DennisK Loc: Pickle City,Illinois

Hate to say it,but you sir sound conflicted.

cheineck Loc: Hobe Sound, FL

:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

jcjr8

Can you give us some examples of how you like to think?

drivered Loc: Capital District, NY

I guess I also are politcally shcizoid

mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey

And occasionally each of us, whether we're a liberal, conservative, Democrat, Republican, or socialist, acts like an A** H***. This is to differentiate from those that are A** H**** all the time! :)

drivered Loc: Capital District, NY

Hope you can see my hands waving :o)

DennisK Loc: Pickle City,Illinois

:thumbup: I'm mostly one all the time,but seeing the stupid side of people all the while growing up kind of effects a person.

Radioman Loc: Ontario Canada

It can be risky asking an intelligent question !!!

RichieC Loc: Adirondacks

I am truly and honestly sorry for your loss. And I understand your sentiment. Under special and verifiable circumstances, an abortion of a baby is certainly warranted. I wish it was something a simple as this in your circumstance. Damn cancer.

However, I have thought about this a long time, especially since I have had kids myself. I am not a bible beating conservative at all, and this view has nothing at all to do with any religion- I am not particularly religious!

I've heard all the liberal arguments like rape etc. But intelligent people can agree, that the VAST majority of abortions are not due to rape, or to save a life at all, but of convenience. Abortion ultimately has to do with responsibility. We are held accountable for all of our decisions. You decide to rob a bank, you decide to take a loan for a car- you are held accountable for these decisions. Why should consensual sex be any different? If a stranger plunges a knife into the belly of a pregnant woman, and kills her baby but not the woman , did he commit murder or simply commit abortion? (In addition to assault) To the parents, it was murder, apparently... unless the mother decides it was abortion. Does the father have the right to consider it murder?

I say you have to the first trimester to decide, after that you have made your bed- even if you were raped- you should know by then if you are pregnant. After this point, the B A B Y has all the rights of any other citizen. If it dies because of something you did on purpose, you should be held responsible. If you decide to not feed a baby till it dies AFTER birth is no different then paying someone to kill it after the first trimester.

I do not think a woman has the right to decide what is a baby- pure and simple. OR we could let the court decide that a fetus ( a dehumanizing term used to describe a human being that is under construction in the same manner as one would describe an unborn mouse to make all this more palatable) is not a human till one year after birth. If that is the LAW, then using the same arguments you could abort it any time till then... it is the LAW.

So in a King Salomon styled decision... you get three month's- after that you can give it up to adoption and it will be in a happy family immediately after birth as there is a long waiting line for them. Or you can bring it up yourself- but you will be RESPONSIBLE to properly feeding the baby and taking care of the baby. That is indeed the woman's choice.

So I'm not against a woman's right, I simply can't ignore the rights of a fellow human being.

mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey

Well, at least you're not boring.

amyinsparta Loc: White county, TN

I guess I'm a liberal, if one compares what I believe to the current republican philosophy. I believe that indeed everyone is responsible for his/her own actions in life. However, I also believe that our minds are ruled by our subconsciousness and so it is extremely difficult for us to change much about ourselves without great effort.If we could change easily, I really don't think so many would be so in need, financially, emotionally, physically, etc.

We all have a consciousness level that dictates what we are. And that level is due to the environmental effects on the dna before and after birth. The founder of the Jesuits knew this. He said, "Give me a child until he is seven, and I will give you the man." Our prenatal and early childhood pretty much molds us,and great effort is needed to change what we learned, whether that was love, hate, greed, self loathing, laziness, whatever it is.

So that is where my 'liberalism' comes in. When you see people who are sick because they never took care of themselves, or street kids who carry guns, or those on govt. assistance because they can't cope, or they don't have the intellectual capacity to work, they aren't in that place because they consciously chose to be there. So I do what I can do-give to the charities that help them, send love to them in prayer. And that's why I also think that the least we can do as so-called Christians is to give some of our taxes to help them. At least that money will not be going to some black op experiment or drones. I believe there are basically two emotions-love and a cry for love. Each of us sends out one or both of those messages each second we live and we also pick up those messages each second we live. What we do with them is what makes our own existence what it is. That's why Jesus said to treat others the way you wish to be treated, love your neighbor(every other person); essentially, if you wouldn't like it done to you, then don't do it to anyone else. We may think that this is an impossible task, but that is the ONLY way this world is going to be healed. jmo

Sweet Willie Loc: Texas

A liberal is a conservative that just got arrested.
A conservative is a liberal that just got mugged.
Sweet Willie

jvo Loc: left coast of the east coast

not sure why you're offended? could you elaborate?

jcjr8

I think you're confused about social and political liberalism. Liberalism as the term is commonly used in this country refers to a political ideology. You're clearly not in that camp or you would never have confessed to praying or dared speak the name of Jesus in a public forum such as this at the risk of being accused of hate speech. Social liberalism an an entirely different matter and does embrace all your ideas of reaching out to those in our community who are in need. The problem is that today we allow politicians to pass laws mandating social liberalism which obfuscates the humanity of that action. This makes it an act of necessity rather than charity thus eliminating the need for the recipients to be grateful. This destroys the humanity of gratitude and creates an culture of entitlement. Jesus never taught social entitlement. The odd thing here is that true social liberalism is actually political conservatism that says that each community is responsible for it's own and not the government. Business should be encouraged so that jobs will be created and the need for entitlements reduced so that taxes can be reduced and people will have more money to support the needy in their home community. It's really that simple when you remove the politics from the equation.

jcjr8

I agree with that