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Oct 22, 2017 19:57:05   #
mffox Loc: Avon, CT
 
Adicus: I decided to "lighten the load" at age 76 after lugging a backpack full of gear through Italy on a 3-week tour. I chose Olympus EM-10, and haven't regretted it. Yesterday I went on an all-day shoot carrying the EM-10 with a Tamron 18-150mm lens, and it was all I needed. Welcome to the club!!

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Oct 22, 2017 20:07:56   #
JimH123 Loc: Morgan Hill, CA
 
wdross wrote:
Are the Sony and Fujinon image stabilized?


All the Sony E-mount cameras will work with image stabilized (OSS) lens. Some models have in body stabilization. For instance, the A6000 and A6300 have no in body stabilization. But the A6500 does have in body stabilization. As for the full frame models, the older models did not have in body image stabilization. But I believe all the more current models have it.

I have no experience with Fujinon.

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Oct 22, 2017 21:46:16   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
JimH123 wrote:
All the Sony E-mount cameras will work with image stabilized (OSS) lens. Some models have in body stabilization. For instance, the A6000 and A6300 have no in body stabilization. But the A6500 does have in body stabilization. As for the full frame models, the older models did not have in body image stabilization. But I believe all the more current models have it.

I have no experience with Fujinon.


Fuji bodies are not stabilized. Some of their lenses are though.

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Oct 22, 2017 22:00:28   #
bw79st Loc: New York City
 
adm wrote:
For those of you considering Olympus, do not overlook the Pen series. It is even smaller and lighter than the OM series. Some guys may take issue with the fact that this series is primarily marketed to women but if you stick with black finish, you will be okay. It is also less expensive and more modular than the OM series. I was able to pick up a new Pen E-PL 7 with kit zoom for $400 last year shortly after this model was phased out. It does not come standard with an electronic viewfinder but you can purchase one as an accessory. I have just now ordered an EVF because I became frustrated with glare under some shooting conditions with bright sun (more of a problem here in New Mexico than in some places) but you can get by without one. This is not meant as a criticism of the OM series but I am just pointing out that there is another option.
For those of you considering Olympus, do not overl... (show quote)


I like the E-PL7 also and have been carrying it around in my pocket with a 14-42mm EZ lens. Unfortunately a couple of weeks a go one arm of the swing out LCD screen became detached from the body. I'll see if they can fix it at Photoplus this week.

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Oct 22, 2017 22:04:09   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
minniev wrote:
Uh, maybe not exactly true, unless you really do mean prints that cover an entire wall (I haven't tried that yet).

I've gotten a lot of reasonably large prints from my Oly EM1, both the vi and vii. Fifteen of them are hanging in a gallery show right now. Most range from 16x20 to 24x36, many of them are cropped from the original captures, and they have plenty of detail. Without that detail I probably wouldn't have won the endowment that's supporting my work on my current project.


While it is for static subjects only for now, the hi res feature in your camera in the EM1 mark2 produces 80mp files. So if this guy is into printing very large, guess who will get better results? 24mp or 80mp?

As an FYI, Tony Northrup uses an EM1 mark2 camera for landscape photography. What does that say about that camera? He has all the latest FF gear and he prefers the files out of the EM1.

While I don’t have specific names right now, some product photographers have also been moving from Medium Format to the EM5 mark2 and now to the EM1 mark2.

Of course none of this will improve my snapshots or my skills, but it is always better to know the truth than letting some fruitcake spread fake info.

We are all free to use what ever we prefer, after all we are paying for our gear so just enjoy what each of us like and let other people enjoy their preferences.

Congratulations on your showing!!!

Have you posted any of this photos here?

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Oct 22, 2017 22:24:52   #
minniev Loc: MIssissippi
 
tdekany wrote:
While it is for static subjects only for now, the hi res feature in your camera in the EM1 mark2 produces 80mp files. So if this guy is into printing very large, guess who will get better results? 24mp or 80mp?

