

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Jan 14, 2019 13:08:20   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
boberic wrote:
To more directly answer your question--spending is the perview of the house of Representitives. Since the current budget is not approved a continuing resolution is necessary to keep the Gov't open. The bill must be signed by the Pres. With regard to WW2. The US lend/lease program kept England from conquest. Without supplies from The US there would have been no fuel for the spitfires to stay in the air. Never so few etc. And without Ike and SHAEF England would be speaking German as Overlord never would have happened, because there would not jhave been the supplies. Ask yourself this question. How many graveyard filled with Engilsh dead form WW2 are there in the US--None why? How many US dead in GB and Europen graveyards arfe there-many- Why?
To more directly answer your question--spending is... (show quote)


Do you really believe that if England had been allowed to fail the US would not have been in peril? As much as anything we fought over there so we wouldn’t have to fight here. Personally I think Americans would have a healthier outlook towards war if it had been fought over here, but the price would have been too high. As far as where the bodies are buried, are you familiar with the Atlantic and Pacific oceans?

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Jan 14, 2019 13:13:37   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Elaine2025 wrote:
Free or paid for, with out our help you would have been in a world of hurt. It is history, move on.


Everyone gives their opinion here, and that is good. You are among a very few here who then go on to tell others what to do. You sound much more like a teenage boy than a woman, to me.

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Jan 14, 2019 13:16:03   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
thom w wrote:
Everyone gives their opinion here, and that is good. You are among a very few here who then go on to tell others what to do. You sound much more like a teenage boy than a woman, to me.


Little tommie you are rambling again. Then you repeat what I have said about you. Do you ever have an original thought? I don't think you do. Someone else says it first or you get it from Mad Cow.

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