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Apr 10, 2024 23:36:13   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
terryMc wrote:
Nevermind why, I want to know how you tell a story in 1/125th of a sec. using one scene...


Best advice I got on that was, "Just go do it. No one can tell you how. You have to figure it out by making it up as you go along. OR, you can storyboard it ahead of time..."

There is a famous photo of a Vietnamese soldier assassinating a prisoner on the street at point blank range in the late 1960s.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42864421

I'm sure it told the story pretty well. Of course, some prose accompanied it. But the scene was so bizarre that a reading alone would have sounded fictional.

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Apr 11, 2024 02:40:03   #
RodeoMan Loc: St Joseph, Missouri
 
gvarner wrote:
We need to read the Admin's rules for the forum. If you want critique, ASK FOR IT. if you give critique, include your rationale. You can find guidelines on-line for judging photos. We had guidelines in our photo club. Knowing them is very helpful in judging your own photos.


I remember a few weeks ago that you expressed some frustration on your part that your photographic abilitity, as.
felt by you, was not improving as you would like. I wonder if your experience in that exchange informed your response in this discussion. I thought there were points made in that series of replies that would also apply to this discussion.

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Apr 11, 2024 02:54:34   #
RodeoMan Loc: St Joseph, Missouri
 
dennis2146 wrote:
I tend to read all of your posts from a negative point of view. Sorry but that is because you come across with negatives in your replies to others. You point out people want an attaboy but I haven't seen anybody who is like that. Of course we all would like positive attention toward what we submit rather than negative but that is only natural. You like positive feedback yourself don't you?

For you to continue posting BS on people who make a mistake on what section the photos should go to I hate to think of you losing sleep contemplating on who might make a silly mistake in parts of the rest of your life taking place. God forbid you should go to a drugstore and find a bottle of 100 aspirin mixed in by mistake where the bottles of 500 aspirin should be. God forbid someone at the post office put a neighbor's mail in your box by mistake once a year or, GASP, maybe even twice. Oh the horror!!!!! People are human beings and as such they/we make mistakes. How unkind of you to make the biggest problem of all over such a simple and common error.

Dennis
I tend to read all of your posts from a negative p... (show quote)


Wouldn't it be good if those of us who wore red caps would show the same consideration to those who wear blue caps and conversely they would show the same consideration back our way. The best way to change the world whether it is politics or photography is to start with ourselves and not the other fellow. I think that you and I both have basically a kindly outlook toward others, but there are others, who will remain unnamed, who could work on giving some other folks some slack.

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Apr 11, 2024 03:20:33   #
RodeoMan Loc: St Joseph, Missouri
 
Horseart wrote:
We raised horses for many years and when someone showed me his new horse, thinking it had a fantastic gait for showing, BUT I thought its gait was not good, I'd simply say "That is one beautiful horse" and just not comment on the gait. If it was not beautiful (almost all horses are) I might say, "He's nice and healthy looking. Someone certainly too good care of this one" or "what a beautiful shiny coat he has".
Same thing with photos. If it's OOF you can still say "Sweet puppy" or "Beautiful flowers". That doesn't mean it's got either, sharp detail or blurry. Just means the subject is nice.
You can always find something nice to say about anything.
We raised horses for many years and when someone s... (show quote)


Jo, I would like to recommend that you go to Youtube and enter Red Steagall The Bay It is about how we all can see things through different eyes and how we can be wrong.

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Apr 11, 2024 03:31:09   #
RodeoMan Loc: St Joseph, Missouri
 
This discussion is having a sad ending. We should remember for many, I don't know how many and who they are, that this forum is as much a place for connecting with others as it is for photographic discussion. Why would we talk to others via our responses in a manner that we never would to their faces?

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Apr 11, 2024 06:53:17   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
RodeoMan wrote:
This discussion is having a sad ending...
Sadly, the longer a topic goes, the more some dig in their heels 'til they lose control completely.

Thankfully, there are thoughtful and well written opinions and observations within these 12 pages. One high note among many is MJPerini's here:
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-804332-9.html#14560822

Best to all.

