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Nov 4, 2023 09:47:32   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
I have to ask. What would you prefer in terms of our clocks? The current system, in my opinion, is absolutely ridiculous. Politicians are trying to decide when and if they should do something, but they don't know what to do. They seem to be leaning toward year-round DST.

This is not something that should be determined by public opinion. According to science and medical studies, permanent DST would be a bad idea. The best approach would be to live on "Normal Time." I don't think we'll be seeing that in my lifetime, though.

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Nov 4, 2023 09:54:56   #
BebuLamar
 
I want standard time period. Daylight savings time for half the year is bad enough, forever is worst. About the medical effect it doesn't matter as you can always change the time you start and end your activities (whatever that is school, work or walking your dog).

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Nov 4, 2023 10:03:19   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
EST, for time zone continuity.

But I just go with the change... No biggie.

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Nov 4, 2023 10:22:27   #
bc6977 Loc: WV.
 
Why not just move the clock back thirty minutes and not change it again until the second Tuesday of next week?

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Nov 4, 2023 10:32:17   #
sgt hop Loc: baltimore md,now in salisbury md
 
vote for standard time.......

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Nov 4, 2023 12:07:45   #
Shellback Loc: North of Cheyenne Bottoms Wetlands - Kansas
 
They tried DST in 1974 – but while the experiment initially proved popular, with 79 percent of Americans expressing support for the change in December 1973, approval quickly plummeted, dropping to 42 percent by February 1974. The main drawback to pushing the clock forward permanently was the prolonged early-morning darkness in the winter, which left children heading to school when it was “jet black” outside. Eight students in Florida died in traffic accidents in the weeks following the change; in the nation’s capital and its surrounding suburbs, similar incidents led some schools to delay classes until the sun came up. In October 1974, President Gerald Ford signed legislation reversing permanent daylight saving time. The history is there, but is forgotten already...

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Nov 4, 2023 12:18:16   #
bobmcculloch Loc: NYC, NY
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I have to ask. What would you prefer in terms of our clocks? The current system, in my opinion, is absolutely ridiculous. Politicians are trying to decide when and if they should do something, but they don't know what to do. They seem to be leaning toward year-round DST.

This is not something that should be determined by public opinion. According to science and medical studies, permanent DST would be a bad idea. The best approach would be to live on "Normal Time." I don't think we'll be seeing that in my lifetime, though.

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I have to ask. What would you prefer in terms of ... (show quote)


Changing is a PIA!

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Nov 4, 2023 12:46:29   #
markngolf Loc: Bridgewater, NJ
 
Shellback wrote:
They tried DST in 1974 – but while the experiment initially proved popular, with 79 percent of Americans expressing support for the change in December 1973, approval quickly plummeted, dropping to 42 percent by February 1974. The main drawback to pushing the clock forward permanently was the prolonged early-morning darkness in the winter, which left children heading to school when it was “jet black” outside. Eight students in Florida died in traffic accidents in the weeks following the change; in the nation’s capital and its surrounding suburbs, similar incidents led some schools to delay classes until the sun came up. In October 1974, President Gerald Ford signed legislation reversing permanent daylight saving time. The history is there, but is forgotten already...
They tried DST in 1974 – but while the experiment ... (show quote)


I seem to recall that was during the gas shortage. I was teaching my first two classes and it was still dark outside.
Mark

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Nov 4, 2023 13:48:19   #
ecblackiii Loc: Maryland
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I have to ask. What would you prefer in terms of our clocks? The current system, in my opinion, is absolutely ridiculous. Politicians are trying to decide when and if they should do something, but they don't know what to do. They seem to be leaning toward year-round DST.

This is not something that should be determined by public opinion. According to science and medical studies, permanent DST would be a bad idea. The best approach would be to live on "Normal Time." I don't think we'll be seeing that in my lifetime, though.

Opinions?
I have to ask. What would you prefer in terms of ... (show quote)


DST was proposed as early as 1784. It became US law in 1918. My only complaint is that the clocks change back and forth each year. I prefer DST all year long, every year so I get an extra hour of sunlight in the afternoon/evening. All the excuses for going back to standard time --e.g., chickens and cows not knowing when to wake up, children having to go to school before daylight (as opposed to coming home in the dark) are just silly. If DST exists year-round, there is no need for changes in circadian rhythm and everyone gets used to it.

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Nov 4, 2023 14:14:14   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
ecblackiii wrote:
DST was proposed as early as 1784. It became US law in 1918. My only complaint is that the clocks change back and forth each year. I prefer DST all year long, every year so I get an extra hour of sunlight in the afternoon/evening. All the excuses for going back to standard time --e.g., chickens and cows not knowing when to wake up, children having to go to school before daylight (as opposed to coming home in the dark) are just silly. If DST exists year-round, there is no need for changes in circadian rhythm and everyone gets used to it.
DST was proposed as early as 1784. It became US la... (show quote)

If EST was year round, people would get used to that also.
With no need for changes in circadian rhythm either.

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Nov 4, 2023 14:45:17   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I have to ask. What would you prefer in terms of our clocks? The current system, in my opinion, is absolutely ridiculous. Politicians are trying to decide when and if they should do something, but they don't know what to do. They seem to be leaning toward year-round DST.

This is not something that should be determined by public opinion. According to science and medical studies, permanent DST would be a bad idea. The best approach would be to live on "Normal Time." I don't think we'll be seeing that in my lifetime, though.

Opinions?
I have to ask. What would you prefer in terms of ... (show quote)


STs (Standard Time Zones). I am assuming that is what (Earth) astronomy is based on. 1 hour / 15 degrees longitude. Changing clocks makes no sense in 2023. Perhaps it did in 1923.

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Nov 4, 2023 14:59:46   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
bobmcculloch wrote:
Changing is a PIA!


How many clocks do you have to change? I have two clocks and a watch, and it takes less than 5 minutes to change them. Everything else is connected to the internet and change automatically. I have many things in my life that are much more of a PIA. I just leave my cameras on standard time as it doesn't matter to me if the time on my photos is an hour off half the year.

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Nov 4, 2023 15:11:52   #
neillaubenthal
 
Longshadow wrote:
EST, for time zone continuity.

But I just go with the change... No biggie.


Me too…although TBH they could standardize on either one all the time and it wouldn’t bother me. If there’s an issue with school buses being out before dawn…then move school hours, but that would result in them being out after dark…and the number of hours of daylight isn’t something that can be legislated around.

The time on the clock is just a number anyway…and although I’m ok with just changing every six months the same one year round would be just fine.and if it was me I would split the difference and set a half hour off from standard. There are states and countries that do that already and the world hasn’t need because of it. People would get used to being a half hour off.

There really isn’t any solution to this problem anyway…I can see why DST and regular were invented and both have pros and cons…which is why we are still switching.

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Nov 4, 2023 15:11:53   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
I have about a dozen all told.
No big deal. It corrects the time if they are a minute or two off also and they are all in sync again.
The heat thermostats I leave on EST and the A/C thermostat I leave on DST.
So the heat thermostats are "off kilter" for a month, no big deal.

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Nov 4, 2023 16:40:36   #
SteveFranz Loc: Durham, NC
 
What is 'Normal' time?

Depends on where in the time zone you are living. Sunrise in the eastern part of the time zone will be at a significantly earlier time than sunrise in the western part of the time zone.

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