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Feb 27, 2018 16:39:46   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
LWW wrote:
You are literally too stupid to talk on this topic.


Like I said, if your IQ is low, you will not grasp it.
Congrats, you just proved me right!!!
SS

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Feb 27, 2018 16:42:50   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
SharpShooter wrote:
Like I said, if your IQ is low, you will not grasp it.
Congrats, you just proved me right!!!
SS



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Feb 27, 2018 19:17:17   #
Sjfh
 
SharpShooter wrote:
This is a difficult concept to conprehend if you have a low IQ.
So I’ll start with a VERY easy question.....
If ZERO guns where available to the people in this country, how many guns would be in the hands of bad guys???
In case you’re too dumb to figure it out, the answers is ZERO!
As long as there are guns available to even ONE person the possibility is there for there to be one shooter.
Go ahead now, give me your pro-gun numbskull argument about the 2nd Amendment!!! LoL
SS
This is a difficult concept to conprehend if you h... (show quote)


I want to know how you’re going to get this country to a count of zero guns (the original question)... Then I’ll answer your question.

Go!

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Feb 27, 2018 20:25:06   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
SharpShooter wrote:
Like I said, if your IQ is low, you will not grasp it.
Congrats, you just proved me right!!!
SS


I apologize for stooping to your level earlier, but it is so frustrating to listen to folks with no clue act as if the were actually learned on the topic.

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Feb 27, 2018 20:26:07   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
thom w wrote:


Dimmer down Tom Tom, the dumb masses have already been conditioned by public education to agree with you,

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Feb 27, 2018 20:28:32   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
Sjfh wrote:
I want to know how you’re going to get this country to a count of zero guns (the original question)... Then I’ll answer your question.

Go!


When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns. Then, one by one, you put them in prison if they keep being criminals.
You pass Legislation to outlaw guns.
It will take a shift in what the way the Supreme Court views the Second Amendment! How many more mass shootings do you think it will take for the republicans to start to disagree with the NRA?
Already there is NO chance EVER that ordinary citizens will need to assemble to defend this country. That will be anarchy at its finest.
Already there is NOT one citizen that needs a gun to protect the back forty against wild Indians. They’ve already been killed.
Already there is not ONE citizen that needs to hunt for food. There’s a 7/11 on every corner.
Already you only need a gun to defend your castle if the guy breaking in has a gun too.
The role of the gun in the Wild West is a thing of the past.
“A well regulated militia”, is subject to interpretation and interpreted it will be.
How many more children and adults have to die before the Supreme Court reinterprets that clause and declares your guns illegal? Maybe when the kids from Florida have 5 justices sitting on the Supreme Court but it’s coming. Not today and maybe not tomorrow but maybe the day after that, but it IS coming.
I don’t expect the old burned out bulb in your old head to ever turn on, but old woman, we’re into the age of LED’s and many bulbs will burn bright, maybe after you and I are DEAD!!! History will progress without us.
The big question is just whether you were on the sidelines or helped usher in the newer generations!!!
SS

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Feb 27, 2018 20:31:09   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
SharpShooter wrote:
This is a difficult concept to conprehend if you have a low IQ.
So I’ll start with a VERY easy question.....
If ZERO guns where available to the people in this country, how many guns would be in the hands of bad guys???
In case you’re too dumb to figure it out, the answers is ZERO!
As long as there are guns available to even ONE person the possibility is there for there to be one shooter.
Go ahead now, give me your pro-gun numbskull argument about the 2nd Amendment!!! LoL
SS
This is a difficult concept to conprehend if you h... (show quote)


It doesn't matter if zero gubns existed, they do exist.

Furthermore, more people are murdered with knives than rifles, so if knives didn't exist ... ?

And, yes, I know that spoon fed individuals lacking all intellectual curiosity will never question Rachel and friends.


