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Feb 27, 2018 23:50:04   #
cwp3420
 
Twardlow wrote:
I didn’t say they were impartial, but that they were interested parties.


So are firearm owners, the NRA, and gun manufacturers.

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Feb 27, 2018 23:51:21   #
cwp3420
 
mjmoore17 wrote:
Because the laws that we have are not adequate and you along with the NRA do not want to strengthen them. Want a farce, to try and identify as a victim. The real victims are the thousands killed every year from your desire to expand your sexual organ.


Must be why you carry a .22 Short in your pants, midget.

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Feb 27, 2018 23:53:41   #
cwp3420
 
mjmoore17 wrote:
In your own words, without asking your mom for help is your definition of independent thinking? It does not matter what I think is the definition of semiautomatic weapons, it matters what the courts think. Now for you, as if anyone cares, what is your detailed analysis of court decisions on semiautomatic and automatic weapons?


You can’t own automatic weapons unless you go though a thorough background check by the FBI and have tens of thousands of dollars to pay for them. You really know nothing about firearms laws, do you?

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Feb 27, 2018 23:56:30   #
cwp3420
 
thom w wrote:
Do you have a better way to put fewer guns in the hands of criminals? I have no desire to add to a burglary victims problems, but sometimes consequences are all that will deter bad practices. When you purchase something with that much potential for causing harm I believe it is your responsibility to keep it out of the wrong hands. You owe that to society.


Why don’t liberals ever advocate throwing the book at criminals who possess or use firearms in the commission of a crime? Would you support mandatory sentences for them of 25 years per violation, no parole? Also, no bail on those charges. That would stop some of this and not impact lawful owners of firearms.

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Feb 28, 2018 00:02:00   #
cwp3420
 
SharpShooter wrote:
This is a difficult concept to conprehend if you have a low IQ.
So I’ll start with a VERY easy question.....
If ZERO guns where available to the people in this country, how many guns would be in the hands of bad guys???
In case you’re too dumb to figure it out, the answers is ZERO!
As long as there are guns available to even ONE person the possibility is there for there to be one shooter.
Go ahead now, give me your pro-gun numbskull argument about the 2nd Amendment!!! LoL
SS
This is a difficult concept to conprehend if you h... (show quote)


Ok, SS. Explain to us how all the firearms in the U.S. will be seized by ATF, and explain how you will convince criminals to turn theirs in. Explain how you will stop firearms from being brought in from Mexico and Canada. Explain how long this seizure will take, who will be tasked with seizing firearms, and what the cost to our economy be. Also, explain how you can guarantee, in writing, how no one will ever get or obtain a firearm again.

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Feb 28, 2018 00:06:24   #
cwp3420
 
SharpShooter wrote:
When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns. Then, one by one, you put them in prison if they keep being criminals.
You pass Legislation to outlaw guns.
It will take a shift in what the way the Supreme Court views the Second Amendment! How many more mass shootings do you think it will take for the republicans to start to disagree with the NRA?
Already there is NO chance EVER that ordinary citizens will need to assemble to defend this country. That will be anarchy at its finest.
Already there is NOT one citizen that needs a gun to protect the back forty against wild Indians. They’ve already been killed.
Already there is not ONE citizen that needs to hunt for food. There’s a 7/11 on every corner.
Already you only need a gun to defend your castle if the guy breaking in has a gun too.
The role of the gun in the Wild West is a thing of the past.
“A well regulated militia”, is subject to interpretation and interpreted it will be.
How many more children and adults have to die before the Supreme Court reinterprets that clause and declares your guns illegal? Maybe when the kids from Florida have 5 justices sitting on the Supreme Court but it’s coming. Not today and maybe not tomorrow but maybe the day after that, but it IS coming.
I don’t expect the old burned out bulb in your old head to ever turn on, but old woman, we’re into the age of LED’s and many bulbs will burn bright, maybe after you and I are DEAD!!! History will progress without us.
The big question is just whether you were on the sidelines or helped usher in the newer generations!!!
SS
When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have gun... (show quote)


So, if you are the victim of a home invasion by two or three people, you say you don’t need a firearm. What magic potion do you use in case that happens to you? Of course, I understand you’re a janitor and probably don’t have anything to defend, but play along and humor us with your moronic response.

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Feb 28, 2018 00:25:23   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
cwp3420 wrote:
There are plenty of families in America struggling financially, and who have a firearm to protect their families. For many, spending money on a safe is not in their budget. Why should they be penalized for what a criminal may do?


The safe is the insurance you fool!
There are plenty of people struggling and need the car to get to work but just can’t afford the insurances, it’s just not in their budget.
Why should they be penalized for what another driver might do?
Are you F*CKING serious?!?!?
Let’s make excuses for EVERY loser!!!
You are gun long and brain short!!! LoL
SS

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Feb 28, 2018 00:28:51   #
Wellhiem Loc: Sunny England.
 
cwp3420 wrote:
So basically you want to put all of this on responsible gun owners and nothing on criminals and gang bangers. While we’re at it, let’s ban all video games, because many of them glorify violence. Let’s ban knives. People get stabbed. Likewise, liquor, as people die from it. Boating? Of course. People drown. Aviation? Banned. People die in aircraft accidents. This could go on and on. After all, think of the children you could save by banning everything.


What do you mean by putting it all on responsible gun owners?
If you mean I'm trying to blame them, you should reread the post.

cwp3420 wrote:
Show me any evidence that kids are encouraged to bring semi-automatic rifles to show and tell, and list the schools that allow it. Limey moron.

Once again try reading the post. I said we don't encourage kids to take semi-automatic rifles to show and tell.

