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Oct 23, 2017 03:04:50 #
le boecere wrote:
Greg, this is what is so difficult for rookies lik... (show quote)
Micro 4/3 is not the equal of APS-C. It is slightly inferior. Actually, APS-C is right in the middle between full frame and Micro 4/3 as far as image quality. All are quite good... better than most 35mm films if you know what you are doing!
Oct 23, 2017 03:28:53 #
le boecere wrote:
Greg, this is what is so difficult for rookies lik... (show quote)
With respect, I think you need to read wingpilots post again. The facts he mentions are qualified by the words he uses next in each case. Many died-in-the-wool APS-C fanatics will unfortunately tell you that there are major differences between aps-c and M43. Yes - there are differences - which become noticeable if they ever invest in a wall-sized print - which none of them do. To do that you would use full frame, because aps-c would not be up to the job either!
Oct 23, 2017 05:15:57 #
I also am 73. The answer for us might be a Minox 35ML. It is tiny and lighter than a flip phone. The lens is legendary: sharp and contrasty. It's film, but is full-frame 35mm. If you like to work discreet
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Oct 23, 2017 05:18:45 #
...discreetly, you'll find that people seldom notice the tiny thing and dismiss it when they do.
Oct 23, 2017 05:45:45 #
berchman
Loc: South Central PA
Almost 80, I had my grip strength tested recently in connection with a broken neck and was told it scored like a guy in his mid thirties. So I didn’t get a Fuji X-T2 because I was too weak to carry my Nikon D800. I got it because I could comfortably hold it in my hand all day long with its 18-135 lens, something I could not do with the Nikon. When walking around a city this is a real advantage.
Oct 23, 2017 10:19:52 #
le boecere wrote:
From what I can see and read, there is a difference in each of the sensor sizes and their corresponding IQ, but, (and except) the only two that are "equal" are the M43 and the APS-C.
_Van
From what I can see and read, there is a difference in each of the sensor sizes and their corresponding IQ, but, (and except) the only two that are "equal" are the M43 and the APS-C.
_Van
They are equal only in the eyes of the 4/3 aficianados! In the world of physics larger sensors trump smaller sensors.
Oct 23, 2017 10:27:43 #
AFPhoto wrote:
Sorry but I have to disagree with your assessment. I have a Canon 5d my iii and an Olympus em1 mk II and I have canvas prints 24 by 30 hanging in my house and I would challenge you to tell which came from which camera. Other than the low light performance of the Canon I really don’t see much difference.
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Oct 23, 2017 11:29:14 #
1950Dan
Loc: Lockwood, Nevada
Love my Canon 7d but it hurts to carry all day so I got a used Oly OM-D M10 mkII from eBay. M4/3 is a good format and the dials and buttons on the Olympus are easier to navigate than the big DSLR's!
Oct 23, 2017 11:31:42 #
I know what you mean about carrying too much weight. I had a Nikon FF for several years with four lenses. I take primarily a landscape photographer and the hiking, due the weight factor, became difficult. I took a workshop in Moab and wouldn't have made one hike if the workshop leaders hadn't carried my camera bag. I now am the proud owner of the Fuji XT2 and have three lenses. The total weight of my new Fuji kit is considerable lighter than my Nikon kit and each time that I am on an extended hike I appreciate my Fuji even more. Finally, while I loved my Nikon FF and lenses I have having a ball with my Fuji XT2 and my photography has not suffered one iota and the fun factor has been tripled.
Oct 23, 2017 11:32:44 #
CatMarley wrote:
They are equal only in the eyes of the 4/3 aficianados! In the world of physics larger sensors trump smaller sensors.
True, but in the real world the differences are not noticeable until you get to a very, very, large print.
Oct 23, 2017 12:08:56 #
moonhawk wrote:
True, but in the real world the differences are not noticeable until you get to a very, very, large print.
It is really easy to see the differences between cameras if you go to http://www.dpreview.com and check out the test reports performed in conjunction with dxomark.com. There is an interactive tool there that allows you to "pixel peep" the same test target:
https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/panasonic-lumix-dc-gh5/9
https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/fujifilm-x-t2/6
https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/olympus-om-d-e-m1-mark-ii/8
https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sony-alpha-a6500/9
I don't know about you folks, but the image quality differences I see among these cameras are small. The conclusion I came to a long time ago is that it comes down to the FEATURE SET that you need, that you can live with, that appeals most to you when you use the camera.
It's sort of like cars... Any automobile will get you from point A to point B. HOW you want to experience the trip is a matter of choice, budget, need, and other personal factors. Pickup truck? Prius? Corvette? Lincoln? Smart Car?
Linux, Macs, and Windows can all run on essentially the same (Mac) computer hardware. The question is, which do you need? Which do you prefer, if you know more than one? Which one is least intrusive in your use of the computer? (Don't answer that... HOW you want to experience the computer is a matter of choice, budget, need, and other personal factors.)
My point is that the cameras linked above are all really good now! Within reason, you can quit worrying about performance at the margins, and concentrate on things like portability, versatility, ergonomics, menus, lens availability and compatibility, AND compatibility with the way you work. What fits your hand best? What fits your needs best? What is fun to use, and satisfies you with the kind of images you (will) want to make?
Knowing the answers requires a bit of study...
Oct 23, 2017 12:15:10 #
CatMarley wrote:
They are equal only in the eyes of the 4/3 aficianados! In the world of physics larger sensors trump smaller sensors.
Well, Cat, we have M43 aficianados and APS-C fanatics. When making judgements as to performance of those two formats, M43 aficianados will almost always have the advantage, simply because most of them will have first used APS-C before moving on to M43, whereas most APS-C fanatics have only the experience of reading what other APS-C fanatics have to say, based on a misplaced loyalty to their APS-C equipment.
Many APS-C fanatics will say that, at up to A3, or even A2, you cannot tell the difference between APS-C and FF. They are probably correct, but they will not accept the same argument when applied to M43 and APS-C.
The second sentence of your posted statement is correct - it merely needs sensibly qualifying to have sensible meaning. The first sentence is rubbish.
Oct 23, 2017 13:12:52 #
davyboy
Loc: Anoka Mn.
CatMarley wrote:
They are equal only in the eyes of the 4/3 aficianados! In the world of physics larger sensors trump smaller sensors.
Actually if you compare on the charts the canon crop sensor is very slightly larger than m4/3 and the Nikon sensor slightly larger then the canon not much significant difference in size or photo quality
Oct 23, 2017 13:49:08 #
Gregger wrote:
I just purchased the Sony RX10 III three weeks ago and really enjoy it. It is close to 3 pounds, but I find the image stabilization to be fantastic. My hands shake a bit holding it for several minutes and the photo still comes out perfect. Of course this is my personal opinion. This camera was recommended to me by a UHH member.
Oct 23, 2017 13:52:01 #
CatMarley wrote:
They are equal only in the eyes of the 4/3 aficianados! In the world of physics larger sensors trump smaller sensors.
There are no better objective comparisons between these 2 cameras.
As it was pointed out, in real life you can’t tell the difference.
https://mirrorlesscomparison.com/fujifilm-vs-olympus/omd-em1-mark-ii-vs-fuji-xt2/
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