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Apr 26, 2016 05:53:44   #
OnDSnap Loc: NE New Jersey
 
markngolf wrote:
I agree with you and have had similar history and past experiences. ME & Vista were absolute disasters. XP was very good and 7 was Microsoft's best OS up until the Win 10 upgrade. I never had 8 or 8.1, but I did some work on computers with 8. I hated it. I did help some 8.1 users configure it to look like 7. I could have stayed and been very happy with 7 Pro. But I'm a "goto guy", always willing to try something new. I'm happy I made the plunge to Win 10. Now,I'm looking to upgrade my components. New GPU & power supply. I don't need either, but I'm a "speed junkie".

Nice "talking" with you. Your posts and offerings of assistance to others is laudable. I admire that.

Mark
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Nice to meet & talk to you to Mark...have a great week.
Doug

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Apr 26, 2016 07:38:20   #
markngolf Loc: Bridgewater, NJ
 
Are you referring to the right or left click menu?
Mark

bobhoffman63 wrote:
I was planning to wait, but Windows 10 was installed while my computer was sleeping. I have been happy with 10. It is fast and easy to use. All of my programs work with 10 without tweaking. My only issue has been the Start Menu not working. I'm still trying to solve that issue.

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Apr 26, 2016 08:56:48   #
dcampbell52 Loc: Clearwater Fl
 
pithydoug wrote:
Me too. Punch tape, cards(BCDIC EBCDIC), DOS, PCP, MFT, MVT, Vm, Unix, linix, etc., etc. My head hurts :) :)


Me also. I started computers in the punch tape/punch card days (built my own) than sold Compaq (the original) Osborne, Commodore (prior to the 64), Atari 400 (my first "real computer" Atari 800, Apple II,(Ran both Apple Dos and CPM, Apple III, Lisa (sold off my 10,000 shares of Apple stock when it dropped to .15 a share) and started with PC's at Dos, and Can't remember the name of the competitor to Dos that had compression etc). I also had cassette tape drives, floppy disks, 3.5 disks, a Corvus 10 MB hard drive (wow that as a lot of storage in those days). I was one of the very early network engineers and was an expert at Arcnet, Token Ring, 10-base T, 3M's new thing called Ethernet, etc. I specialized in building networks for doctors, hospitals, insurance companies etc. and mainly used Novell as my server OS of choice. Having taken this trip down memory lane, and I still have a box of Novell Netware 2, box of Netware 3 and a box of Netware 4. I also have 3 Redhat servers and 2 Windows servers (one is a Windows Business server). Note I still use the RedHat and Windows servers for my internet connection and one of the Redhat Servers is located in my "Demilitarized Zone" between my outside firewall to the internet and my secondary "inside firewall" to my local network. Yes, it is overkill but I still enjoy playing with them. I also have my old Cisco Catalyst 5500 switch with fiber cards and a 100gigabit and 100 Megabit router card to the outside (drove Verizon Fios support nuts and now drives Brighthouse nuts when I tell them that they have an issue between my house and the CO.) Yes I am a computer Geek that got started back in the day and just kept adding used network equipment to my system as my old employers (a large multi-national insurance company located in Hartford Ct. that I retired from before I went to and retired from Nikon in Melville and moved to Florida) updated and scrapped their old (to them) network gear.

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Apr 26, 2016 09:29:31   #
dkguill Loc: Elkhart, IN
 
crbuckjr wrote:
I am thinking it is time to update to Windows 10. Any pointers about how to do this without too many complications?

Thanks

Chuck

You have already received plenty of advice both positive and negative, but I will add my two cents anyway. I listened to Microsoft when they encouraged me to upgrade. The new Windows 10 worked fine for a couple of weeks and then I was greeted one morning by a blue screen that indicated it wouldn't start. I did all of the things advised and it still wouldn't work. I spent 2 hours on a chat with tech support which proved that the lady helping me couldn't help me...so, I was suspiciously cut off never to hear from her again. Before she left she advised me that, if she couldn't help me, she could kick me upstairs where more experienced people could...for a price. I questioned why I should pay because I had taken Microsoft's advice to upgrade. By then we had established that I had received a "critical update" without my permission the night before my problem began. What became painfully clear was that the update had fried my registry and NOTHING could be done except to wipe the HD and start over. Now, I could have apparently paid MS to do this or I could call my own trusted IT professional. MS clearly didn't want to talk to me about why I should pay to fix the damage caused by their faulty "critical update". I elected to call my IT friend and for $50 she wiped my HD and REINSTALLED WINDOWS 7...which remains on my computer to this day after my trusted IT person convinced me to stay away from Win10 for the foreseeable future. So far I haven't seen a reason to go back. I'm happy with 7...it works! I would agree that the wise approach would be a clean install and not the upgrade. I have vowed not to deal with Windows 10 again until I buy a new computer with it installed...because I will have no choice.