As an FYI, Tony Northrup uses an EM1 mark2 camera for landscape photography. What does that say about that camera? He has all the latest FF gear and he prefers the files out of the EM1.

While I don’t have specific names right now, some product photographers have also been moving from Medium Format to the EM5 mark2 and now to the EM1 mark2.

Of course none of this will improve my snapshots or my skills, but it is always better to know the truth than letting some fruitcake spread fake info.

We are all free to use what ever we prefer, after all we are paying for our gear so just enjoy what each of us like and let other people enjoy their preferences.

Congratulations on your showing!!!

Have you posted any of this photos here?
While it is for static subjects only for now, the ... (show quote)


It was the misleading info that bothered me, misinformation I'd heard before, seen it so repeatedly on UHH that it actually had me terrified when I began preparing my files for print. All that anxiety was for nothing, they came out fine. Not meaning to hijack but just a brief answer, yes, I've posted quite a few of my dam bird pictures on FYC, probably half the exhibit (which is 100% dam birds)

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Oct 22, 2017 22:29:55   #
AndyGarcia
 
Adicus wrote:
I just turned 73 today and as you may have read I have just returned from a 5 week holiday and found this time that carrying a lot of kit around became a bit much. I am now thinking seriously about the possibility of going mirrorless to lighten the load. I reallise that this has probably been hashed over but wonder what the latest on mirrorless is.


Happy Birthday! I currently have a Fuji XE2 and an XT1 which arrives this weekend. I have been a Nikon shooter all my life but the weight issue is a challenge now. Additionally IQ at modest ISO - 800 and upwards shows massive noise in comparison with my XE2.

A good friend went from D600 to Olympus and loves the system and particularly the choice of lenses available and the light weight.

Depending on your budget I'd go for the XT2. If your budget is tight you can pick up used XT1s at good prices. I love Fuji colours, IQ and high ISO speed capability.

Good luck with your you research and your final choice.

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Oct 22, 2017 23:06:08   #
mcveed Loc: Kelowna, British Columbia (between trips)
 
A year ago I made the final switch from Nikon DSLR to Olympus M43 mirrorless and I'm glad I did. My main consideration was the size and weight of the carry-on I needed to get all of my gear safely to the destination, particularly on regional airlines which often have lower limits than international airlines. My gear includes two Olympus EM-1 MkII bodies, 7-14mm f2.8, 12-100mm f4, 40-150mm f2.8 and Panasonic 100-400 f4-6.3 lenses, an Olympus 1.4 TC, a macbook laptop, and misc bits and pieces like filters and cleaning equipment. This all fits in a roller case that is 17.5" x 13.5: x 7.5" and weighs 25 pounds. It will fit in the overhead storage or under the seat of a Q-400 aircraft which is very common with regional airlines. After three overseas trip with this kit I wouldn't go back to full frame if you bought me all new Nikons and paid me to take them.

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Oct 22, 2017 23:14:39   #
mcveed Loc: Kelowna, British Columbia (between trips)
 
Reinaldokool wrote:
The only games in town are Fuji and Sony.

A=>No one who is serious should consider anything less than an aps-c sensor. 4/3 is half the size and, while okay for posting on the web, can't do the job for wall size prints.
B=>Both Nikon and Canon are still not serious about MILC. Canon is momentarilly ahead with the M5 but it is not nearly in the same class as Fuji or Sony. Nikon promises to leapfrog Canon, but I've heard that from both Canon and Nikon. They are both working on 50+- megapixel sensors, but who knows when that will become real, especially in a decent price range.
C=>Fuji brings the level of technology that has made them the primary source for optical equipment for the Japanese military and civilian government. Sony has the fastest focus, Eye-AF, Face recognition follow-focus and 11fps. Their focus capability shoots down everything else.
D=>Sony has the best video on the market in prosumer level cameras. If you are not into video, you can just ignore that.
The only games in town are Fuji and Sony. br br ... (show quote)


Nonsense!

