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Apr 9, 2018 16:38:06   #
FrumCA
 
KGOldWolf wrote:
Stereotyping is a coarse way of identifying the most statistically relevant portion of a measured population. The stereotypical Trump supporter is: middle aged, white, high school educated, disenfranchised voter. I didn’t make this up, it is the reality of what is Trump’s stereotypical supporter.

Then again, one can always call it “fake news” when what is reported does not concur with one’s “considered opinion”.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/528519/
Stereotyping is a coarse way of identifying the mo... (show quote)


Actually you did make this up or at the very least skewed the article by interjecting your opinion that the stereotypical Trump supporter is disenfranchised. The article says no such thing.

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Apr 9, 2018 16:41:24   #
Bazbo Loc: Lisboa, Portugal
 
boberic wrote:
Are you saying that there are only 100 votes-2 per states- in the electoral college? Then how come it takes 270 electoral college votes to win.?


Kind of embarrassing that I actually have to explain this to you.

WY population 579,000. WY Electoral votes 3. populatio per vote: 193,000

CA Population 39,537,000 Electoral votes 55. population per vote: 1,130,000

Find an arithmetic tutor in your area.

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Apr 9, 2018 16:42:41   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
phcaan wrote:
How can you say that? Twardlow himself has told us that the only people with education enough and wisdom enough to be allowed to vote live in those 3 cities, what could possibly be better for America than that?


Yet Twardlow, being a Liberal, would PROBABLY, want to go along with many Liberals in thinking that even illegal aliens should vote since they live in America now anyway. How those people could be educated, and wise enough to vote for the right person doesn't make sense to me. But for most Liberals the right person is ONLY the Democratic Party nominee anyway.

Dennis

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Apr 9, 2018 16:50:55   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Twardlow wrote:
Obama did several things. However, when he approached Congressional Leaders to do more, Mitch declined, accusing Obama of Partisan Politics. This is all on the record.

There HAS been Collusion, 19 secret meetings, denied, admitted and finally acknowledged; the June meeting between Don junior and Russian Agents, where they said they had dirt on Hillary and wanted to talk sanctions—Don said he loved it, admitted later, and produced emails; you are correct, these examples of collusion may or may not be instances of Conspiracy, the illegal version of Collusion.

Mueller is investigating all this collusion, deciding whether it was legal or illegal, and whether it deserves charges to be filed.

So, this. “Put another way, just because you scream there was collusion doesn't mean there was any at all. It just suits your Liberal agenda that there should be some somewhere,” is misguided; there WAS collusion, but collusion is not illegal, and liberal or conservative has nothing to do with anything here.
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But whether you admit it or not, there was also collusion from the DNC and Hillary regarding the russians. Just because there were meetings does not absolutely mean there was collusion does it. You might also remember that infamous meeting between Bill Clinton and Loretta Lynch. Was there collusion there OR were they simply discussing grandkids and their golf games which is what they said.

Whatever, it is apparently you have already made up your mind that Trump is guilty as sin and nothing will change that steel trap mind of yours. I am patient enough to wait and see.

Dennis

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Apr 9, 2018 17:00:52   #
KGOldWolf
 
FrumCA wrote:
Actually you did make this up or at the very least skewed the article by interjecting your opinion that the stereotypical Trump supporter is disenfranchised. The article says no such thing.


The article states (among other noteworthy points): “Republicans now routinely amass wide margins among whites without a college degree...”

Are you suggesting that Trump supporters aren’t angry, and disenfranchised? All you need do is read the bombastic posts, homophobic ridicule and other immature rants to see what you apparently and conveniently choose to ignore. I’m not lauding Hiliary supporters but their bombast is a bit more elevated.

But, just dismiss it all as my personal spin... take your head of the sand. Trump’s populist appeal is not for the discerning among us but for the angry citizens who have felt victimized by the system that others wrongfully exploit.