I wish you luck with whatever you decide...

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Apr 26, 2016 12:34:09   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
Kuzano wrote:
Absolute agreement here. Classic Shell (free and small) was my go-to solution for Windows 8, which I personally never truly used. But I used it for clients who felt the need to use the "NEW" OS.

I have looked at Classic Shell on Windows 10 and find that it is a very usable system for a reverted menu as in Windows 7.

For me, it's a tossup to use the new Windows 10 and climb a fairly shallow learning curve, without Classic Shell. Classic Shell however is a fairly remarkable bit of program code for those who prefer a VERY Windows 7 or XP style menu system.
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I don't care for the Windows 10 default Start Menu, much preferring the design of the Windows 7 Start Menu. It's not a fear of change. I'm a systems professional and have been dealing with OS and application changes my whole career. i just plain don't care for the tiled design feature, and don't find it useful..

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Apr 26, 2016 13:08:04   #
Kuzano
 
mwsilvers wrote:
I don't care for the Windows 10 default Start Menu, much preferring the design of the Windows 7 Start Menu. It's not a fear of change. I'm a systems professional and have been dealing with OS and application changes my whole career. i just plain don't care for the tiled design feature, and don't find it useful..


Understood. I don't try to change peoples minds... I try to give them solutions. That's whats kept my referral business flourishing. Some very good programmers Do NOT work for Microsoft.

Many good work arounds and alternate solutions available, as you well know.

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Apr 26, 2016 16:21:05   #
Tracyv Loc: Del Mar, Ca
 
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Apr 26, 2016 17:30:01   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
mwsilvers wrote:
I don't care for the Windows 10 default Start Menu, much preferring the design of the Windows 7 Start Menu. It's not a fear of change. I'm a systems professional and have been dealing with OS and application changes my whole career. i just plain don't care for the tiled design feature, and don't find it useful..


I'm with you on not liking the tiles, but they seem easy enough to turn off or delete from the main start menu without resorting to classic shell.

It's not quite the same as Windows 7, but seems close enough for me and I don't see tiles anymore. Everyone needs to choose their own options of course, but Windows 10 seems to configurable enough to at least make it behave like a Windows 7+ without any additional tools.

I hope everything works for you and everybody else that is actively following discussions about Windows 10, it seems to be able to do the things that most people want with a little effort.

Take care.

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Apr 26, 2016 23:49:31   #
Edia Loc: Central New Jersey
 
I crashed during installation and had to reformat my hard drive. Fortunately, I had backed up my computer on an external drive. The problem turned out to be a Trojan horse on my drive. I then installed windows 10 and restored my data. Have been using it for 6 months without issue and find it to be the best operating system I have ever used and that includes OSX 10.... It boots up in less than 30 seconds and shuts down just as fast. My computer runs faster than it did running windows 8.1. Just remember, BACK UP your data and run a virus detection program before you start.

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Apr 27, 2016 01:47:37   #
bobhoffman63
 
left click menu and Windows Start key. both of these actions show "Critical Error- Windows Start Menu not working.

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Apr 27, 2016 23:36:50   #
PEANUT MAN Loc: Florida
 
As I'm computer illiterate do you have to buy a new computer for windows 10?
Please let me know. Thanks

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Apr 28, 2016 00:37:55   #
Macronaut Loc: Redondo Beach,Ca.
 
PEANUT MAN wrote:
As I'm computer illiterate do you have to buy a new computer for windows 10?
Please let me know. Thanks
I am also computer illiterate but, I do know that others will need to know what you already have, in order to know how to help :wink:

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Apr 28, 2016 00:48:11   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
PEANUT MAN wrote:
As I'm computer illiterate do you have to buy a new computer for windows 10?
Please let me know. Thanks


Very unlikely, unless it is more than ten years old, but if it is more than five years old or even three years old it might be a good idea.

What is your computer, can you tell us?

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Apr 28, 2016 00:57:33   #
bobhoffman63
 
PEANUT MAN wrote:
As I'm computer illiterate do you have to buy a new computer for windows 10?
Please let me know. Thanks


I have a Dell desktop that is approx. 4 to 5 years old that was running Windows 7. The update to Windows 10 was flawless and free. My only problem currently is with the Start Menu not working when I left click. However, when I right click it works and does not show the Tiles.
Bob

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Apr 28, 2016 10:17:19   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
bobhoffman63 wrote:
I have a Dell desktop that is approx. 4 to 5 years old that was running Windows 7. The update to Windows 10 was flawless and free. My only problem currently is with the Start Menu not working when I left click. However, when I right click it works and does not show the Tiles.
Bob


Your computer should be fine with Windows 10. The start menu situations seems a little strange maybe someone has some ideas or a google search may help.

If you can get to the settings menu, personalization and the start option, check how the "use start full screen" slider is set. If it is on, turn it off, and then try left clicking on the start button.

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