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Jul 1, 2017 14:25:30   #
Sjfh
 
SharpShooter wrote:
So your saying that because it's law people should not be worried about Trampdeath and just go to emergency rooms and get treated and stick the hospitals with the bill???
That's already one of the reasons that health care is stratospherically expensive. Those that pay are covering those loses.
If we didn't infuse the military with $50 billion and start to cut every social service to pay for the Wall and give a tax break to those that can well afford to pay a higher tax, that could go a long way to freeing up moneys to subsidize less expensive costs to millions of poor Americans or retired Americans now on Medicaid/care to have more and better services for less money.
Right now there are medical services spread out among a huge array of networks from Planned Parenthood to Medicaid and that gives more options for those with limited money for medical services.
But as a Puke, you would like to see all of those services either shut down or scaled way back. That subsidizes the huge tax breaks for the wealthy and eliminates low cost medical services, forcing people in need to either go onto high cost trampdeath or go with no coverage at all. There will be no lowcost alternatives unless individual states fund them.
I'm sure a state like Illinois will be completely health-less and at the sheer mercy of trampdeath!
If trampdeath is even remotely feasible, why did is it not law yet?
Because even the republicans won't support it!!!! LoL
It's typical republicanism, help the rich and FUCK the poor!!!
The poor have no business being Americans anyway!!!!
SS
So your saying that because it's law people should... (show quote)


No. That's not what I'm saying.

What I said is very simple.

And....clearly I was wrong earlier.

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Jul 1, 2017 15:14:46   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
Sjfh wrote:
I would also always have insurance. That choice, though, should be mine to make.

I wouldn't do it with health insurance ... but I do with other "insurance" type products....purchased warranties or pet insurance. I'm comfortable with the risk of having to pay for repairs or such, but plan for the eventuality as I save on the premiums. I should be able to do the same with health insurance if I so desire.


You're dreaming girl.
What's the cost of just a CAT scan?
What if you are in a car accident and neither of your are insured?
Your argument is pitifully republican.
An emergency brain surgery and follow-up because you slipped in the bathtub could cost hundreds of thousands of dollars.
You think you'll save that because that was your choice to not have insurance and put the money in a slush fund?
Again, you're dreaming.
What a weak republican argument.
Trump is trying to improve on the mousetrap, that just doesn't happen. Some things are just hard to engineer from the ground up and improve on them without using a lot of the original design.
When researchers took a red blood cell and cut a cross section. Then they took the most sophisticated CAD and designed an object to flow through veins and do what a red blood cell does, guess what, the researchers came up with the same exact shape!!! And no, it wasn't because god designed it!!! LoL
SS

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Jul 1, 2017 15:34:24   #
Sjfh
 
SharpShooter wrote:
You're dreaming girl.
What's the cost of just a CAT scan?
What if you are in a car accident and neither of your are insured?
Your argument is pitifully republican.
An emergency brain surgery and follow-up because you slipped in the bathtub could cost hundreds of thousands of dollars.
You think you'll save that because that was your choice to not have insurance and put the money in a slush fund?
Again, you're dreaming.
What a weak republican argument.
Trump is trying to improve on the mousetrap, that just doesn't happen. Some things are just hard to engineer from the ground up and improve on them without using a lot of the original design.
When researchers took a red blood cell and cut a cross section. Then they took the most sophisticated CAD and designed an object to flow through veins and do what a red blood cell does, guess what, the researchers came up with the same exact shape!!! And no, it wasn't because god designed it!!! LoL
SS
You're dreaming girl. br What's the cost of just ... (show quote)


Did I not say I wouldn't do without? No. But if I chose do do without then I'd also pay the consequences....either by forking over the cash, getting a loan or doing without the CT scan. Or a combination.

Choices and consequences. We would all be better off if we allowed more of both.

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Jul 1, 2017 15:56:29   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
Sjfh wrote:
Did I not say I wouldn't do without? No. But if I chose do do without then I'd also pay the consequences....either by forking over the cash, getting a loan or doing without the CT scan. Or a combination.

Choices and consequences. We would all be better off if we allowed more of both.


