The level of paranoia about cameras today's society
Sep 30, 2016 06:47:32 #
jethro779 wrote:
Did it occur to anybody that he might be taking street views for Google Earth?
Naw, they use a mobile van with mounted camera for that, you see the shadow in some Google Maps street level images. Yikes, millions of road-side stills shot by hand!
Sep 30, 2016 06:54:09 #
jerryc41 wrote:
We have become a very afraid society, and politicians like that because they promise to protect us if we vote for them. Remember how we used to laugh at the primitive people in the jungle who were afraid to have their pictures taken? Welcome to the jungle.
The rising level of paranoia has me doing more landscape and less "civilization" photography. We're becoming a country of violent, paranoid cowards. "Attack first, just to be safe."
The rising level of paranoia has me doing more landscape and less "civilization" photography. We're becoming a country of violent, paranoid cowards. "Attack first, just to be safe."
"Welcome to the jungle it gets worse here everyday
You learn to live like an animal in the jungle where we play
If you got a hunger for what you see you'll take it eventually
You can have everything you want but you better not take it from me"
Sep 30, 2016 07:07:23 #
I stopped and took a few shots of a barn last night and aske the people if it was alright to do. They said no problem and thanks for asking.
JD750 wrote:
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Sep 30, 2016 07:10:56 #
JD750 wrote:
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I've taken Cell shots of cars or people that seem out of place in my neighborhood (and I fairly) sure they do not live on my street or nearby. The most recent occurrence I actually drove by a car stopped on my street rolled down the window and asked them "what's up?" The answer was "I'm waiting for my cousin ...". Made enough sense. I was feel especially bold that day as my neighborhood is not great and one might be questioning a gang member.
So far I have not had any real issues with photographing buildings. Only once a commercial office building manager came out and asked me what I was doing. I explained I was taking photos for a photo class. I had been in the "inside" courtyard as well, so his inquiry was not unexpected. Though it was a building I've been in many time before and since for seeing one of the client business tenants. Whence I knew there was anything worth photographing. I've taken images from the side walk of homes, but try to stay off their property. But then again, in the old days this was with a tripod and huge view camera. I'm sure the home owner would not figure crooks or other nefarious people would spend that much time or carry around heavy equipment.
What is the line from a Kinks song? "Paranoia It Destroy Ya."
Sep 30, 2016 07:14:23 #
Sep 30, 2016 07:14:36 #
Motorbones wrote:
As a neighborhood watch coordinator, I'd probably walk out there, photograph the license plate and casually but firmly inform him that I'm with neighborhood watch and ask what is he doing. Remain inquisitive and non-confrontational. Next step, report it to the local authorities as a suspicious unknown person in my neighborhood if his response wasn't acceptable.... Yes, I've done this before...
Maybe you should look at your local and national charter for Neighborhood Watch. In all cases, the protocol is to remain in the distance and observe while calling it in. You are never to confront, unless you want to repeat what happened in Florida. You are not the police!
Sep 30, 2016 07:18:11 #
I would also take a pic of the neighborhood watch and inform them my camera sends a copy to my cloud, I have made some quick stops and snapped pics of people's gardens or landscape . I also carry a card that has my email address on it should they wish to contact me to see the actual pics . (I have even dropped off a 4x6 if I get a really nice pic ) The card seems to put them at ease especially if actual people were in the pic
Sep 30, 2016 07:21:19 #
jerryc41 wrote:
We have become a very afraid society, and politicians like that because they promise to protect us if we vote for them. Remember how we used to laugh at the primitive people in the jungle who were afraid to have their pictures taken? Welcome to the jungle.
The rising level of paranoia has me doing more landscape and less "civilization" photography. We're becoming a country of violent, paranoid cowards. "Attack first, just to be safe."
The rising level of paranoia has me doing more landscape and less "civilization" photography. We're becoming a country of violent, paranoid cowards. "Attack first, just to be safe."
Listen closely to this old and long song...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpuyXdKx9Ws
Sep 30, 2016 07:28:47 #
JD750 wrote:
Have you house ever been burglarized? If so you might feel very differently about strangers in your neighborhood.
And people, including kids, live in those buildings. They have rights too, such as a right to ask what is going on. A little good will and communication can go a long way for everybody involved.
And people, including kids, live in those buildings. They have rights too, such as a right to ask what is going on. A little good will and communication can go a long way for everybody involved.
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Sep 30, 2016 07:31:50 #
I mostly just read and learn here, but this post piqued my interest. I found the following info on a site, http://content.photojojo.com/photo-technique/tips/legal-rights-of-photographers/
These are your legal rights. Common sense, however, should be applied to each situation.
The Ten Legal Commandments of Photography
I. Anyone in a public place can take pictures of anything they want. Public places include parks, sidewalks, malls, etc. Malls? Yeah. Even though it’s technically private property, being open to the public makes it public space.
II. If you are on public property, you can take pictures of private property. If a building, for example, is visible from the sidewalk, it’s fair game.
III. If you are on private property and are asked not to take pictures, you are obligated to honor that request. This includes posted signs.
