Why expulsion of "racist" U. of Oklahoma students is illegal (Page 4): If you look (or even if you don't) I addressed that to LA Shooter. I really can picture him on the bus singing...

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

soba1 wrote:

If you're addressing that to me....be they white or back no.
I'm not a chicken $hit so no I wouldn't.
Thats not how I roll.

If you look (or even if you don't) I addressed that to LA Shooter. I really can picture him on the bus singing along, or perhaps leading.

OldDoc Loc: New York

Los-Angeles-Shooter wrote:

The speech censorship codes are blatantly unconstitutional and the courts should not enforce them, much less allow college bureaucrats to institute and enforce such rules. The students are forced to "agree" to such censorship and draconian penalties under duress; the speech restriction scheme cannot and should not survive constitutional challenge.

Wrong. Private speech censorship codes are outside of the constitution unless the government imposes them. I have a firm rule that anyone coming into my house speaking pig latin is expelled from the premises. Neither the constitution nor the courts of the land have any enforcement powers over this. I don't place any duress on potential entrants to my house - my house, my rules - if you want to enter, follow my rules, or go elsewhere. University of Oklahoma says the same thing, as does every college and university I am familiar with (that's a lot of schools) - our school, our rules.

idaholover Loc: Nampa ID

OldDoc wrote:

Wrong. Private speech censorship codes are outside... (show quote)

And if I were the Dean at this school I would provide each of these professors an excellent reference to the University of their choice, in No. Korea!

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2015/03/11/professors-us-flag-symbolizes-racism-should-not-be-displayed-on-campus/

OldDoc Loc: New York

idaholover wrote:

And if I were the Dean at this school I would provide each of these professors an excellent reference to the University of their choice, in No. Korea!

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2015/03/11/professors-us-flag-symbolizes-racism-should-not-be-displayed-on-campus/

I really don't understand this turn of events. I can understand why adolescent students might do this - anything to piss-off the elders. But presumably intelligent professors? I don't understand.

idaholover Loc: Nampa ID

OldDoc wrote:

I really don't understand this turn of events. I can understand why adolescent students might do this - anything to piss-off the elders. But presumably intelligent professors? I don't understand.

I think I do but that is another topic for another day!

idaholover Loc: Nampa ID

OldDoc wrote:

I really don't understand this turn of events. I can understand why adolescent students might do this - anything to piss-off the elders. But presumably intelligent professors? I don't understand.

I just looked at your Bio! No offense intended.

Los-Angeles-Shooter Loc: Los Angeles

soba1 wrote:

If you're addressing that to me....be they white or back no.
I'm not a chicken $hit so no I wouldn't.
Thats not how I roll.

Nah...Thom is, as always, directing slurs and insults toward me.

And if he wants information on abuses by black groups, I suggest he take his fingertips over to Google or other leading search engines and put in the appropriate search phrase. If he wants nasty stuff about Latinos, just look up La Raza, whose organization's very name is racist. Or should I say "racista?"

soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca

thom w wrote:

If you look (or even if you don't) I addressed that to LA Shooter. I really can picture him on the bus singing along, or perhaps leading.

Lol I figured as much just making sure.

Kombiguy Loc: Cedar Rapids, IA

OldDoc wrote:

It isn't an issue of whether someone was offended ... (show quote)

Maybe so, but there is still that pesky first amendment thing, you know.

Kombiguy Loc: Cedar Rapids, IA

thom w wrote:

Using the N word probably qualifies as speech that should be protected but that doesn't mean the school has to put up with it. Glorifying lynching I think is way over the line. Again it depends on what rules they agreed to by registering at that school.

No, it depends on the first amendment.

Kombiguy Loc: Cedar Rapids, IA

thom w wrote:

I think the first amendment has more to do with criminal charges. They weren't charged with anything. Why can't the school protect itself and it's other students?
The first amendment gives them the right to free speech, it doesn't guarantee them the right to go to that school.

No, it has nothing to do with criminal charges. Read it sometimes. you might be surprised.

Kombiguy Loc: Cedar Rapids, IA

OldDoc wrote:

Wrong. Private speech censorship codes are outside... (show quote)

State run universities are agents of the government. The first amendment has been incorporated against the states by the 14th amendment. So a state run university must abide by and provide the protections of the first amendment.

Los-Angeles-Shooter Loc: Los Angeles

OldDoc wrote:

Wrong. Private speech censorship codes are outside... (show quote)

You miss the important point that these ARE government entities. Govt.-established schools, run with taxpayer money. Thus they are and by all rights should be required to comply with the highest law of the land. Which in this case is the 1st Amendment to the Constitution.

Los-Angeles-Shooter Loc: Los Angeles

thom w wrote:
I think the first amendment has more to do with criminal charges. They weren't charged with anything. Why can't the school protect itself and it's other students?
The first amendment gives them the right to free speech, it doesn't guarantee them the right to go to that school.
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If you would read and listen more, and yap your mouth less, you wouldn't say idiocy like the above. Perhaps you are confused between the 1st and 5th Amendment, but from your post all we can infer is that you are confused. Have you ever actually READ the Bill of Rights. Do you know what the Bill of Rights is?

skylane5sp Loc: Puyallup, WA

thom w wrote:

I think the first amendment has more to do with criminal charges. They weren't charged with anything. Why can't the school protect itself and it's other students?
The first amendment gives them the right to free speech, it doesn't guarantee them the right to go to that school.

O.M.G. "You THINK"???? Why don't you READ the First Amendment before you shoot your mouth off. "Criminal charges"? Really? You really don't have a clue, do you...