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Oct 22, 2017 23:20:31   #
mcveed Loc: Kelowna, British Columbia (between trips)
 
I have noticed that a number of people recommend Fuji mirrorless cameras. The one thing to keep in mind when considering a Fuji is the fact that Fuji uses an X-TRANs colour filter which is different from the Bayer filter used in other digital cameras. The X-TRANS filter affords some advantages but it is not compatible with the software program DXO Optics Pro 11. I use this program as a raw converter and for initial adjustment, particularly noise reduction, before storing in Lightroom for further editing. A Fuji would force me to change my workflow, so I will stay with Olympus.

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Oct 22, 2017 23:24:17   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
mcveed wrote:
I have noticed that a number of people recommend Fuji mirrorless cameras. The one thing to keep in mind when considering a Fuji is the fact that Fuji uses an X-TRANs colour filter which is different from the Bayer filter used in other digital cameras. The X-TRANS filter affords some advantages but it is not compatible with the software program DXO Optics Pro 11. I use this program as a raw converter and for initial adjustment, particularly noise reduction, before storing in Lightroom for further editing. A Fuji would force me to change my workflow, so I will stay with Olympus.
I have noticed that a number of people recommend F... (show quote)


That is a good point.

Another thing to think about is the availability of lenses. A good friend sold all his Canon gear bought into Fuji. THEN he realized that Fuji did not have the lens selection that would allow him to do the things he craved. So now he is buying all new Canon gear. He won't make that mistake again.

Just saying before switching formats, look at the lenses that are available for that format.

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Oct 23, 2017 00:02:48   #
Adicus Loc: New Zealand
 
It all sounds like a quagmire changing to something different so I am going to just cut down on the volume of what I am carrying on trips . Thanks for all your input

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Oct 23, 2017 00:20:35   #
mcveed Loc: Kelowna, British Columbia (between trips)
 
Adicus wrote:
It all sounds like a quagmire changing to something different so I am going to just cut down on the volume of what I am carrying on trips . Thanks for all your input

Sometimes you can reduce the total volume/weight by selecting zooms in place of primes, or zooms with greater focal range.

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Oct 23, 2017 00:49:03   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
Adicus wrote:
It all sounds like a quagmire changing to something different so I am going to just cut down on the volume of what I am carrying on trips . Thanks for all your input


It's definitely a quagmire but if you put the work into it then it can pay off big time. Technology is always moving forward. There are very good quality systems available now that are smaller and lighter, and cheaper, than what you now have.

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Oct 23, 2017 02:51:37   #
le boecere
 
Wingpilot wrote:
The difference between a micro 4/3 camera and an APSC sensor camera is the size of the sensor. The M4/3 is smaller than the APSC sensor. Both cameras are mirrorless cameras. You might mistake an Olympus camera for a DSLR, but it Just looks like a DSLR. No mirror. Image quality of both sizes are equal, IMO, and the smaller sensor only matters if you try to make prints the size of your living room wall. Both the M43 and APSC sensors are smaller than a full frame, which is the same size as the 35mm film format. Full frame gives better background blurring, or bokeh, and has better low light capatiblity because the pixels are larger, given the same number as in, say, an APSC sensor, so they gather more light. A FF sensor may have more dynamic range. The build quality of all these cameras is fine.
The difference between a micro 4/3 camera and an A... (show quote)


Greg, this is what is so difficult for rookies like me (ok, so maybe I'm the only one) to understand about sensor sizes (and, I've read it from many other contributors, as well):

"Image quality of both sizes (M43 and APS-C) are equal,..."

Yet, "full frame" is apparently vastly superior (IQ) to APS-C.

And, M43 is apparently VASTLY superior (IQ) to any smaller sensor.

From what I can see and read, there is a difference in each of the sensor sizes and their corresponding IQ, but, (and except) the only two that are "equal" are the M43 and the APS-C.

It seems to be an irrefutable fact, especially in the minds of M43 aficionados, but the physics of this phenomenon is never really explained. What makes the magic?

_Van

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