Like I said, that's a pitiful republican thought process.
I have insurance, so let's all just have the choice, F*CK all those that don't actually have a choice! Got a job, we'll get a better job with insurance!
I'm a vet, I'm provided for, F*CK all the ones that haven't done as well as me!
Get rid of abortion, let all those low life girls have unwanted babies, otherwise, who am I gonna rent my roach infested rentals to???
Not everyone has or will have the luxury of having those personal republican choices to make for themselves.
BUT you have that luxury so F*CK everyone else!!!
"Take care of thy neighbor"....., oh wait, I'm pretty sure I just made that up!?!
After all, I've got to live next to him, and tomorrow it might be you!!!
SS

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Jul 1, 2017 16:41:15   #
Sjfh
 
SharpShooter wrote:
Like I said, that's a pitiful republican thought process.
I have insurance, so let's all just have the choice, F*CK all those that don't actually have a choice! Got a job, we'll get a better job with insurance!
I'm a vet, I'm provided for, F*CK all the ones that haven't done as well as me!
Get rid of abortion, let all those low life girls have unwanted babies, otherwise, who am I gonna rent my roach infested rentals to???
Not everyone has or will have the luxury of having those personal republican choices to make for themselves.
BUT you have that luxury so F*CK everyone else!!!
"Take care of thy neighbor"....., oh wait, I'm pretty sure I just made that up!?!
After all, I've got to live next to him, and tomorrow it might be you!!!
SS
Like I said, that's a pitiful republican thought p... (show quote)

No wonder you're so bitter. You assume the worst in everyone. Pathetic and depressing. If I did the same, I'd be tempted to behave as you do.....thank God that he blessed me with self control.

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Jul 1, 2017 16:54:08   #
mwalsh Loc: Houston
 
The EMTALA does not address general healthcare issues. It requires all ERs to screen and stabilize real emergency medical conditions (ie life is at risk.) All they are required to do is stabilize the patient before transferring them to a public hospital. So, a case of flu, a minor burn, a sprained wrist, etc. is not covered.

The Emergency Medical Treatment and Labor Act (EMTALA) is a federal law that requires anyone coming to an emergency department to be stabilized and treated, regardless of their insurance status or ability to pay, but since its enactment in 1986 has remained an unfunded mandate.

Since it is unfunded, the private ER if free to pursue the patient for unpaid services.

It hardly ensures availability of healthcare, just real emergency care.

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Jul 1, 2017 17:47:30   #
Szalajj Loc: Salem, NH
 
mwalsh wrote:
The EMTALA does not address general healthcare issues. It requires all ERs to screen and stabilize real emergency medical conditions (ie life is at risk.) All they are required to do is stabilize the patient before transferring them to a public hospital. So, a case of flu, a minor burn, a sprained wrist, etc. is not covered.

The Emergency Medical Treatment and Labor Act (EMTALA) is a federal law that requires anyone coming to an emergency department to be stabilized and treated, regardless of their insurance status or ability to pay, but since its enactment in 1986 has remained an unfunded mandate.

Since it is unfunded, the private ER if free to pursue the patient for unpaid services.

It hardly ensures availability of healthcare, just real emergency care.
The EMTALA does not address general healthcare iss... (show quote)

Well said!

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Jul 1, 2017 18:38:49   #
dljen Loc: Central PA
 
mwalsh wrote:
The EMTALA does not address general healthcare issues. It requires all ERs to screen and stabilize real emergency medical conditions (ie life is at risk.) All they are required to do is stabilize the patient before transferring them to a public hospital. So, a case of flu, a minor burn, a sprained wrist, etc. is not covered.

The Emergency Medical Treatment and Labor Act (EMTALA) is a federal law that requires anyone coming to an emergency department to be stabilized and treated, regardless of their insurance status or ability to pay, but since its enactment in 1986 has remained an unfunded mandate.

Since it is unfunded, the private ER if free to pursue the patient for unpaid services.

It hardly ensures availability of healthcare, just real emergency care.
The EMTALA does not address general healthcare iss... (show quote)


That explains why small, local hospitals would go out of business. So journalists have addressed it, just not by name, thanks Walsh.

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Jul 1, 2017 19:00:59   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Bunko.T wrote:
You hit the nail on the head with BRICK WALL.
This check mate has the decorum of a brick wall, a foul mind, & I don't think he could have a mother. He talks about women, Highly intelligent women, as does his hero, trump. What else could you expect. Dumb as a brick wall.



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Jul 1, 2017 19:06:23   #
ptcanon3ti Loc: NJ
 
How anyone can continue to support the imbecile who is president is beyond my imagination. He is nothing more than a boor and an embarrassment for America.
Sad and pathetic little person is The Orange Clown.

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Jul 1, 2017 19:09:51   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Sjfh wrote:
What is it that makes you believe you know what I think, feel, believe?

Whatever it may be, it's led you astray. You have no clue what is in my head and heart, yet you tell me that you do....and it seems you base your own words and actions on those incorrect (or false.....or FAKE) conclusions.

It's a lose-lose all around. That's sad.....


