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Mar 28, 2017 08:37:35   #
John Howard Loc: SW Florida and Blue Ridge Mountains of NC.
 
Given the halo around the high peak it looks like too much saturation was used to make the sky pink. Dial. Ack the saturation and see if the artifacts go away. I had difficulty finding them anyway.

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Mar 28, 2017 09:49:47   #
PaulR01 Loc: West Texas
 
Looks like blowing snow.

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Mar 28, 2017 10:00:47   #
William Royer Loc: Kansas
 
My question would be what 'processing' was done to the picture -- either in-camera or post? As examples, could those artifacts be the result either of applying too much sharpening or saturation to the image?

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Mar 28, 2017 10:05:33   #
Graham Smith Loc: Cambridgeshire UK
 
William Royer wrote:
My question would be what 'processing' was done to the picture -- either in-camera or post? As examples, could those artifacts be the result either of applying too much sharpening or saturation to the image?


They are artifacts caused by pushing the processing too far, either the saturation and or the contrast. Possibly sharpening hasn't helped either.

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Mar 28, 2017 10:07:55   #
Paul J. Svetlik Loc: Colorado
 
Quite common low angle light effect when the sun is rising or setting.
Ice particles in the air intensify the color saturation. During the day, when the sun is higher, there is even a possibility to see the light breaking up into a rainbow like segments.

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Mar 28, 2017 10:18:24   #
RCJets Loc: Virginia
 
I really didn't see anything I wouldn't expect to see in a Sunrise with thin high clouds which are ice crystals. Small particles in the upper atmosphere are what gives color to the sun rises and sunsets, after all. So, why worry.

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Mar 28, 2017 10:46:24   #
Wingpilot Loc: Wasilla. Ak
 
GoofyNewfie wrote:
If we can see the image you uploaded, you didn't post a raw file.
Post the raw so we can open it and see for ourselves.
Looks like JPEG artifacts to me.


My grandson took the picture, and he shoots only in RAW. I wouldn't know how to post other than what he provided. Maybe when a photo is shared (he airdropped it to me) it reverts back to a JPEG file.

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Mar 28, 2017 10:47:08   #
Wingpilot Loc: Wasilla. Ak
 
William Royer wrote:
My question would be what 'processing' was done to the picture -- either in-camera or post? As examples, could those artifacts be the result either of applying too much sharpening or saturation to the image?


He used LR to PP the image.

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Mar 28, 2017 10:50:00   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
GoofyNewfie wrote:
Post the raw so we can open it and see for ourselves.


Is that possible? Dropbox?

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Mar 28, 2017 10:50:22   #
Wingpilot Loc: Wasilla. Ak
 
RCJets wrote:
I really didn't see anything I wouldn't expect to see in a Sunrise with thin high clouds which are ice crystals. Small particles in the upper atmosphere are what gives color to the sun rises and sunsets, after all. So, why worry.


I agree that it's nearly invisible at normal size, and may not even show up in a print, even a large one, at least when viewed at normal viewing distance. He was just concerned about this showing up and for what reason. He tried using the de-noise tool, but it didn't take it out. At least not completely, anyway. Since it's a photo that will probably remain in his computer or external storage device, we're not too worried about it. We were just looking for a possible explanation.

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Mar 28, 2017 10:56:25   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Is that possible? Dropbox?


I think I've seen it done here before.
Not sure on the size limit.

"For JPG files, the forum will automatically turn it into a viewable thumbnail inside the post. Those are your normal pictures you see in the posts.

For other types of files, like PDF documents, the file will be available as a linked download. You would see it as "Download" link inside a post."

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Mar 28, 2017 11:08:44   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
GoofyNewfie wrote:
I think I've seen it done here before.
Not sure on the size limit.

"For JPG files, the forum will automatically turn it into a viewable thumbnail inside the post. Those are your normal pictures you see in the posts.

For other types of files, like PDF documents, the file will be available as a linked download. You would see it as "Download" link inside a post."


"...please make sure to use JPG files"

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Mar 28, 2017 12:10:26   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
Yes, it looks to me like something actual in the image.... such as blown snow or ice crystals.

It would be very easy to clone out, if it bothers you.

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Mar 28, 2017 12:24:45   #
therwol Loc: USA
 
Wingpilot wrote:
My grandson took this photo of the sunrise behind these mountains here. But for some reason some odd artifacts appear above the ridge near the center of the image. We have looked at this and can't figure out what it is, so I asked him if I could post it here to see if anyone of you more knowledgeable folks have any ideas what this might be. Zoom in on the image and look just about center above the ridgeline to the right of the tall peak, in the pink sky.


Could this be due to reflections inside of the lens causing some of the white of the snow to spill over into the adjacent area? Just a guess. I have no idea.

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Mar 28, 2017 12:29:32   #
Wingpilot Loc: Wasilla. Ak
 
therwol wrote:
Could this be due to reflections inside of the lens causing some of the white of the snow to spill over into the adjacent area? Just a guess. I have no idea.


I don't think so.

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