Psergel Loc: New Mexico

16000! Can you post the image again and "store original".
Also....did you shoot RAW or JPEG and if you shot RAW how much noise reduction did you apply?

At 16000 it is bound to be pretty noisy when pixel peeped but I'd like to get a feel for how it does.
12800 can look OK from my 6D if I'm not really looking to print.

pfrancke Loc: cold Maine

I've been watching prices and have been hoping for affordable 5DIII, but am thinking,still seeing them around 2,200 -- I would REALLY have to consider one if saw it at 1,800

Anyway, if you are aware of great 5DIII bargain, please share information!!! (am assuming you paid around 1,800 or less for 6D)

Gifted One Loc: S. E. Idaho

I purchased my 6D at holiday promotion so a great deal less and it a Refurbished. Something to consider.

J. R.

Gifted One Loc: S. E. Idaho

Canon refurbished pricing below:
1440 7DII
2240 5D3
1200 6D

Canon has ran promotions at times to bring pricing down.

J. R.

SharpShooter Loc: NorCal

RRS, I the last guy you want to ask about things like iso. I always shoot my iso's low. I don't think I've ever been above 6400!
I'm also a believer in fast glass! Remember that 1 stop brings that 12800 to 6400 or that 16000 to 8000.
If the light changes I always shoot Auto ISO, that way I'm always shooting to the lowest common denominator. To shoot manual ISO is to shoot and the highest ISO possible.
Most of my 7ll work is daytime, so even in dark rainy conditions I probably have more light than dimly lit night games.
I try to push my f-stops rather than ISO.
So sorry, but looks like you're getting some pretty good ISO numbers and examples from some of the other guys. I'll look tonight if I get a chance and see if I have any high ISO shots. ;-)
SS

CA_CanonUser Loc: Friendswood, TX

On B and H Photo right now, you can get the 5DMkIII plus a Pixma Pro-100 printer, extra battery (not Canon), 32 GB SDHC card, plus some other goodies for a final price of $2149 (after a $350 rebate). If you need a good photo printer in addition to the camera, this isn't a bad deal. Or you could resell the printer on e-bay.

SharpShooter Loc: NorCal

1, C'mon Sarge, you don't really expect us to believe that do you?!?! But it sure sounds good doesn't it!! :lol:
We're only trying to shoot a sport, not trying to appreciate it!! You can only truely appreciate a sport if you have actually done it. But anyone can shoot it.
A professional photog can be sent to shoot anything and come back with the shots.
An intimate knowledge of photography and the gear you are using will get you a lot further than knowledge of the sport.
I have NEVER seen a lacrosse game but I guarentee you that a quick read of the rule book and then watching a few games on TV and I will be able to get as good a shots as most anybody.

2, And if I'm shooting a sport and want a big dof, and am shooting on say f8 to achieve that, then WHAT special lens do you think I need??
I will say one thing..., if I don't lock focus on my shot, no amount of special lenses is gonna help me or be of any value!! ;-)
SS

RRS Loc: Not sure

Thanks SS, I'm shooting fast glass, 70-200 f/2.8 and 300mm f/2.8. I restrict my ISO to 640 because any faster and I do have a noise problem, in a pinch I have shot ISO 800. When I see the earlier shot at ISO 16000 in low light I think maybe it's time to move up. The 5D II is better but not much good for sports (fast moving) and BIF. Now where is that 500mm f/1.0 you were talking about when we need it? :lol: :lol:

amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA

First of all, unless you make big prints, a FF camera isn't going to make all that much difference in image quality.

Yes, higher ISOs will be more usable, though a lot can be done with 7D images. I regularly use 3200 and have sometimes used 6400 with some care and a bit of extra work in post-processing... just shoot RAW, avoid underexposure like the plaque, maybe even overexpose slightly, pull exposure back down in PP, then apply careful noise reduction, resize and be sure not to sharpen until the last step.

Still, 6D will be better for low light/high ISO work.

Has someone told you that you can only have one camera?

Keep your 7D for sports/action shooting! And get the 6D to use for more sedentary stuff.

If for some reason you can only have one camera, 5DIII would be much better as a sports/action and low light/high ISO camera.

Or, if you really just want to shoot sports/action and are simply looking for a bit improved IQ and high ISO performance, upgrade to 7D Mark II. That's even better than 5DIII as a sports/action camera, though not quite as good at high ISO stuff as either 6D or 5DIII.

Or, there's a big discount on 1DX right now! (Must be a Mark II coming soon.) That's the ultimate FF sports/action camera! (Until the Mark II comes out.)

RRS Loc: Not sure

Thanks Alan, you've answered some of the questions that I had ask "SS". What are your thoughts on auto ISO, I've looked at it but never became a fan. My problem was shooting in manual I couldn't increase or decrease exposure. I don't want to commandeer someone elses post so if you want I could PM you...Ron

Merlin1300 Loc: New England, But Now & Forever SoTX

wow
I have a 7D Mk1 - - thinking about a 5D-III, but wouldn't be able to use half of my glass - as much is EFS (or equivalent).
Since my 7D still takes better photos than I am capable of - - will keep that for now.
Will wait for the 7D-MkII to be superseded by - - whatever - - and get one on the tail end of it's issuance. Or - - maybe pick up a refurb.

carl hervol Loc: jacksonville florida

It's not the camera it the phographer.

RRS Loc: Not sure

I've heard this all before. Lets go shoot BIF and I'll take a Canon 1DX with a 600mm f/4.0 and you take a TLR and then you tell me it's not the camera. :lol: :lol: :lol:

SharpShooter Loc: NorCal

Carl, you know what...., that's the most over-used AND overated cliche in photography today!!! :lol:
SS

Psergel Loc: New Mexico

Especially when applied to action photography.