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Nov 5, 2023 09:45:35   #
dbjazz Loc: Long Island, NY
 
Standard Time is called Standard Time for a reason. It is the original gauge of time (with the advent of railroads) used all over the world. Daylight Savings Time makes no sense and relatively few countries bother with it. But idiots in Congress don't know any history and can't understand science. So we're doomed.

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Nov 5, 2023 09:48:52   #
markngolf Loc: Bridgewater, NJ
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I have to ask. What would you prefer in terms of our clocks? The current system, in my opinion, is absolutely ridiculous. Politicians are trying to decide when and if they should do something, but they don't know what to do. They seem to be leaning toward year-round DST.

This is not something that should be determined by public opinion. According to science and medical studies, permanent DST would be a bad idea. The best approach would be to live on "Normal Time." I don't think we'll be seeing that in my lifetime, though.

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I suggest any and all opinions have already been stated twice a year, every year since my first subscription in 2013. Wow!! Some have 10 clocks to change. People are dying in the Middle East. Please finish this topic!
Mark

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Nov 5, 2023 09:49:59   #
BebuLamar
 
dbjazz wrote:
Standard Time is called Standard Time for a reason. It is the original gauge of time (with the advent of railroads) used all over the world. Daylight Savings Time makes no sense and relatively few countries bother with it. But idiots in Congress don't know any history and can't understand science. So we're doomed.


Yes I strongly against making daylight savings time permanent.

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Nov 5, 2023 10:00:24   #
Schoee Loc: Europe
 
dbjazz wrote:
Standard Time is called Standard Time for a reason. It is the original gauge of time (with the advent of railroads) used all over the world. Daylight Savings Time makes no sense and relatively few countries bother with it. But idiots in Congress don't know any history and can't understand science. So we're doomed.


It does make some sense or no one would do it. Makes little difference if close to equator but otherwise over 60 countries do it

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Nov 5, 2023 10:01:59   #
sodapop Loc: Bel Air, MD
 
markngolf wrote:
I suggest any and all opinions have already been stated twice a year, every year since my first subscription in 2013. Wow!! Some have 10 clocks to change. People are dying in the Middle East. Please finish this topic!
Mark



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Nov 5, 2023 10:06:43   #
markngolf Loc: Bridgewater, NJ
 
sodapop wrote:
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Thanks sodapop!!
Mark

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Nov 5, 2023 10:13:34   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
markngolf wrote:
I suggest any and all opinions have already been stated twice a year, every year since my first subscription in 2013. Wow!! Some have 10 clocks to change. People are dying in the Middle East. Please finish this topic!
Mark


A well considered perspective.

One reason for DST is so that school children can board buses after dawn. Another is so people who work outdoors have more light, later, on their day shifts. Another is so we have more outdoor recreational time in the evening during summer months. There are many more.

We would hear screams and howls of protest were we to take those advantages away from those they help. This is a "We can't win" issue. Now I have to go reset my clocks...

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Nov 5, 2023 10:21:37   #
markngolf Loc: Bridgewater, NJ
 
burkphoto wrote:
A well considered perspective.

One reason for DST is so that school children can board buses after dawn. Another is so people who work outdoors have more light, later, on their day shifts. Another is so we have more outdoor recreational time in the evening during summer months. There are many more.

We would hear screams and howls of protest were we to take those advantages away from those they help. This is a "We can't win" issue. Now I have to go reset my clocks...
A well considered perspective. br br One reason f... (show quote)


You are right, Bill. there are some valid reasons. I'm only suggesting we stop moaning & groaning about it twice a year.
Mark

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Nov 5, 2023 10:31:02   #
FrumCA
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I have to ask. What would you prefer in terms of our clocks? The current system, in my opinion, is absolutely ridiculous. Politicians are trying to decide when and if they should do something, but they don't know what to do. They seem to be leaning toward year-round DST.

This is not something that should be determined by public opinion. According to science and medical studies, permanent DST would be a bad idea. The best approach would be to live on "Normal Time." I don't think we'll be seeing that in my lifetime, though.

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I have to ask. What would you prefer in terms of ... (show quote)

No scientific reason but my gut feeling is a preference towards permanent DST which would become "normal time" once everyone settled into the routine.

