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Mar 10, 2015 19:22:23   #
Los-Angeles-Shooter Loc: Los Angeles
 
An interesting point of view regarding law-breaking by the University bureaucrats and the interesting conflict where bureaucrats follow political correctness to the point of abusing victims' rights.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/03/10/no-a-public-university-may-not-expel-students-for-racist-speech/

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Mar 10, 2015 20:21:13   #
Los-Angeles-Shooter Loc: Los Angeles
 
Free speech is established in cases where the speech is often offensive.

There is also an interesting pile of hypocrisy on college campuses and elsewhere. Offensive speech is ignored by the bureaucrats when it comes from favored minority groups. But if it comes from white males the bureaucrats jump on it with jackboots.

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Mar 10, 2015 21:08:32   #
Kombiguy Loc: Cedar Rapids, IA
 
nakkh wrote:
So I guess you will be contributing to their legal fund...


No, but if they asked me, I'd defend them pro-bono. Sort of like the ACLU defending the NAZIs in Skokie.

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Mar 10, 2015 21:20:28   #
soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca
 
Kombiguy wrote:
No, but if they asked me, I'd defend them pro-bono. Sort of like the ACLU defending the NAZIs in Skokie.


My feelings on the issue.
They should have left it alone.
Let public opinion and the student body handle it.
I have issues though as far as privacy. If it was on a chartered bus,
to me that's private. If it was a train then they are really dumb a$$es.
But I think peer pressure alone may have made them leave.

"Hey aren't you that a$$hole in the video".
Being booted from the fraternity.......
There should be some things that should be allowed to run its course.

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Mar 10, 2015 22:31:12   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Kombiguy wrote:
No, but if they asked me, I'd defend them pro-bono. Sort of like the ACLU defending the NAZIs in Skokie.


If you normally do things like that for people of various persuasions then I understand. If you are doing (or are willing to) for these racists that you wouldn't normally do then you should be ashamed of yourself.

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Mar 10, 2015 22:40:46   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Los-Angeles-Shooter wrote:
An interesting point of view regarding law-breaking by the University bureaucrats and the interesting conflict where bureaucrats follow political correctness to the point of abusing victims' rights.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/03/10/no-a-public-university-may-not-expel-students-for-racist-speech/


I think whether or not it's legal probably depends on what rules the school has in effect that the students have accepted by enrolling. Based on your record here I really question your motivation in posting this. I'm not questioning your right to do so I'm just questioning your motivation. I have never seen you post anything about minorities being mistreated by whites. Of course you may not be aware of this ever happening but that really stretches credulity.

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Mar 10, 2015 23:14:01   #
soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca
 
thom w wrote:
I think whether or not it's legal probably depends on what rules the school has in effect that the students have accepted by enrolling. Based on your record here I really question your motivation in posting this. I'm not questioning your right to do so I'm just questioning your motivation. I have never seen you post anything about minorities being mistreated by whites. Of course you may not be aware of this ever happening but that really stretches credulity.


I have to give LA credit for this thread
http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-286434-1.html
:thumbup:

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Mar 11, 2015 07:06:06   #
nakkh Loc: San Mateo, Ca
 
TIP:
If you are going to act like a racist idiot, don't record it on video .....

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Mar 11, 2015 08:12:45   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
soba1 wrote:
I have to give LA credit for this thread
http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-286434-1.html
:thumbup:


I followed the link. I don't see any difference from his typical posts. I still see a very racist agenda. I don't recall him using words like checkmate and Davidheald do. He's more subtle than that (barely). You could look at any one of his posts and not see an agenda. I don't think you can look at several of them, like any 5 or 10 of your choice, and not see an agenda.

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Mar 11, 2015 08:20:35   #
davefales Loc: Virginia
 
Due process? Boren has probably left himself open to a big suit.

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Mar 11, 2015 09:02:04   #
soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca
 
thom w wrote:
I followed the link. I don't see any difference from his typical posts. I still see a very racist agenda. I don't recall him using words like checkmate and Davidheald do. He's more subtle than that (barely). You could look at any one of his posts and not see an agenda. I don't think you can look at several of them, like any 5 or 10 of your choice, and not see an agenda.


I would say for lack of better words;
(not trying to be insulting) comes off more a-hole than
prejudiced.
Also as I have stated before imo there is a difference between racism and prejudice.

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Mar 11, 2015 11:17:22   #
eye2eye Loc: Chicago, Illinois
 
So, should I get offended when I'm walking down the street and get called "Cracker" because I won't give the black homeless man a cigarette? Should I have him arrested? I find that word offensive. I guess the point to this whole thing is people make racist remarks EVERY DAY. Even against people of their own ethnicity. Whomever posted the video was just trying to stir up s--t. That's a total Sharpton move and it worked. There is a whole psychological chain reaction when it comes to white on black offenses. Why aren't the rappers arrested when they use the "N" word in their music? I just don't get it. Why is that OK Oprah? Please educate this "cracker" on what blacks can call whites and other blacks. Can I have a list? But it's offensive when a white person says ANYTHING stereotypical against ANY ethnicity even in jest or in a joke. When did we all lose our sense of humor?

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Mar 11, 2015 11:22:05   #
idaholover Loc: Nampa ID
 
If you don't like racism promoted in the United States of America, don't elect race baiting leadership.

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Mar 11, 2015 12:06:45   #
hopthecop Loc: salisbury md
 
eye2eye wrote:
So, should I get offended when I'm walking down the street and get called "Cracker" because I won't give the black homeless man a cigarette? Should I have him arrested? I find that word offensive. I guess the point to this whole thing is people make racist remarks EVERY DAY. Even against people of their own ethnicity. Whomever posted the video was just trying to stir up s--t. That's a total Sharpton move and it worked. There is a whole psychological chain reaction when it comes to white on black offenses. Why aren't the rappers arrested when they use the "N" word in their music? I just don't get it. Why is that OK Oprah? Please educate this "cracker" on what blacks can call whites and other blacks. Can I have a list? But it's offensive when a white person says ANYTHING stereotypical against ANY ethnicity even in jest or in a joke. When did we all lose our sense of humor?
So, should I get offended when I'm walking down th... (show quote)


thanks, a nice polite way of putting it :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Mar 11, 2015 12:41:10   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
eye2eye wrote:
So, should I get offended when I'm walking down the street and get called "Cracker" because I won't give the black homeless man a cigarette? Should I have him arrested? I find that word offensive. I guess the point to this whole thing is people make racist remarks EVERY DAY. Even against people of their own ethnicity. Whomever posted the video was just trying to stir up s--t. That's a total Sharpton move and it worked. There is a whole psychological chain reaction when it comes to white on black offenses. Why aren't the rappers arrested when they use the "N" word in their music? I just don't get it. Why is that OK Oprah? Please educate this "cracker" on what blacks can call whites and other blacks. Can I have a list? But it's offensive when a white person says ANYTHING stereotypical against ANY ethnicity even in jest or in a joke. When did we all lose our sense of humor?
So, should I get offended when I'm walking down th... (show quote)


I think history explains a lot. If I were black I think there is much that I wouldn't have a sense of humor about.

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