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Sep 29, 2016 15:00:47   #
LFingar Loc: Claverack, NY
 
quixdraw wrote:
I passing through a suburban neighborhood yesterday on an errand -- the light was remarkable and a couple of houses and their landscaping / shadows, etc. were extremely attractive. I took a couple of shots standing on a through road, and not in any kind of private development. If I had been approached by an individual claiming to be neighborhood watch I would have suggested he record my license plate and call the police if he felt something nefarious was going on, but otherwise to buzz off.


As long as you wouldn't have reacted to the individual with immediate hostility, I agree with your approach. It doesn't hurt to periodically, and, if at all possible, in a non-confrontational manner, remind the Paranoia Police that their rights are not the only ones that need to be protected.

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Sep 29, 2016 15:14:29   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
Motorbones wrote:
As a neighborhood watch coordinator, I'd probably walk out there, photograph the license plate and casually but firmly inform him that I'm with neighborhood watch and ask what is he doing. Remain inquisitive and non-confrontational. Next step, report it to the local authorities as a suspicious unknown person in my neighborhood if his response wasn't acceptable.... Yes, I've done this before...


How does anyone know if someone is truly a member of Neighborhood Watch, or the neighborhood trouble maker? Is there some sort of identification?
I thought Neighborhood Watch was just that, to keep an eye out and report anything they thought was suspicious to Law Enforcement. Not to engage people they think are acting suspiciously.

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Sep 29, 2016 15:49:28   #
le boecere
 
rpavich wrote:
Lol...my thoughts?

The level of paranoia is reaching epidemic proportions.


Yup!

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Sep 29, 2016 18:27:30   #
jethro779 Loc: Tucson, AZ
 
Mac wrote:
How does anyone know if someone is truly a member of Neighborhood Watch, or the neighborhood trouble maker? Is there some sort of identification?
I thought Neighborhood Watch was just that, to keep an eye out and report anything they thought was suspicious to Law Enforcement. Not to engage people they think are acting suspiciously.


This is what a neighborhood watch person should do.

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Sep 29, 2016 20:12:26   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
I regularly drive through one of the richest a toniest neighborhoods in the country. There are houses on Beverly Dr. that I admire for their architecture and I am considering photographing them from public property, using my tripod. I am not going to knock on the door and bother the multimillionaire homeowners, but having read this thread, I may place a note on the door explaining why an individual may have been seen photographing their house. There is a house that can be seen on Lakeshore drive across from Turtle Creek that looks like something straight out of Jane Austen, and it's not the largest one. BTW, it's just up the road from Jerry Jones' chateau.

Perhaps our favorite house, though, is an older home that looks as though Bilbo Baggins could be the owner. I'll have to post that one.

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Sep 30, 2016 01:48:44   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
SteveR wrote:
I regularly drive through one of the richest a toniest neighborhoods in the country. There are houses on Beverly Dr. that I admire for their architecture and I am considering photographing them from public property, using my tripod. I am not going to knock on the door and bother the multimillionaire homeowners, but having read this thread, I may place a note on the door explaining why an individual may have been seen photographing their house. There is a house that can be seen on Lakeshore drive across from Turtle Creek that looks like something straight out of Jane Austen, and it's not the largest one. BTW, it's just up the road from Jerry Jones' chateau.

Perhaps our favorite house, though, is an older home that looks as though Bilbo Baggins could be the owner. I'll have to post that one.
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In a neighborhood where there is a lot of tourism, such as people taking pictures of famous people's houses, it is not much of a problem. However in "normal" neighborhoods in the city, this is unusual and owners of the properties may want to know what is up.

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Sep 30, 2016 02:20:42   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
JD750 wrote:
In a neighborhood where there is a lot of tourism, such as people taking pictures of famous people's houses, it is not much of a problem. However in "normal" neighborhoods in the city, this is unusual and owners of the properties may want to know what is up.


What was this about photographers rights that was posted on UHH not that long ago? After all, these are buildings, not schoolkids.

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Sep 30, 2016 02:28:09   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
SteveR wrote:
What was this about photographers rights that was posted on UHH not that long ago? After all, these are buildings, not schoolkids.


Have you house ever been burglarized? If so you might feel very differently about strangers in your neighborhood.

And people, including kids, live in those buildings. They have rights too, such as a right to ask what is going on. A little good will and communication can go a long way for everybody involved.

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Sep 30, 2016 05:51:57   #
David in Dallas Loc: Dallas, Texas, USA
 
Mac wrote:
Maybe he just thought your house was nice and wanted to capture it.
This was my thought. I often take photos of interesting houses when I'm on a tour, just because I want to remember them. It's usually done from a bus or car, though.