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Apr 9, 2018 18:52:25   #
Bazbo Loc: Lisboa, Portugal
 
boberic wrote:
It's true that Hillary won the popular vote by about 3 million votes. The question is--Do you want the President to be selected by only 3 cities in the country. LA, San Francisco and the city of New York account for the 3 million more votes. I am willing to bet that 350 million people would not.


Lets turn your argument around, just to show how silly it is.

If you exclude the votes of just three counties: Westmoreland PA, St. Clair MI and Washington WI, then Hillary is President.

This idiot sword you are trying to wield swings both ways.

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Apr 9, 2018 18:59:57   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Twardlow wrote:
Now that we can add rudeness and vulgarity to your ignorance (things really begin to add up, don’t they?) let me say that many people have a serious business in understanding elections and what happened in the voting. Trump’s voters were people just like you, Dennis, except most of them are not so far behind times as you are.

Generally, Trump voters were older white males, uneducated, and made useless by being unqualified of newer technology. There was a strong correlation with opioid use, and even increased suicide rates. That is, older, uneducated white men, lost to technology, unhappy, and destructive.

None of the is ‘racist shit,’ just close analysis of who voted for whom and what it seems to mean.

None of us are racist against our own white people; you just don’t understand what racism is.

Someone is racist when he thinks one race is better than another, or worse than another on the basis of race alone.

No one has said anything like this except you.


Now, moving on, Trump hasn’t cleared up anything. In fact he hasn’t done anything except pass one tax bill which was a huge payoff for the Trump family, and will raise taxes for people like you.

In fact Trump is a disaster, threatening war with North Korea and Syria, and already starting a trade war with China, will never build his stupid wall, hasn’t done anything with his racist Muslim bill, and is bringing profound disaster upon the Republican Party. He may be actually destroying the Republican Party.

Dennis, you suffer not from Conservatism, but of a severely closed mind. You haven’t kept up with what’s going on, don’t understand what’s going on, and will probably never catch up.

However, you are getting increasingly rude and crude.
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You keep bringing up uneducated when referring to Trump voters. Where do you come up with that crap? Speaking of crap, whatever vulgarity you think, was it horseshit you are referring to, is just a smattering of the insults we receive from you on a daily basis. It is nothing but the Hillaryesque behavior of seemingly wondering how we, the peons of society got to vote in the big election. You evoke the same feelings when you go off on your stupid idiotic tirades to me and others of how uneducated we are, pig farmers and so on. You sound like some Liberal dumb ass professor or Oprah, even Michelle Obama, herself telling us the world would be better off without old white people, the military or anybody at all who does not think exactly as you do. Unfortunately for you it is the rest of us who won this election round. How does it feel to have your royal highnesses beaten badly by supposed rabble such as you hold us to be? In my opinion it was an easy victory. After all your Queen Hillary really beat herself. We could not have done it without her.

How stupid can she be as too tell an entire work force, coal minors, she will put them out of business? How stupid of her to call potential independent voters, deplorables? How idiotic of her to illegally delete 30,000 emails or send classified documents to people who have no security clearance? How stupid of her to cheat on the elections as well as to force BernievSanders out? Yet Twardlow this unethical, lying corrupt bitch was YOUR choice. How does it feel to know for the rest of your life you were on the losing side of a cheater? Congratulations.

Dennis

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Apr 9, 2018 19:06:44   #
Black Bart Loc: Indiana
 
BobHartung wrote:
And remember the corruption, dishonesty and incompetence we had before.

Your words "uneducated and bitter pig farmers" belie your ignorance and show a predetermined mind set that you are better than everyone else.
You are correct and if it was not for those people he calls ignorant he would go to shit hungry.
They are running a multi million dollar operation so dumb ass like him can have something to eat.

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Apr 9, 2018 19:08:14   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
Bazbo wrote:
Kind of embarrassing that I actually have to explain this to you.

WY population 579,000. WY Electoral votes 3. populatio per vote: 193,000

CA Population 39,537,000 Electoral votes 55. population per vote: 1,130,000

Find an arithmetic tutor in your area.

