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Mar 28, 2017 12:59:08   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Tiny UFOs? :D

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Mar 28, 2017 13:08:44   #
Wingpilot Loc: Wasilla. Ak
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Tiny UFOs? :D


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Mar 28, 2017 13:26:38   #
Kiiski Loc: Chehalis WA
 
I have had the same thing show up on high altitude shots, I was a mountaineer before health problems hit me like a runaway bus, and while I never had an explanation as to what caused it, using a good quality polarizing filter took care of the "problem". I wish I could remember which brand filter it was, I tried a number of them before I found one that mostly cleared it up.
Barry

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Mar 28, 2017 15:50:10   #
Wingpilot Loc: Wasilla. Ak
 
Kiiski wrote:
I have had the same thing show up on high altitude shots, I was a mountaineer before health problems hit me like a runaway bus, and while I never had an explanation as to what caused it, using a good quality polarizing filter took care of the "problem". I wish I could remember which brand filter it was, I tried a number of them before I found one that mostly cleared it up.
Barry


Thank you. I'll pass that one along.

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Mar 28, 2017 15:51:56   #
ccaissie
 
I don't understand what you mean. There are black specks, but that's not what's gotten replies. There are striations in the clouds. Looks like an alpine sunrise to me.

Colin

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Mar 28, 2017 16:07:37   #
Wingpilot Loc: Wasilla. Ak
 
ccaissie wrote:
I don't understand what you mean. There are black specks, but that's not what's gotten replies. There are striations in the clouds. Looks like an alpine sunrise to me.

Colin


To the left of the center, you see a tall peak, with a steep slope going down to the right of it, into a high ridegeline. Above and just to the left of that ridgeline, if you zoom in on the image, you will see some transparent circles or roundish shaped artifacts. This is what we are referring to. No doubt it's an aberration created, possibly, by meteoroligcal conditions, possibly blowing snow, something like that.

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Mar 28, 2017 16:48:21   #
therwol Loc: USA
 
Wingpilot wrote:
To the left of the center, you see a tall peak, with a steep slope going down to the right of it, into a high ridegeline. Above and just to the left of that ridgeline, if you zoom in on the image, you will see some transparent circles or roundish shaped artifacts. This is what we are referring to. No doubt it's an aberration created, possibly, by meteoroligcal conditions, possibly blowing snow, something like that.


Let's settle what we're talking about. Is it the whitish fluff below these arrows that I added to a crop of the picture? Download to see it better.


(Download)

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Mar 28, 2017 16:53:01   #
OhD Loc: West Richland, WA
 
Pretty sure it's compression artifacts or in-camera sharpening or other image enhancement. Similar patterns are all over the rocky snowfields, near every high-contrast edge.

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Mar 28, 2017 17:11:49   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
OhD wrote:
Pretty sure it's compression artifacts or in-camera sharpening or other image enhancement. Similar patterns are all over the rocky snowfields, near every high-contrast edge.




Wingpilot,
Can you or your son look at the original raw file and see these artifacts?

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Mar 28, 2017 17:49:05   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
Wingpilot wrote:
.../...

Playing 'detective on the answers... I saw both the cause and solution.

Cause:
dpullum wrote:
could be real? Ice forming in the updraft of sun warmed air. But as it rises it is cooled by adiabatic cooling. " air temperature falls quite noticeably with increasing altitude." Moisture in the air would then form ice leafs which reflect light brightly. Much as Erdos2 described.

Years ago, I recall seeing in the cold upper Michigan early morning air above a power plant cooling water discharge rose and then formed a sparkling cloud directly above. There was no wind so it lingered.
could be real? Ice forming in the updraft of sun w... (show quote)


Since the reflection of ice particles are minute they are invisible to the naked eye but the camera sees them. An upward wind would be responsible for its creation and motion which also explains why is is localized in two places and nowhere else.

Kiiski wrote:
I have had the same thing show up on high altitude shots, I was a mountaineer before health problems hit me like a runaway bus, and while I never had an explanation as to what caused it, using a good quality polarizing filter took care of the "problem". I wish I could remember which brand filter it was, I tried a number of them before I found one that mostly cleared it up.
Barry

A polarizing filter would indeed filter some of (not all) this stuff out w/o trouble. The brand does not matter as far as I now but circular polarizing would work best.

So:
- Cause: Ice particles
- Correction: Polarizing filter

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Mar 28, 2017 18:09:24   #
John Howard Loc: SW Florida and Blue Ridge Mountains of NC.
 
Still think it is too much saturation and likely the sharpening effect on mid tones from too much clarity. Looking at the original before PP raw file would help.

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Mar 28, 2017 18:41:34   #
Wingpilot Loc: Wasilla. Ak
 
therwol wrote:
Let's settle what we're talking about. Is it the whitish fluff below these arrows that I added to a crop of the picture? Download to see it better.


That's it,

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Mar 28, 2017 19:37:45   #
photon56 Loc: North America
 
I don't see them when I download the photo. My guess is jpg format is causing it.

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Mar 28, 2017 19:41:23   #
therwol Loc: USA
 
photon56 wrote:
I don't see them when I download the photo. My guess is jpg format is causing it.


The crop with the arrows I posted pointing to the artifact was made from the downloaded photo. (about 8 posts ago.)

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Mar 29, 2017 02:22:34   #
bobsisk Loc: Chandler, Arizona
 
Snow and shadows are strange bedfellows. For instance, if you look not far to the left of the 'artifacts' you'll see two small triangular shapes - possibly young evergreens. The lower one looks like it is holding a broom. Then, directly below the 'artifacts' in a white area you'll see what resembles a polar bear's head; the bear swimming submerged, except for the head, in a river of snow. Just to the right of that appears to be a bird's head.

Oops, the cropping took out what I was looking at.

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