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Apr 11, 2024 07:05:12   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
terryMc wrote:
I was on a forum once where a lady asked us to critique a picture her daughter had made. It was a woodsy scene with the sun coming through the trees and blowing out the entire middle portion of the picture. I opined that shooting directly into the sun and metering the darker trees was a mistake and that shooting directly into the sun that way did not make for a good image in any case. Remember, she had asked for an "honest critique," but when I gave her one, she immediately began to disagree with everything I said. Another guy came into the discussion saying that it could easily be fixed with Photoshop's Shadow/Highlight thingy, and proceeded to prove himself wrong by trying to do it. They both got more and more caustic until she finally informed me that men just didn't have the ability to see beauty the way that women can...

I gave no more critiques.
I was on a forum once where a lady asked us to cri... (show quote)



I won't critique either. It's MY opinion based on MY perception.
(But I don't care for non-level perceptive horizons.)

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Apr 11, 2024 07:07:06   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
terryMc wrote:
Nevermind why, I want to know how you tell a story in 1/125th of a sec. using one scene...



And why doesn't everyone interpret the same story?

(Perception...)

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Apr 11, 2024 07:15:15   #
dmeyer Loc: Marion, NC
 
Didn't read through all 12 pages of replies, so my thoughts may be redundant. But, offering another perspective as a poster who has shared many travel sets through the years, my reaction to comments have run the gamut:
1-frustration, when someone assumes I know nothing and reworks my image without permission or asking what my goal was (art or reality of the experience);
2-skepticism, at gushing comments for a whole group of images (I'm bound to have some duds in there);
3-irritation, when I see the same pat comment on every post ever made (racking up the head count for messages?);
4-incredulity, as in 'one-comment-fits-all', without bothering to know the circumstances. An instance that comes to mind was when a member stated that the whole point of DSLR was the ability to change lenses in the field, so carrying two body/lens combo on a trip was not necessary/justified. No way am I walking a distance along the ocean shore or the Southwest desert and carrying an extra lens only to open up my camera body in the field to make a lens change that exposes my sensor to a load of grit. (One can't always know what to expect is needed until they get there.)
5-and PLEASURE when friendships develop with those who share their thoughts in a tactful and selective manner.

I have learned a lot about photography and photography equipment from being part of this group, mostly participating in Gallery and Photography Discussion. Though it took a while, I caught on to who added to the conversation to be helpful, and who just wanted to be snarky or self-important. As stated by many others already, the majority of the members are kind and helpful. Each poster has to learn who to be encouraged by, and who to ignore. And each viewer/responder in Gallery just needs to remember that Gallery is an optional sharing experience, like it or leave it alone.

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Apr 11, 2024 07:17:05   #
dmeyer Loc: Marion, NC
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
Sadly, the longer a topic goes, the more some dig in their heels 'til they lose control completely.

Thankfully, there are thoughtful and well written opinions and observations within these 12 pages. One high note among many is MJPerini's here:
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-804332-9.html#14560822

Best to all.


Agreed.

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Apr 11, 2024 07:44:48   #
BebuLamar
 
I guess that is why some post their photos in the Main Photography section.

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Apr 11, 2024 07:48:14   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
BebuLamar wrote:
I guess that is why some post their photos in the Main Photography section.

I'll put greater odds on them not paying attention to the default category that shows up,
which appears to be the category one last viewed.

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Apr 11, 2024 07:55:50   #
imagextrordinair Loc: Halden, Norway
 
If everyone in the third grade gets a trophy for the sake of inclusion, then those with lesser skill will never improve. The smarter kids that deserve recognition will loose interest when the all-inclusive reward system becomes meaningless.

Giving praise without merit to everything you see reflects on you as a poor judge of your own character.

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Apr 11, 2024 08:02:08   #
BebuLamar
 
imagextrordinair wrote:
If everyone in the third grade gets a trophy for the sake of inclusion, then those with lesser skill will never improve. The smarter kids that deserve recognition will loose interest when the all-inclusive reward system becomes meaningless.

Giving praise without merit to everything you see reflects on you as a poor judge of your own character.


I have a choice of not doing anything here on the UHH and I chose it. Nobody knows. However, if the situation is real life and peope showing me their pictures I would much rather make them happy than try to improve their skill. Right or wrong that is what I would do.

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Apr 11, 2024 08:07:08   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
imagextrordinair wrote:
If everyone in the third grade gets a trophy for the sake of inclusion, then those with lesser skill will never improve. The smarter kids that deserve recognition will loose interest when the all-inclusive reward system becomes meaningless.

Giving praise without merit to everything you see reflects on you as a poor judge of your own character.

But what if one likes the image, visually, not being based on analysis of technicalities?
I do that a lot.
The image either appeals to me or it dun't.

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