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Sep 30, 2016 06:02:47   #
Kuzano
 
quixdraw wrote:
I passing through a suburban neighborhood yesterday on an errand -- the light was remarkable and a couple of houses and their landscaping / shadows, etc. were extremely attractive. I took a couple of shots standing on a through road, and not in any kind of private development. If I had been approached by an individual claiming to be neighborhood watch I would have suggested he record my license plate and call the police if he felt something nefarious was going on, but otherwise to buzz off.


Neighborhood watch.... Hell, I'd dial the phone for him. Get the police out there. Get his nosy f----ing name on the police blotter for the day. (do they get points?)

Yeah, i moved into a nice neighborhood and then took my card to the neighbors (all of them) with a list of things to do and report while their busy ass is overseeing my property? Right on!!!

And please, drop your security resume and badge number in my mail box (federal offense), the next time you're by that way.

Hey wait, maybe you're the one we should be paranoid about?

Mind your own business. Oh, I hear the tinkle of glass coming from the back of your house.


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Sep 30, 2016 06:07:36   #
bettis1 Loc: Texas
 
I've done it at least twice in the last several years. First when we were in the process of remodeling and I took several photos of beautiful homes in Dallas with columned entrances which I wanted to show our builder. The second was when I was seeking a zoning variance to put up a wrought iron fence around our property and I took photos of other examples in our neighborhood to present to the P&Z committee. In neither case was I considered threatening (as far as I know). Had I been challenged, I would have explained that their homes had beautiful characteristics which I appreciated.

Bob

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Sep 30, 2016 06:32:34   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
JD750 wrote:
The following statement was posted on the "Nextdoor my_neighborhood" web site*.

"My neighbor photographed this guy taking pictures of my house a few days ago. Thoughts?"

My point in posting this is to illustrate the level of paranoia about cameras in today's society.

Even of it's not legally required, it helps the publics image of photographers to be a good citizen and talk to people before taking pics of their property.



FYI - My response was:
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Taking pictures is not a crime, ok? No reason to be paranoid. I can't tell what type of camera from the pic. Cell phone? Professional Camera?

So nice car, does not look like your typical low life's car. You say he was taking pictures of your house but he was facing the other way in the pic so perhaps he was taking pictures of the neighborhood. It is legal to do that from the street. Could be he was a photographer and wanted some stock photos of a nice neighborhood. Maybe a Realestate agent, wanted pics of the neighborhood for his brochures. City worker, taking pics of the trees. I walk around the neighborhood with my camera and take pics, it's my hobby. But I always ask before pointing the camera at someone's house. But not everybody does that.

If you see that car again you might want to ask him "what's up?" but otherwise I don't think you need to worry.
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*I find that we site to be an excellent use of social media. It facilitates communication between neighbors, about events, crime, and other happenings in the neighborhood.
The following statement was posted on the "Ne... (show quote)


We have become a very afraid society, and politicians like that because they promise to protect us if we vote for them. Remember how we used to laugh at the primitive people in the jungle who were afraid to have their pictures taken? Welcome to the jungle.

The rising level of paranoia has me doing more landscape and less "civilization" photography. We're becoming a country of violent, paranoid cowards. "Attack first, just to be safe."

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Sep 30, 2016 06:39:01   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
LFingar wrote:
As long as you wouldn't have reacted to the individual with immediate hostility, I agree with your approach. It doesn't hurt to periodically, and, if at all possible, in a non-confrontational manner, remind the Paranoia Police that their rights are not the only ones that need to be protected.


I think there should be a little guard house with a gate at all intersections. Armed guards would approach every vehicle attempting to enter the road to make sure they didn't have assault weapons or cameras. We have to keep our citizens safe from photography.

That could be Trump's new slogan. "Keep America safe from photography!"

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Sep 30, 2016 06:43:12   #
uaeluor1949 Loc: Polk City, Fl
 
I worked for an independent company that took photos of people's home that had purchased home insurance for various insurance companies, wrote down a brief description of the home the neighborhood, how far away the hydrant and fire dept was. I was approached several times, some hostile, but when I asked if they had purchased a new policy and explained why I was there they went home satisfied and that was 40 years ago. Paranoia hasn't really changed much just population growth and all that comes with it. It was one of the best jobs I had, I got to take photos of other things that caught my interest and got paid while doing it.

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Sep 30, 2016 06:44:26   #
katbandit Loc: new york city
 
i would certainly be curious as to why someone would be taking a photo of my house...not sure if i would approach him/her about it ..yes people should be wary but not highly paranoid about stuff like this however there are a lot of nuts out there too..could be casing the house..could be a private investigator..whatever .i am a photographer too and sometimes i see a really nice flower or bird on someones property and want to take the photo..that's when i worry that someone inside may come out with a baseball bat and sling it at me..so paranoia runs both ways sometimes...lol..just be careful that's all..

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