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Feb 28, 2018 01:51:34   #
cwp3420
 
SharpShooter wrote:
The safe is the insurance you fool!
There are plenty of people struggling and need the car to get to work but just can’t afford the insurances, it’s just not in their budget.
Why should they be penalized for what another driver might do?
Are you F*CKING serious?!?!?
Let’s make excuses for EVERY loser!!!
You are gun long and brain short!!! LoL
SS


You bring shame to every graduate of Berkeley with your idiotic reasoning. Why should law abiding gun owners be penalized for what another firearm owner might do? And you still haven’t answered my question about how you propose to get rid of all the guns. I know for certain you can’t do that. You have no idea about any of this, so save yourself the embarrassment of trying to speak to something you don’t understand, moron.

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Feb 28, 2018 03:47:43   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
cwp3420 wrote:
You bring shame to every graduate of Berkeley with your idiotic reasoning. Why should law abiding gun owners be penalized for what another firearm owner might do? And you still haven’t answered my question about how you propose to get rid of all the guns. I know for certain you can’t do that. You have no idea about any of this, so save yourself the embarrassment of trying to speak to something you don’t understand, moron.


If anybody says anything with a comprehension above a 3rd grader it just goes in one of your ears, ricochets around your small empty skull and then out your ASS, so why bother?!?!
The LAST thing I need to be worried about is a little hermaphrodeedee like you STONER!!! LoL
SS

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Feb 28, 2018 03:52:04   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
Sjfh wrote:
You could sell that script to Lifetime.


That's the most intelligent thing you've ever said here, so you can just imagine how STUPID everything else you've ever said is!!!
SS

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Feb 28, 2018 05:13:40   #
Twardlow Loc: Arkansas
 
cwp3420 wrote:
Always wishy-washy in your responses. Is there anything that you definitively believe in?


Thom knows something you don’t understand...Life Is Wishy-Washy.

It is a constant “On The Other Hand.”

There is very little black or white, but innumerable shades of gray.

The better you understand the reality around you, the more you understand that everything has its good points matched by its bad points, and that the value of anything is measured by its good points counted against its bad points, and final judgement of value is almost always a compromise.

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Feb 28, 2018 05:15:51   #
Sjfh
 
cwp3420 wrote:
There are plenty of families in America struggling financially, and who have a firearm to protect their families. For many, spending money on a safe is not in their budget. Why should they be penalized for what a criminal may do?


I didn’t say they should be penalized.

We had guns in our home without a safe. When our kids were teens, we got a “cheap” safe....not to keep them from our kids (they were taught gun safety very early because we had them in the house....they were also taught internet safety, which was our parental controls). The safe was to keep their friends away, just in case.

As we bought more, including “assault” rifles, we bought a heavy, expensive, proper safe to safeguard the weapons from falling into the wrong hands in the unlikely event we were burglarized. I’d have preferred a Caribbean vacation, but the safe was the responsible choice.

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Feb 28, 2018 05:42:36   #
Twardlow Loc: Arkansas
 
cwp3420 wrote:
So basically you want to put all of this on responsible gun owners and nothing on criminals and gang bangers. While we’re at it, let’s ban all video games, because many of them glorify violence. Let’s ban knives. People get stabbed. Likewise, liquor, as people die from it. Boating? Of course. People drown. Aviation? Banned. People die in aircraft accidents. This could go on and on. After all, think of the children you could save by banning everything.


I answered one of your posts and ended this way: “The better you understand the reality around you, the more you understand that everything has its good points matched by its bad points, and that the value of anything is measured by its good points counted against its bad points, and final judgement of value is almost always a compromise.”

So, banning video games as you suggest is a good idea in my book. They teach an irresponsible violence and have no constructive value as far as I’m concerned.

Water sports, boating but also swimming, are dangerous, but have practical as well as recreational value, so we try to control them, but banning them is probably impossible. Same situation with aviation, except its practical issues are more important than the water sports—airlines and national defense for example.

We can’t ban knives for the same reason we can’t ban weed or liquor—you can always make or find your own, But knives have good points and bad points (no intended pun) so we try to control them as much as we can.

We’ll never ban guns—there are (I think) 300 million of them in existence in this country, and they have a long life. They also have practical uses that we need—national defense again and law enforcement, for example. Now they have Supreme Court protection, so we’ll continue to use them, and try to control or lessen the bad points.

Now you see, or begin to I hope, life is complex, judgements have to be made, and accommodations made where necessary.

Cars and trucks have both good points and bad points, as do libraries; ditto religion. The same is true of antibiotics and glass, fire and forrests, rivers and lakes, highways and sidewalks, sugar and salt. Beefsteaks and garlic.

We tried to eliminate smallpox because it had no redeeming qualities and was very dangerous. But there is always the fear and probably the fact that countries maintain samples that might be useful in germ warfare. In other words, there might be good in some people’s eyes even in smallpox.

See how complex life can be?

[And Thom already knew that, didn’t he?]

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Feb 28, 2018 06:33:41   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
Twardlow wrote:
You have no understanding of the meaning of the word. DJT is the Fascist.


Grow up clueless one.

Hitler was a far left nut job as was Mussolini.

The NAZI party platform, minus the genocide, was essentially identical to the DNC platform of today. Hitler took his genocidal racist ideas from Marx and Engels.

Hitler and Mussolini hated the Russian international socialism solely because they weren't barking at the Moon loud enough.

The democratic goading FDR was very much Hitler lite and placed a Klansman on the SCOTUS while having 200K citizens placed in camps solely because of their skin color.

You have no clue as to the warped ideology that you support other than what the modern day VOLKISCHER BEOBACHTERS tell you.

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