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Feb 27, 2018 20:33:26   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
SharpShooter wrote:
When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns. Then, one by one, you put them in prison if they keep being criminals.
You pass Legislation to outlaw guns.
It will take a shift in what the way the Supreme Court views the Second Amendment! How many more mass shootings do you think it will take for the republicans to start to disagree with the NRA?
Already there is NO chance EVER that ordinary citizens will need to assemble to defend this country. That will be anarchy at its finest.
Already there is NOT one citizen that needs a gun to protect the back forty against wild Indians. They’ve already been killed.
Already there is not ONE citizen that needs to hunt for food. There’s a 7/11 on every corner.
Already you only need a gun to defend your castle if the guy breaking in has a gun too.
The role of the gun in the Wild West is a thing of the past.
“A well regulated militia”, is subject to interpretation and interpreted it will be.
How many more children and adults have to die before the Supreme Court reinterprets that clause and declares your guns illegal? Maybe when the kids from Florida have 5 justices sitting on the Supreme Court but it’s coming. Not today and maybe not tomorrow but maybe the day after that, but it IS coming.
I don’t expect the old burned out bulb in your old head to ever turn on, but old woman, we’re into the age of LED’s and many bulbs will burn bright, maybe after you and I are DEAD!!! History will progress without us.
The big question is just whether you were on the sidelines or helped usher in the newer generations!!!
SS
When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have gun... (show quote)


Much to your chagrin it is fascists such as yourself who caused the election of Donald John Trump.

Well done.

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Feb 27, 2018 22:46:19   #
Sjfh
 
SharpShooter wrote:
When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns. Then, one by one, you put them in prison if they keep being criminals.
You pass Legislation to outlaw guns.
It will take a shift in what the way the Supreme Court views the Second Amendment! How many more mass shootings do you think it will take for the republicans to start to disagree with the NRA?
Already there is NO chance EVER that ordinary citizens will need to assemble to defend this country. That will be anarchy at its finest.
Already there is NOT one citizen that needs a gun to protect the back forty against wild Indians. They’ve already been killed.
Already there is not ONE citizen that needs to hunt for food. There’s a 7/11 on every corner.
Already you only need a gun to defend your castle if the guy breaking in has a gun too.
The role of the gun in the Wild West is a thing of the past.
“A well regulated militia”, is subject to interpretation and interpreted it will be.
How many more children and adults have to die before the Supreme Court reinterprets that clause and declares your guns illegal? Maybe when the kids from Florida have 5 justices sitting on the Supreme Court but it’s coming. Not today and maybe not tomorrow but maybe the day after that, but it IS coming.
I don’t expect the old burned out bulb in your old head to ever turn on, but old woman, we’re into the age of LED’s and many bulbs will burn bright, maybe after you and I are DEAD!!! History will progress without us.
The big question is just whether you were on the sidelines or helped usher in the newer generations!!!
SS
When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have gun... (show quote)


You could sell that script to Lifetime.

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Feb 27, 2018 23:15:15   #
Twardlow Loc: Arkansas
 
LWW wrote:
Much to your chagrin it is fascists such as yourself who caused the election of Donald John Trump.

Well done.


You have no understanding of the meaning of the word. DJT is the Fascist.

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Feb 27, 2018 23:34:47   #
cwp3420
 
Sjfh wrote:
Actually, not having one does make the owner irresponsible.


There are plenty of families in America struggling financially, and who have a firearm to protect their families. For many, spending money on a safe is not in their budget. Why should they be penalized for what a criminal may do?

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Feb 27, 2018 23:36:36   #
cwp3420
 
thom w wrote:
There will be no really good answers as long as the feds stop any government sponsored research on the subject.
I'm not suggesting research on the effects of the gun laws as they stand, though I wouldn't be opposed to it. There should be a study on school massacres and how to throttle them back. There might also be a study on how to cut down on gun violence in this country and how to either lower it or at least have fewer innocent victims. The NRA shouldn't be part of it and gun manufacturers shouldn't be part of it. Probably gun dealers as well, but gun owners should be welcome, their input is valuable, or at least may be.
There will be no really good answers as long as th... (show quote)


Always wishy-washy in your responses. Is there anything that you definitively believe in?

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Feb 27, 2018 23:42:20   #
cwp3420
 
Wellhiem wrote:
It's not really a case of punishing anyone. Some people may be perfectly capable of driving through a town at 150MPH. But, a lot of people aren't so the law prohibits it for all. The vast majority of gun owners may be perfectly responsible, But there doesn't seem to be any way of telling who is or isn't before an event. We seem to be stuck in a sort of all or nothing attitude. What's needed is some form of middle ground between guns for all and a blanket ban.

