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Dec 29, 2014 13:33:44   #
Sweet Willie Loc: Texas
 
There once was a lady named Wright,
who traveled much faster than light.
She left one day,
In a relative way,
And returned the previous night!
Sweet Willie

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Dec 29, 2014 15:30:20   #
BW326 Loc: Boynton Beach, Florida
 
Ka2azman wrote:
Einstein does not have the last word on the subject. The real universe does. For his time, he was right. Just like those that advocated we could not go faster than the speed of sound. There are ideas coming up like bending space and time, which are based upon Einstein's concepts.


I totally agree. I have read recently that scientists now have the ability to send messages (at the speed of light) to orbiting space stations with "data" that will be translated by 3D printers to create "tools" necessary for maintenance. Who'd have thought ... sending tools at the speed of light by converting their structure to a mathematical pattern. Somewhat reminiscent of the "sci-fi" replicators in Star Trek.
Now, scientists are starting to learn more about phenomena like quantum entanglement, a process that does defy the speed of light limitation. It's demonstrated effects seem to happen instantaneously no matter how great the distance. Of course, this is all very new and we are only able to manipulate certain properties such as 'spin' but in another hundred years ... who knows.

Of course, in order to send a data pattern to a printer in space, or to manipulate "entangled particles" we still need to send the printer or the replicator there. The difference would be a 3D printer would still have to wait for a signal traveling at the speed of light but a quantum-entanglement replicator would receive the signal instantaneously.

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Dec 29, 2014 15:37:56   #
jimmya Loc: Phoenix
 
bearcat wrote:
I suppose, if we play our cards right, we just might survive as a species long after Earth is turned into a cinder...

http://exoplanets.newscientistapps.com/?utm_source=howtogeek&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter

BC


Often called the "comfort zone", that area where we are relative to our parent star, there certainly could be lots of other civilizations out there looking back at us.

But the question also becomes, if those stars are 3,000 light years from here, we're seeing planets that were in the position for the telescope to see them a thousand years before Christ.

So, one has to ask, what are they like now? Can any living being travel 3,000 light years in a short enough time to make it to our planet to be then seen as UFO's? difficult to say isn't it.

Nice and very interesting web page, thanks for posting.

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Dec 29, 2014 17:28:34   #
raferrelljr Loc: CHARLOTTE, NC
 
bearcat wrote:
I suppose, if we play our cards right, we just might survive as a species long after Earth is turned into a cinder...

http://exoplanets.newscientistapps.com/?utm_source=howtogeek&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter

BC


It's all dimensional. If you are out of space/time then traveling dimensionally should be easy. I think that relativavistic physics thinks that there are as many as 13 dimensions.

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Dec 29, 2014 17:58:25   #
Adicus Loc: New Zealand
 
We are stuck here (where we belong )for as long as we persist in using rocket type propulsion to get anywhere else.We have to stop using old fashioned engines and stop thinking that the speed of light is the fastest that things can move and then and only then will we get anywhere else that can support our life type. I firmly believe that we will never be allowed to go to any place else in the universe that has civilised beings as we are really not very nice !!! Of course I am a nice person but just dont annoy me too much.

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Dec 29, 2014 20:18:40   #
James Shaw
 
Sweet Willie wrote:
There once was a lady named Wright,
who traveled much faster than light.
She left one day,
In a relative way,
And returned the previous night!
Sweet Willie
Good one!!

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Dec 29, 2014 20:22:51   #
James Shaw
 
Adicus wrote:
We are stuck here (where we belong )for as long as we persist in using rocket type propulsion to get anywhere else.We have to stop using old fashioned engines and stop thinking that the speed of light is the fastest that things can move and then and only then will we get anywhere else that can support our life type. I firmly believe that we will never be allowed to go to any place else in the universe that has civilised beings as we are really not very nice !!! Of course I am a nice person but just dont annoy me too much.
We are stuck here (where we belong )for as long as... (show quote)

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Dec 29, 2014 20:23:47   #
James Shaw
 
Adicus wrote:
We are stuck here (where we belong )for as long as we persist in using rocket type propulsion to get anywhere else.We have to stop using old fashioned engines and stop thinking that the speed of light is the fastest that things can move and then and only then will we get anywhere else that can support our life type. I firmly believe that we will never be allowed to go to any place else in the universe that has civilised beings as we are really not very nice !!! Of course I am a nice person but just dont annoy me too much.
We are stuck here (where we belong )for as long as... (show quote)
Actually, I kind of like it right here.

We are civilized, you say? LOL

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Dec 29, 2014 20:52:29   #
Adicus Loc: New Zealand
 
You like it (in Hiding)James?. I like it here too although my "Here" is a lot nicer than some folks "Here".
I didnt say that we were civilised.

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Dec 29, 2014 21:34:24   #
James Shaw
 
Adicus wrote:
You like it (in Hiding)James?. I like it here too although my "Here" is a lot nicer than some folks "Here".
I didnt say that we were civilised.
Indeed, you did not say we were civilized.

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Dec 29, 2014 21:36:57   #
Adicus Loc: New Zealand
 
I think that some of us think we are though James but it just takes a Rugby match to dispense with that idea, haha

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Dec 29, 2014 23:55:44   #
tradergeorge Loc: Newport, Kentucky
 
bearcat wrote:
Look what technological progress we've made in the last 100 years.

We've still got a few billion years to figure it out, if we don't blow ourselves up, first.

BC


Despite all the amazing technological advances we have made, we still have not figured out how to void those pesky Laws of Physics. Even if we progress and keep learning for thousands of years, we are still not likely to defeat them. So, it is NOT a matter of figuring out how to exceed light speed, or negate gravity, etc. These laws will remain the same until eternity. No amount of watching SCI-FI videos will change that...All the things that have been realized that were fantasy on shows such as Star Trek, etc, still did not require reversing any basic law of physics.

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Dec 30, 2014 00:03:21   #
Adicus Loc: New Zealand
 
Well that's maybe the trouble and we have to stop being constrained by them there laws .

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Dec 30, 2014 00:50:02   #
tradergeorge Loc: Newport, Kentucky
 
Adicus wrote:
Well that's maybe the trouble and we have to stop being constrained by them there laws .


Yeah, well....therein lies the problem....Unlike human made laws, there are very strong consequences for trying to violate the laws of physics. The penalty is usually death and in all the times it has been tried, it has never been successful....Good luck with that!!!!

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Dec 30, 2014 03:58:52   #
Adicus Loc: New Zealand
 
You are correct and you cant mess too much with thermodynamics I just believe that there must be another way without exploding stuff in confined places and our reliance upon the wheel and things that cycle. This is the way our brains work and we need to think differently if we want to explore outer space.Just mt two pennyworth.

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