crbuckjr Loc: Naples FL

I am thinking it is time to update to Windows 10. Any pointers about how to do this without too many complications?

Thanks

Chuck

Rongnongno Loc: FL

Bah, just live dangerously and jump off the bridge.

Bill_de Loc: US

Go to your computer manufacturers website and see if they have any special instructions for your model. After that follow Microsoft's instructions.

I did two computers on day one, no regrets.

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Haydon

Lots of people upgrade without a hitch. I'm still a firm believer in clean installs.

hlmichel Loc: New Hope, Minnesota

:thumbup:

Even if my upgrade goes off without a hitch, I still have that nagging itch in the back of my mind until I go and do a clean install.

RaeRae Loc: Seattle Wa

I upgraded, had several bad issues and had it professionally uninstalled. I hated it!

djtravels Loc: Georgia boy now

A very reliable computer geek here told me to hold off until Win10 gets it's first upgrade issued. Don't remember his exact words, but I'm holding off.. Not broken don't fix....Win 7.

Macronaut Loc: Redondo Beach,Ca.

My brother in law, who makes a nice living in IT, said just install it and that it's only a very small percentage that have issues, it's usually their system or another pre existing issues with their system.

It took a bit to get used to it and I don't really care for the tiles, so I don't use them, but the more I used it, the faster it got and the more I liked it.

The best Windows OS yet, IMHO:wink:

Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.

That is the old Windows advice. Microsoft has changed the tune, and the first upgrade has already been issued, just not really announced....

Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.

It is by far the best Windows OS in decades, and although there are issues around invasiveness and privacy they can be mitigated to a large degree. It can be made to look and behave in a very similar manner to Windows 7 with a little tuning, and is fast and at least as stable. Every web service is invasive today, we are being harvested.

For now the upgrade is free. It won't be for long, so it's worth biting the bullet now, since later you will still have to upgrade and you'll pay money for the privilege. The world has moved on, like it or not, and you can get on the train or stay on the platform.

I did the upgrade a while ago after much testing, including a dual boot W7 / W10 system until I convinced myself that it was solid. This weekend I've bitten the bullet and done a clean install which is going very well, and addressing a few legacy issues from the upgrade.

It is of course up to you what you do, but if you stay with Windows you will end up being on Windows 10, at more cost and more pain to yourselves.

What do you want? Silk shirts or sack-cloth and ashes? Simple pragmatic choice or a matter of principle?

PVR8 Loc: Raleigh, NC

I put windows 10 on my desktop and I wish I would have stayed with windows 7. windows ten is very annoying and loaded little glitches. I have windows 7 on my laptop and it's far more trouble free and reliable than windows 10. My advice is don't do it yet.

Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.

Is that because Windows 10 has problems, or because your computer had problems before the upgrade that got exposed, or because you didn't do the upgrade properly?

Most people that have problems with Windows 10 have them because of their own issues, not because of Windows 10 itself. Many of us that have been in the industry since before Windows existed are not having significant issues.

All tech has issues, but Windows 10 is very impressive for how few real issues there actually are, and solutions are well documented. Computers are very complicated things these days, and if you don't know what you are doing it can lead to problems.

Apple iphones are one of the most locked down environments out there, and iOS is a mess right now on older iPhones like the 4S. Far worse than Windows 10.

Perhaps you should be willing to spend to the money to take your computer to the shop, as you do with your vehicles, unless you are really sure of your capabilities in this arena.

A clean install takes effort, but is the best way, and it's impressive how many old pieces of software and old peripherals can be made to work with a little diligence, even stuff that is over ten years old. Some of my software is twenty years old and still works as expected.

A major upgrade does take effort, but Windows 10 does the job pretty well, especially with a clean install after the first upgrade. It is free now, it won't be for much longer, and it won't get any easier than it is now. Even if you buy a new machine, you still need to learn how to configure it, use it, and transfer your applications and data.

There is no free lunch!

Macronaut Loc: Redondo Beach,Ca.

I'm a complete computer dummy and don't even know what a "clean install" means. I clicked install and 80 minutes later, I was up and running, after disabling many of the undesirable settings of course ;)

Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.

The fact that it worked and you claim to be a complete computer dummy is a testament to what a good job Murkysoft has done with Windows 10.

Essentially, when in use a computer leaves traces and fragments of older stuff in its environment over time, and the older it gets the more they build up. Cleaning it becomes progressively harder, you need to blow the cobwebs out!

A clean install means starting with a fresh operating system disk or partition (either new or reformatted which removes all old applications and data typically), installing a new OS and rebuilding everything (reinstalling applications, restoring data as required) so it's just like a new (or refurbished) machine. It takes time, effort and planning, but it's like a new computer. Just like restoring an old car or other machine.

I've been doing this with my main machine this weekend and I'm re-configuring my network at the same time, and already seeing a positive difference. Six PC's on the network now, one (W7) about be retired, and that doesn't count phones, printers and other devices, all humming along nicely. Plus I get to reclaim a lot of disk space and re-purpose backup disks over time.

The retiring machine? A ten plus year old Toshiba laptop that can't be upgraded to Windows 10, so it's still Windows 7, upgraded from W XP. It's getting a little old and rickety, and my 88 year old mother in law decided it was getting too slow for her so she wanted a new one! That is a new Dell with Windows 10, and by the time she gets back from Wisconsin and receives it, it will look and behave very similarly to her old one, just blisteringly faster. The touch screen will be a bit of a surprise to be handled a little carefully!

Best of all, other than time and effort, it costs me nothing! :-D :-D

PVR8 Loc: Raleigh, NC

I don't know why there's glitches but I didn't have these issues with windows 7. I took the computer to a local computer repair shop which is very reputable and the tech there told me that he advises his customers to wait for a good while before upgrading to windows 10 because there are still a lot of glitches in the program. I followed the installation process that microsoft issued when they sent me the notice to upgrade my system and I was informed that the upgrade was successful. I shouldn't have to go through a whole bunch of debunking and re-configuring to get a decent operating system after I've been prompted to upgrade. I am in total agreement with the service tech and I will advise anyone to not upgrade to windows 10 at this time. Why leave a great operating system like windows 7 to start having to find work around's to eliminate annoying glitches and not to mention the incompatibility with some programs that work flawlessly in windows 7. As you stated, there is no free lunch and it's not worth the bother.