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Sep 24, 2018 16:46:19   #
fantom Loc: Colorado
 
Strodav wrote:
If used, I’m sure some DA somewhere, probably California, will prosecute you for damaging the ears of your assailant, they will apply for workman’s comp, you will face a federal suit for violating the rights of the perpetrators to assault you and a civil suit by the perpetrators for causing ptsd. I live in Texas where you still have the right to defend yourself.


You hit the nail on the head with your California comments.

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Sep 24, 2018 17:07:22   #
ralphfr Loc: Long Island, NY
 
photodoc16 wrote:
Maroon is a color or a state of being left somewhere isolated.
Moron is what you intended. No?
Photodoc16


SEE: Bugs Bunny!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NYFq7ZJg4c

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Sep 24, 2018 17:47:19   #
GrumpyOldBeardGuy
 
I guess there are some advantages to being poor.

Unless someone would think my Medic Alert necklace would be worth something.

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Sep 24, 2018 19:31:21   #
fotoman150
 
johneccles wrote:
That's an extremely derogatory comment you have just made and it is entirely incorrect. Europe is no worse or better than any country in the world and that includes the US. The real problem is US tourists often can be seen festooned with expensive camera equipment and are tempting thieves to grab and run. Only last week I was in Normandy near Utah and there were three US visitors fitting this description, gladly the place was not a city
so although they were a target nothing happened to their cameras.
That's an extremely derogatory comment you have ju... (show quote)


Blame the victim!

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Sep 24, 2018 19:41:47   #
le boecere
 
fotoman150 wrote:
Blame the victim!


And, co-dependency at its finest!

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Sep 24, 2018 20:25:00   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Bravo wrote:
Carrying a firearm particularly to a foreign country is the damn dumbest thing I've ever heard of. Not only do you put yourself in a precarious position for further violence, you make yourself a target for local police. It's an unfortunate reality that crime does not allow us to use the photographic equipment we would like to but that's the reality of life. Lest you think I am some sort of anti-gun tree-hugging liberal, I am not. I am an experienced gun owner who no longer carries a gun and a Viet Nam era vet. Once you pull your gun, you had better be ready to use it (take a life, that's what it's for ultimately) otherwise don't carry it. It's a slippery slope only authorized trained personnel should have the responsibility of having. A camera, jewelry etc. can always be replaced.
Carrying a firearm particularly to a foreign count... (show quote)


So then you advocate just giving thieves whatever they want to preserve life.

As an experienced gun owner you probably know that those who fight back have a better chance of survival than those who do not. You must also know that firearms are carried and displayed to bandits hundreds of thousands times a year but not fired. Simply showing you have a firearm wards off most thugs.

As an ex cop I refuse to give up anything.

Dennis

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Sep 24, 2018 20:28:06   #
hjachym Loc: West Michigan
 
azted wrote:
So by your standard, a skimpily attired woman deserves to get raped! Sure blame the victim "rich Americans". Seriously, you need an education!

Absolutely a "skimpily attired woman" does not deserve to be raped any more than "rich Americans" deserve to be robbed. However there are things one can do to make then less likely to become a victim. Certainly a skimpy outfit in a club is different than walking a street in a shady area. Same goes for touring, be it Europe, Asia, US or anywhere. Use descresion. Carry your expensive camera while touring, that's what it was purchased for. Just do it in a safe manner. Use situational awareness, street smarts.

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Sep 24, 2018 21:04:27   #
ovrwatch
 
I’m not sure if you want to go that route my friend. Dont get me wrong I believe everyone should use their 2nd amendment right to a weapon, i carry concealed everyday. Now between being in the Navy and then the Army after that, i have also been to tactical training classes. In every instance of training you are taught not to pull your weapon unless you feel your life or someone elses life is in danger or great bodily harm. Now being in your 70’s the amount of force you are allowed to escalate to, if you feel your life or someones life is in danger, can be reached sooner. This being said though you cant pull your weapon just because you are being tapdanced robbed. If someone pulls a weapon this is a different story. And if you are going to carry and you dont want to carry a full size weapon, dont go with the pico. My buddy got his daughter one and soon realized how bad it actually was and upgraded her. I carry a compact px4 storm berretta. But a nice small very concealable weapon is the glock 43, and its reliable my wife carrys one. You never want to have to use it but if you do need it you will be glad you had it, just not to save a camera...

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Sep 24, 2018 21:12:55   #
woodweasel Loc: bellingham Wa
 
sorry my friend

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Sep 24, 2018 21:31:50   #
ceallachain Loc: Cape May, NJ
 
Situational Awareness! No matter where you are. Minimize to what you really need only. Keep your hand free. Use a sling type strap for your camera and if possible hook it to one of your belt loops not your belt. If you must carry a wallet, do so in your front pocket and wrap a rubber band around it. Stay safe.

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Sep 24, 2018 21:59:43   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
I just wear a T-shirt that says on both sides, “you don’t messa with my camera, I won’t breaka yo FACE”!!!
So far so good!!! LoL
SS

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Sep 24, 2018 22:11:54   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
le boecere wrote:
Plus tattoos, booze, expensive street-drugs, the latest smartphones, and an encyclopedic expertise in gaming the System.


CRAP! I meant to add smartphones. I hate this getting old stuff. But I will keep it up as long as I can.

Dennis

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Sep 24, 2018 22:19:44   #
ceallachain Loc: Cape May, NJ
 

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Sep 24, 2018 22:20:34   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
ovrwatch wrote:
I’m not sure if you want to go that route my friend. Dont get me wrong I believe everyone should use their 2nd amendment right to a weapon, i carry concealed everyday. Now between being in the Navy and then the Army after that, i have also been to tactical training classes. In every instance of training you are taught not to pull your weapon unless you feel your life or someone elses life is in danger or great bodily harm. Now being in your 70’s the amount of force you are allowed to escalate to, if you feel your life or someones life is in danger, can be reached sooner. This being said though you cant pull your weapon just because you are being tapdanced robbed. If someone pulls a weapon this is a different story. And if you are going to carry and you dont want to carry a full size weapon, dont go with the pico. My buddy got his daughter one and soon realized how bad it actually was and upgraded her. I carry a compact px4 storm berretta. But a nice small very concealable weapon is the glock 43, and its reliable my wife carrys one. You never want to have to use it but if you do need it you will be glad you had it, just not to save a camera...
I’m not sure if you want to go that route my frien... (show quote)


Who are you talking to? If you click on, Quote Reply, before answering we will all know who you are replying to.

Dennis

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Sep 24, 2018 23:30:38   #
bobalou Loc: 98225
 
Now wings, what would you do, pull out your gun and start shooting? Or would you just threaten to shoot? Either way, you'd be putting bystanders in jeopardy. Think how you'd feel if you hurt someone. Think how you'd feel when the cops pulled you into the station...might ruin your vacation.

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