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Mar 10, 2018 18:53:58   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Virtually every Nikon owner on this forum advertise each piece of equipment they get and the expected delivery date.
I get the same grief over giving my address here but the house is internationally known with the address. There are tours through it and in the papers.
Yes we have a security system so if it goes off while we are home the police will be in time to collect the dead intruder and we never advertise going on a trip ever until we are back.


Quite. Especially about not advertising when you are away until you return. It is so easy to find most people and their residence. I have no problem with the concept of a dead intruder, just making sure that you have enough evidence on your side to demonstrate that the use of lethal force was warranted and legally acceptable. You don't want to go to jail for taking out a bad guy.

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Mar 10, 2018 19:07:26   #
Jim Bob
 
digit-up wrote:
Jim bob is on many folks "IGNORE-LIST for many SUCH mean-ness. RJM


Worn as a badge of honor. Make sure you add me to yours and I will kindly reciprocate.

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Mar 10, 2018 19:15:03   #
Jim Bob
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
This forum needs candor, honesty, and the occasional ungracious comment.
The polite, always-agreeable contributions do little to incite meaningful discussion.
Gathering my gear, and taking a group shot of it, to be posted; is not my cup of tea either.
Kumbaya.


That’s because you are blessed with good sense.

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Mar 10, 2018 19:17:38   #
Jim Bob
 
edrobinsonjr wrote:
So, you won't be driving your car to work on Monday lest the criminals see what you drive...


Is that your idea of an analogy? Oh my God are you in need of ...

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Mar 10, 2018 19:19:57   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Peterff wrote:
Quite. Especially about not advertising when you are away until you return. It is so easy to find most people and their residence. I have no problem with the concept of a dead intruder, just making sure that you have enough evidence on your side to demonstrate that the use of lethal force was warranted and legally acceptable. You don't want to go to jail for taking out a bad guy.


In PA the standard is very low from your front porch on to the interior.
I attended a specific class on this presented by a lawyer who deals with this and a state representative who also presented on the law.

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Mar 10, 2018 19:20:10   #
Jim Bob
 
Harvey wrote:
ROTFLMAO I have been on internet groups for over 20 yrs and this is the most paranoid statement I have ever read - I am having a hard time understanding how anyone could track down where someone lives/their home address from an internet post.
Harvey in the Sierras


Man, you are either naive or deplorably ignorant.

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Mar 10, 2018 19:22:08   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
Architect1776 wrote:
In PA the standard is very low from your front porch on to the interior.
I attended a specific class on this presented by a lawyer who deals with this and a state representative who also presented on the law.


Well, that's what I would put under the category of responsible gun ownership.

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Mar 10, 2018 19:22:31   #
Jim Bob
 
Harvey wrote:
Peter - I was not aware of the GPS info that is recorded on some photos - yes that makes a big difference - I am sure my camera gear is not spreading my address info.
Oh - over the past 2 weeks I have added another $29.99 worth of gear to my T3i kit.
Harvey


Ignorance is bliss and frequently very dangerous. I look forward to your apology.

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Mar 10, 2018 20:28:21   #
E.L.. Shapiro Loc: Ottawa, Ontario Canada
 
I don't think that photographic equipment is a major target for professional thieves and career criminals. Perhaps, I am out of the news loop but I haven't ever heard of a huge camera heist on the same level of jewelry, precious metals and gemstones, art and of course cash.

In the cases of the photographers in my city, that have sustained losses of gear due to break-ins, auto smash and grabs and sneak thieves at on-location sites, when the perpetrators were found out and arrested, most of them were petty criminals looking for fast sales of hot gear for for dope money and situations like that. Many were caught at local pawn shops and camera stores attempting to sell the gear and in many cases the equipment was recovered. Your equipment should nonetheless be insured and well secured against theft and other perils.

On the other side of the argument, privacy, security and safety are not what they once were in today's electronics and computer age. There is petty stuff lie folks eavesdropping on their neighbors by listening in on others baby monitors and heavy duty cyber-shams that net criminals millions of dollars.

So many seemingly harmless apps on your iphone can track your location, your shopping habits and your banking business. Identity theft is a major criminal industry. Just about every week there is news of a a hack that breeches all kids of computer systems and placed confidential information in the hands of criminals. Come-on folks, who the heck really needs GPS tracking in their CAMERA- what for? All of this gives new meaning to the phrase “too much information” - just too much data on all of us flying around the internet just waiting to get hacked.

It's enough make any sane person at least a little bit paranoid.

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Mar 10, 2018 20:42:55   #
Harvey Loc: Pioneer, CA
 
I think you missed my later post where I admitted not being aware of people having GPS info in their photos as I sure don't on my older/less expensive cameras-

Harvey
Jim Bob wrote:
Man, you are either naive or deplorably ignorant.