IV. Sensitive government buildings (military bases, nuclear facilities) can prohibit photography if it is deemed a threat to national security.
V. People can be photographed if they are in public (without their consent) unless they have secluded themselves and can expect a reasonable degree of privacy. Kids swimming in a fountain? Okay. Somebody entering their PIN at the ATM? Not okay.
VI. The following can almost always be photographed from public places, despite popular opinion:
accident & fire scenes, criminal activities
bridges & other infrastructure, transportation facilities (i.e. airports)
industrial facilities, Superfund sites
public utilities, residential & commercial buildings
children, celebrities, law enforcement officers
UFOs, the Loch Ness Monster, Chuck Norris
VII. Although “security” is often given as the reason somebody doesn’t want you to take photos, it’s rarely valid. Taking a photo of a publicly visible subject does not constitute terrorism, nor does it infringe on a company’s trade secrets.
VIII. If you are challenged, you do not have to explain why you are taking pictures, nor to you have to disclose your identity (except in some cases when questioned by a law enforcement officer.)
IX. Private parties have very limited rights to detain you against your will, and can be subject to legal action if they harass you.
X. If someone tries to confiscate your camera and/or film, you don’t have to give it to them. If they take it by force or threaten you, they can be liable for things like theft and coercion. Even law enforcement officers need a court order.
These are your legal rights. Common sense, however, should be applied to each situation.
The Ten Legal Commandments of Photography
I. Anyone in a public place can take pictures of anything they want. Public places include parks, sidewalks, malls, etc. Malls? Yeah. Even though it’s technically private property, being open to the public makes it public space.
II. If you are on public property, you can take pictures of private property. If a building, for example, is visible from the sidewalk, it’s fair game.
III. If you are on private property and are asked not to take pictures, you are obligated to honor that request. This includes posted signs.
IV. Sensitive government buildings (military bases, nuclear facilities) can prohibit photography if it is deemed a threat to national security.
V. People can be photographed if they are in public (without their consent) unless they have secluded themselves and can expect a reasonable degree of privacy. Kids swimming in a fountain? Okay. Somebody entering their PIN at the ATM? Not okay.
VI. The following can almost always be photographed from public places, despite popular opinion:
accident & fire scenes, criminal activities
bridges & other infrastructure, transportation facilities (i.e. airports)
industrial facilities, Superfund sites
public utilities, residential & commercial buildings
children, celebrities, law enforcement officers
UFOs, the Loch Ness Monster, Chuck Norris
VII. Although “security” is often given as the reason somebody doesn’t want you to take photos, it’s rarely valid. Taking a photo of a publicly visible subject does not constitute terrorism, nor does it infringe on a company’s trade secrets.
VIII. If you are challenged, you do not have to explain why you are taking pictures, nor to you have to disclose your identity (except in some cases when questioned by a law enforcement officer.)
IX. Private parties have very limited rights to detain you against your will, and can be subject to legal action if they harass you.
X. If someone tries to confiscate your camera and/or film, you don’t have to give it to them. If they take it by force or threaten you, they can be liable for things like theft and coercion. Even law enforcement officers need a court order.
Sep 30, 2016 08:04:36 #
BebuLamar wrote:
I used to do just that but this kind o thing scares me now
"Just because you're paranoid does not mean they're not out to get you..." (Something straight people said to potheads in the '70s to get them to go away...
)Seriously, WHY does it scare you? (Or anyone here, I'm very curious.)
There are many, many great reasons why someone would be photographing houses like that.
Probably the most common usage IS real estate photography, either for comparisons used in appraisals, or for MLS listings, Zillow, Trulia, or one of the other sites.
Another is commercial estate photography sales. Some photographers photograph estates on speculation, then send postcards to the owners, in the hope they will buy a big wall mural.
Still others are just learning how to photograph architectural structures, practicing what they learned in a class or from a book.
Heck, most county governments maintain databases of information on homes that include both aerial and street views of each property, along with floor plans, sale history, ownership history, tax information... There is enough information in those databases to cross reference other databases and learn ALL SORTS of things about your neighbors. And it's all public record... often accessible through links in Zillow.
Sep 30, 2016 08:12:27 #
jethro779 wrote:
Did it occur to anybody that he might be taking street views for Google Earth?
No! The cars with the cameras to take those street views, are clearly marked, and have a shape you'd recognize anywhere!
Sep 30, 2016 08:20:57 #
Morning Star wrote:
No! The cars with the cameras to take those street views, are clearly marked, and have a shape you'd recognize anywhere!
One of the funniest pictures I've EVER seen is that of a young woman FLASHING the Google Earth car. (It was taken by another photographer standing nearby.)
She was wearing a bikini under a stylish raincoat, and was winking at the camera. I always wondered whether any form of that image made it onto the Google Maps or Google Earth site. (Usually, Google blurs out people who show up in their street photos.)
Sep 30, 2016 08:41:30 #
burkphoto wrote:
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It scares me because although it's legal and I have the right to do it but people don't want to see me doing it. I'm scared when people confront me and treat me like a criminals. May be some over jealous person may shoot me (not with a camera). The altitude of people makes me scared.
Sep 30, 2016 08:44:31 #
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