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Apr 9, 2018 19:12:36   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
You said thateach state had 2 senators and 2 electoral votes. 50 states =100 electoral votes. Nothing wrong with my arithmetic.

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Apr 9, 2018 19:22:57   #
FrumCA
 
KGOldWolf wrote:
The article states (among other noteworthy points): “Republicans now routinely amass wide margins among whites without a college degree...”

Are you suggesting that Trump supporters aren’t angry, and disenfranchised? All you need do is read the bombastic posts, homophobic ridicule and other immature rants to see what you apparently and conveniently choose to ignore. I’m not lauding Hiliary supporters but their bombast is a bit more elevated.

But, just dismiss it all as my personal spin... take your head of the sand. Trump’s populist appeal is not for the discerning among us but for the angry citizens who have felt victimized by the system that others wrongfully exploit.
The article states (among other noteworthy points)... (show quote)

I am speaking only about your attempt interject the disenfranchisement factor into the article. It made no such reference. It's important to keep the facts intact and not subject them to your personal spin. Unfortunately too many of the folks who might be following you may believe you if your lie isn't corrected. It's nothing more than that.

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Apr 9, 2018 19:39:53   #
KGOldWolf
 
FrumCA wrote:
I am speaking only about your attempt interject the disenfranchisement factor into the article. It made no such reference. It's important to keep the facts intact and not subject them to your personal spin. Unfortunately too many of the folks who might be following you may believe you if your lie isn't corrected. It's nothing more than that.

Great, you claim Trump voters are not disenfranchised. Are you serious?

Ever hear the phrase “drain the swamp”? Ever see his base reject that goal? Would that war cry resonate with people who are pleased with their government?

You don’t like the message so you attack the messenger.. That is as disingenuous as it gets; your reply is perfectly moronic.

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Apr 9, 2018 19:47:45   #
papakatz45 Loc: South Florida-West Palm Beach
 
dennis2146 wrote:
You keep bringing up uneducated when referring to Trump voters. Where do you come up with that crap? Speaking of crap, whatever vulgarity you think, was it horseshit you are referring to, is just a smattering of the insults we receive from you on a daily basis. It is nothing but the Hillaryesque behavior of seemingly wondering how we, the peons of society got to vote in the big election. You evoke the same feelings when you go off on your stupid idiotic tirades to me and others of how uneducated we are, pig farmers and so on. You sound like some Liberal dumb ass professor or Oprah, even Michelle Obama, herself telling us the world would be better off without old white people, the military or anybody at all who does not think exactly as you do. Unfortunately for you it is the rest of us who won this election round. How does it feel to have your royal highnesses beaten badly by supposed rabble such as you hold us to be? In my opinion it was an easy victory. After all your Queen Hillary really beat herself. We could not have done it without her.

How stupid can she be as too tell an entire work force, coal minors, she will put them out of business? How stupid of her to call potential independent voters, deplorables? How idiotic of her to illegally delete 30,000 emails or send classified documents to people who have no security clearance? How stupid of her to cheat on the elections as well as to force BernievSanders out? Yet Twardlow this unethical, lying corrupt bitch was YOUR choice. How does it feel to know for the rest of your life you were on the losing side of a cheater? Congratulations.

Dennis
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Well said.

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Apr 9, 2018 19:52:59   #
Twardlow Loc: Arkansas
 
LWW wrote:
At that time nobody voted for POTUS.

Read a book.


Body votes for one now, do they?

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Apr 9, 2018 19:57:55   #
Twardlow Loc: Arkansas
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Yet Twardlow, being a Liberal, would PROBABLY, want to go along with many Liberals in thinking that even illegal aliens should vote since they live in America now anyway. How those people could be educated, and wise enough to vote for the right person doesn't make sense to me. But for most Liberals the right person is ONLY the Democratic Party nominee anyway.

Dennis


You guys are both dishonest, claiming I said things I never said. You lie, just like your candidate and president.

I guess if you can’t win a discussion, you just follow Trump and prevaricate; maybe it’s catching.

Used to be that honor was aspired to, even by republicans.

Those were the days, right?

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