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Mar 10, 2018 20:57:05   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
It seems nearly everyone on the UHH describes or lists gear, so picturing it is little different. Since we are all more or less in the same boat we can operate on trust (I hope). I at least am careful not to give out my address to strangers on the Web unless I am buying something from them. Even with personal friends I don't post on FB or UHH my plans beforehand. If I'm letting someone know what I am going to do I chat by IM, PM, email, text, etc. Should I have been making a list of D850 purchasers? Would such a list sell on Craig's List? (I'm kidding of course. And am greatly bothered by any tales of members' losses to theft).

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Mar 10, 2018 21:08:37   #
Harvey Loc: Pioneer, CA
 
I think this is an accurate statement as we see posts all the time of folks loosing their cameras and gear being stolen from their cars but seldom their homes. When I lived in East Contra Costa County - referred to by the locals as a bedroom community of San Francisco home robberies were pretty frequent and I talked with friends who had been hit and it seemed EVER THING of value that was either out in the open in the house was grabbed as well as their main target in every home - THE MASTER BEDROOM, the top dresser drawers, the master bedroom closets - a GOLD MINE in every one. Camera gear is just as important as watches and jewelry - guns in there too- mine are. Fortunate now live in a very secluded, isolated area - well back in the woods and 75% of the residents are retired folks who watch out for each other and the others are quite vigilant.

Harvey
E.L.. Shapiro wrote:
I don't think that photographic equipment is a major target for professional thieves and career criminals. Perhaps, I am out of the news loop but I haven't ever heard of a huge camera heist on the same level of jewelry, precious metals and gemstones, art and of course cash.

In the cases of the photographers in my city, that have sustained losses of gear due to break-ins, auto smash and grabs and sneak thieves at on-location sites, when the perpetrators were found out and arrested, most of them were petty criminals looking for fast sales of hot gear for for dope money and situations like that. Many were caught at local pawn shops and camera stores attempting to sell the gear and in many cases the equipment was recovered. Your equipment should nonetheless be insured and well secured against theft and other perils.

On the other side of the argument, privacy, security and safety are not what they once were in today's electronics and computer age. There is petty stuff lie folks eavesdropping on their neighbors by listening in on others baby monitors and heavy duty cyber-shams that net criminals millions of dollars.

So many seemingly harmless apps on your iphone can track your location, your shopping habits and your banking business. Identity theft is a major criminal industry. Just about every week there is news of a a hack that breeches all kids of computer systems and placed confidential information in the hands of criminals. Come-on folks, who the heck really needs GPS tracking in their CAMERA- what for? All of this gives new meaning to the phrase “too much information” - just too much data on all of us flying around the internet just waiting to get hacked.

It's enough make any sane person at least a little bit paranoid.
I don't think that photographic equipment is a maj... (show quote)

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Mar 10, 2018 21:21:10   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
E.L.. Shapiro wrote:
I don't think that photographic equipment is a major target for professional thieves and career criminals. Perhaps, I am out of the news loop but I haven't ever heard of a huge camera heist on the same level of jewelry, precious metals and gemstones, art and of course cash.

In the cases of the photographers in my city, that have sustained losses of gear due to break-ins, auto smash and grabs and sneak thieves at on-location sites, when the perpetrators were found out and arrested, most of them were petty criminals looking for fast sales of hot gear for for dope money and situations like that. Many were caught at local pawn shops and camera stores attempting to sell the gear and in many cases the equipment was recovered. Your equipment should nonetheless be insured and well secured against theft and other perils.

On the other side of the argument, privacy, security and safety are not what they once were in today's electronics and computer age. There is petty stuff lie folks eavesdropping on their neighbors by listening in on others baby monitors and heavy duty cyber-shams that net criminals millions of dollars.

So many seemingly harmless apps on your iphone can track your location, your shopping habits and your banking business. Identity theft is a major criminal industry. Just about every week there is news of a a hack that breeches all kids of computer systems and placed confidential information in the hands of criminals. Come-on folks, who the heck really needs GPS tracking in their CAMERA- what for? All of this gives new meaning to the phrase “too much information” - just too much data on all of us flying around the internet just waiting to get hacked.

It's enough make any sane person at least a little bit paranoid.
I don't think that photographic equipment is a maj... (show quote)


That may be mostly true for still photography, but video equipment is targeted, including on the street robberies from news crews. Professional video equipment is a lot more valuable than still cameras, typically. http://www.eastbaytimes.com/2017/07/21/robbers-target-film-crews-in-oakland-san-francisco-emeryville/

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Mar 10, 2018 22:44:16   #
Angmo
 
I stuff mine in these and is protected by that...





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Mar 10, 2018 23:44:50   #
afharris777
 
I'm new here, just joined 12/2017, and I have read some of the comments regarding Show me your gear, and by far sir, you really hit it dead on. Whether you show your gear or not, it your choice, but the name calling and rudeness, WOW !!! I appreciate all the information I can obtain as a beginner and the pictures that some of you show of your gear help me alot. Again thank you for your comment and on how you kept it professional and clean, and all the other professional photographer that showed class in your comments , I can only believe you all take some great pictures and have a lot to offer beginners such as myself instructions on photography.

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