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Nov 5, 2023 10:48:58   #
1grumpybear
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I have to ask. What would you prefer in terms of our clocks? The current system, in my opinion, is absolutely ridiculous. Politicians are trying to decide when and if they should do something, but they don't know what to do. They seem to be leaning toward year-round DST.

This is not something that should be determined by public opinion. According to science and medical studies, permanent DST would be a bad idea. The best approach would be to live on "Normal Time." I don't think we'll be seeing that in my lifetime, though.

Opinions?
I have to ask. What would you prefer in terms of ... (show quote)


Here in Arizona we don't do daylight savings time any more. Back when we were doing daylight savings time I can remember going to the drive inn theater and the movie wouldn't start till about 9:30pm.

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Nov 5, 2023 10:49:08   #
hcmcdole
 
Schoee wrote:
What about one time zone for all the US? Some other large countries that would occupy several time zones have mandated just one time for the whole country. Could make things simple.


I like that idea and wished the entire world would just go to an international date and time. Forget about the sunrise and sunset as a standard of time of day (the old farmer's time legacy).

When I was in the Navy a lifetime ago, not only did we have DST, but aboard the ship I was on we had "summer hours" which meant reporting to duty an hour earlier. That meant I got off around 3 PM for the rest of the day, unless it was my duty day.

I prefer using international time, whether Zulu or GMT and adjust our work day, school day, appointments accordingly. I know this would confuse most people on how to set their clocks, but once done, it would be like eating cake.

Midnight is the same no matter where on earth you are. Seven AM is the same no matter where you are. The only difference is the arbitrary time you set for a schedule. If you are in EST and you had to be at work at 8 for example, now you would have to be there at 8 + time offset from GMT which in the east would be 8 + 5 = 13:00 or 1 PM GMT. Sounds hard to begin with, but over time, it would be simple to get with the program.

When communicating with folks in different time zones, we have to do a lot of mental gymnastics to get our schedules to coordinate with theirs. We had a vendor from Israel and had to interface with them at times so it was important to agree on time and time zone.

The same could be said for international travel. Thailand is around 12 hours apart from us but they are on the west side of the international date line. This is important when returning from Bangkok around midnight (Thailand time) to know what date you need to be there for your flight (this happened to one of our relatives who missed her flight as she showed up a day late). Similarly, Okinawa is one of the last time zones of the new day, so it was easier to NOT miss your flight if you didn't keep up with the local time and date.

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Nov 5, 2023 12:28:27   #
jimneotech Loc: Michigan
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I have to ask. What would you prefer in terms of our clocks? The current system, in my opinion, is absolutely ridiculous. Politicians are trying to decide when and if they should do something, but they don't know what to do. They seem to be leaning toward year-round DST.

This is not something that should be determined by public opinion. According to science and medical studies, permanent DST would be a bad idea. The best approach would be to live on "Normal Time." I don't think we'll be seeing that in my lifetime, though.

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I have to ask. What would you prefer in terms of ... (show quote)


I have to agree. DST is nothing but a disruption to our Circadian rhythms.

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Nov 5, 2023 12:49:59   #
Nodpete Loc: Naperville, IL
 
Stay with Standard Time, just another thing that the damn government should keep their hands off of.

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Nov 5, 2023 12:51:55   #
fetzler Loc: North West PA
 
Shellback wrote:
They tried DST in 1974 – but while the experiment initially proved popular, with 79 percent of Americans expressing support for the change in December 1973, approval quickly plummeted, dropping to 42 percent by February 1974. The main drawback to pushing the clock forward permanently was the prolonged early-morning darkness in the winter, which left children heading to school when it was “jet black” outside. Eight students in Florida died in traffic accidents in the weeks following the change; in the nation’s capital and its surrounding suburbs, similar incidents led some schools to delay classes until the sun came up. In October 1974, President Gerald Ford signed legislation reversing permanent daylight saving time. The history is there, but is forgotten already...
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IF there were DST in Winter in the location in Michigan where I grew up one could see stars at 9:00 AM - sucks.
Standard time all year would be OK.

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Nov 5, 2023 12:53:49   #
Nodpete Loc: Naperville, IL
 
fetzler wrote:
IF there were DST in Winter in the location in Michigan where I grew up one could see stars at 9:00 AM - sucks.
Standard time all year would be OK.


I grew up in the UP of Michigan and we went to school in the dark and came home in the dark.

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