My suggestions would be:
Compulsory training and testing before being issued with a license.
Continued training on a regular basis, (I don't know what frequency that should be).
Re-testing every five years
Severe penalties for anyone selling a gun to someone who doesn't have a license with the onus being on the seller to ensure that the gun is registered in the new owners name before handing it over.
Accountability for every round of ammunition purchased.
Gun theft to be treated as a serious crime, (not only in terms of sentencing, but also the effort put into recovering them).
Practice shooting to be restricted to registered firing ranges, (this would aid accoutability of amunition).
Age restriction, (probably 21 but I don't know).

None of the above could be achieved over night, so there would need to be period between announcing these rules and enforcing them in order to give people the oportunity to comply.
There also needs to be some sort of attitude change. In most other countries, if you have a child who's not fitting in well at school, has become something of a recluse with no friends, and seems to be bullied, we tend to encourage extracaricular activities where they can meet new people and make friends. We don't try to cheer them up by buying them a semmi-automatic rifle and encouraging them to take it to their next show and tell.
It's not really a case of punishing anyone. Some p... (show quote)


So basically you want to put all of this on responsible gun owners and nothing on criminals and gang bangers. While we’re at it, let’s ban all video games, because many of them glorify violence. Let’s ban knives. People get stabbed. Likewise, liquor, as people die from it. Boating? Of course. People drown. Aviation? Banned. People die in aircraft accidents. This could go on and on. After all, think of the children you could save by banning everything.

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Feb 27, 2018 23:44:36   #
cwp3420
 
Wellhiem wrote:
It's not really a case of punishing anyone. Some people may be perfectly capable of driving through a town at 150MPH. But, a lot of people aren't so the law prohibits it for all. The vast majority of gun owners may be perfectly responsible, But there doesn't seem to be any way of telling who is or isn't before an event. We seem to be stuck in a sort of all or nothing attitude. What's needed is some form of middle ground between guns for all and a blanket ban.

My suggestions would be:
Compulsory training and testing before being issued with a license.
Continued training on a regular basis, (I don't know what frequency that should be).
Re-testing every five years
Severe penalties for anyone selling a gun to someone who doesn't have a license with the onus being on the seller to ensure that the gun is registered in the new owners name before handing it over.
Accountability for every round of ammunition purchased.
Gun theft to be treated as a serious crime, (not only in terms of sentencing, but also the effort put into recovering them).
Practice shooting to be restricted to registered firing ranges, (this would aid accoutability of amunition).
Age restriction, (probably 21 but I don't know).

None of the above could be achieved over night, so there would need to be period between announcing these rules and enforcing them in order to give people the oportunity to comply.
There also needs to be some sort of attitude change. In most other countries, if you have a child who's not fitting in well at school, has become something of a recluse with no friends, and seems to be bullied, we tend to encourage extracaricular activities where they can meet new people and make friends. We don't try to cheer them up by buying them a semmi-automatic rifle and encouraging them to take it to their next show and tell.
It's not really a case of punishing anyone. Some p... (show quote)


Show me any evidence that kids are encouraged to bring semi-automatic rifles to show and tell, and list the schools that allow it. Limey moron.

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Feb 27, 2018 23:49:13   #
cwp3420
 
thom w wrote:
For one requiring you to keep track of any guns you purchase unless they are legally transferred to an eligible buyer. I would like to see a heavy fine for allowing your gun to be stolen and if it happens too often you should be determined to not be a responsible gun owner. Of course there will have to be some allowable exceptions. Laws that place further restrictions might be considered but only if research indicates they will cause more good than the inconvenience. The first thing that needs done is serious research. I want fewer gun deaths. I also don't like laws based on emotion, even though that is how most laws get passed.
For one requiring you to keep track of any guns yo... (show quote)


First of all, are the students in Florida being driven by their emotions? If so, discount everything they say. Second, and I have asked you this before, but you didn’t answer, is how do you think responsible gun owners should store their firearms where they could NEVER be stolen? Enlighten us on this point. There are firearms stolen all the time which are secured in heavy duty safes. So, Thommie, tell us how you can guarantee no one is ever able to steal firearms.

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