Is one not allowed to read your posts and assume that you are sincere and therefore your posts reflect what you think and feel? Of course if you only post for entertainment, reading anything into your posts would be a fools mission. Also, if your posts are only for your own entertainment, that would make you a troll. I presumed you were sincere.

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Jul 1, 2017 19:15:45   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
Dan Rather? The same guy who ended his career with a made up story about Bush? You know, the same guy that was determined to get that republican out of the White House so much so that he lied and was caught, ending one of the biggest careers in journalism? Yeah, I thought so, the same guy that no one other than the most partisan democrats have wanted to hear from for many years now.


As I recall the general opinion was that what Rather had to say was most likely true, but the documents were not genuine. Rather got taken in, but the just of what he said was correct. Yes Rather got embarrassed and his network was embarrassed but that doesn't put him on the level of heroes of yours, such as President Bannon and Alex Jones.

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Jul 1, 2017 19:28:27   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
What you don't seem to understand is that it is not about "I have mine, screw you.", as I have pointed out one the Obamacare expansion of Medicaid was not simply about the poor, a family making a 100K a year should be able to purchase Health insurance. The increase in premiums and higher deductibles that accompanied Obamacare have made it almost impossible for many people to access healthcare, somehow you and most dems fail to grasp that a family paying about $8000 for their insurance and then having to pay another $6500 for their deductible may not have real access to healthcare at all because it becomes even less obtainable to them than not having any insurance at all, at least they would still have that money that they spent on premiums in case little Johnny breaks his arm, a family on a budget would have to pay the premiums and then another 6500 before they would see one dime come back to them. No wonder the insurance companies went for this deal because many families will never see the first dime paid out by the insurance companies, what they did not count on was so many young healthy people choosing to pay the penalty rather than purchasing insurance as mandated by our government. This fact put a big whole in their revenue streams that were to go to cover preexisting conditions and the additional coverages mandated by Obamacare.

When you say "I have mine, screw you", you are so dead wrong, just as you believe that the government can not only fix our lives but has a mandate to do so, there is a whole opposing train of thought that feels like the government can't really fix much and that we are better off without them meddling into our lives and our country's economy, that the more government takes from our economy in the form of taxes and debt that the less economic opportunity there will be for all of us..... How is that so hard for democrats to understand, that if through regulation, taxing, and fiscal policy our government creates an environment that makes it difficult to start or grow businesses in this country then there will be fewer start ups and more businesses will leave this country just as we have experienced over the last 30 years resulting in less opportunity for the average person trying to get ahead in life to do so? I guess that you somehow miss the fact that China's economy has been growing at rates 4 to 5 times faster than ours and that with growth rates between 3 and 4 percent that even with lower taxes that the government will actually be collecting more revenues in a 10 year window.
What you don't seem to understand is that it is no... (show quote)


So, in your mind, insurance companies basically can be trusted to , without regulation, show the integrity to do what's in the best interest of the country. That isn't anywhere in their business, and you know it. Even Adam Smith (remember him) didn't believe in unfettered capitalism. Under Trumps conceived (yes I realize that Trump hasn't even read the proposals) seniors will see there premiums go up by a factor of five. You will probably be a senior some day, unless you still look like your old avatar. Hell, American companies could compete more effectively against companies from countries with national health care, if they didn't have health care costs that companies in other countries do not have. I figured that would make more difference to you than anything based on just doing what is right, something that i believe means little if anything to you.

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Jul 1, 2017 19:34:41   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Sjfh wrote:
Nobody will be hurt by an act of legislation. And nobody will be denied healthcare. They may need to foot the bill themselves, but that's no more painful than having to pay a mortgage/rent or buy groceries. It's not fun putting my insurance bill ahead of my vacation, but it's what I need to do as a responsible adult.

Otherwise....great post. 👍👍👍


Have you never noticed people on the side of the road in cardboard boxes and tents? Did you just assume they were camping. Many people cannot pay a mortgage or rent, or buy groceries with any regularity. If enough people become desperate enough, you will no longer be able to work either. It will become your full time job to attempt to protect what you have. Oh, how I hope we don't find ourselves there.

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Jul 1, 2017 19:38:02   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Checkmate wrote:
Many, many if not most are sick and tired of the hate and evil that permeates you leftists, liberals, progressives and basically the dregs of civilization since Trump kicked your lying
whore Hillary. Look at the constant attacks on here on a daily basis. Trump has done more positive for this country trying to undo the destruction that Obama unleashed on the country.


This entire culture of selfishness can be traced back to Reagan. He's dead, I have no desire to dig him up and kick him for a while, but I would like to see the culture of selfishness ended.

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