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Dec 28, 2022 19:38:07   #
Canisdirus
 
dwmoar wrote:
He who dies is just dead and the most toys don't matter


Which is exactly why those who apply themselves well in life...go after the toys.

Everyone understands that the only permanence in this world is...being temporary.

Why you don't wait...if you ... don't have to.

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Dec 28, 2022 20:37:53   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
Canisdirus wrote:
They are both capable camera bodies.

Sony has more native glass...way more.
Sony has more third party options...because of the very same reason...they have been doing it longer...and so have the third party lens manufacturers (for Sony E mount).

It doesn't mean you cannot flush out your glass desires with Nikon...just less choices.


The most overblown reason of all for choosing one camera over another.

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Dec 28, 2022 20:57:41   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
ORpilot wrote:
There are no bad choices out there. I would recommend renting both cameras. Many rental companies let you buy your rental at a discount. I may be wrong with the new Nikon models but many of the Nikon sensors were made by Sony. My thought was: why not just stick with the source...Sony.... in the first place. I use to own the a7iii and moved to a used a9. But today I might recommend the a7c over the a7iii because it has a faster focus. No bad choices out there. Note: the a7iii is excellent with low light and star shots.
There are no bad choices out there. I would recomm... (show quote)


Sony makes sensors for many applications. The sensors they make for Nikon are Nikon designs and that includes the Z9. The manufacturer of the sensor wouldn’t be a reason I bought a particular camera. I wouldn’t be surprised if Sony used Nikon equipment for making some of the chips they use in their cameras.

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Dec 28, 2022 21:27:20   #
steveo52 Loc: Rhode Island and Ocala Florida
 
dwmoar wrote:
He who dies is just dead and the most toys don't matter


Yea, you got that right.

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Dec 28, 2022 21:29:45   #
Canisdirus
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
The most overblown reason of all for choosing one camera over another.


Yeah...optics in photography...such an overblown topic.

A great lens can shine on an average camera body.

An average lens will not shine on a great camera body.

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Dec 29, 2022 00:03:06   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
Canisdirus wrote:
Yeah...optics in photography...such an overblown topic.

A great lens can shine on an average camera body.

An average lens will not shine on a great camera body.


Yeah, but you were talking quantity of lenses, not quality. I can’t speak to the quality of Sony’s lenses, though I understand they are very good. I can say that all of my Z mount lenses are excellent.

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Dec 29, 2022 00:27:40   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
dwmoar wrote:
He who dies is just dead and the most toys don't matter


You got that right. But they might matter to their heirs if they can use them.

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Dec 29, 2022 01:17:36   #
ORpilot Loc: Prineville, Or
 
Those that only eat hamburgers and french fries will never enjoy lobster, prime rib, green vegetables and the many enjoyable edible tastes of life. Expand your horizons and discover that the world is not flat.

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Dec 29, 2022 01:42:38   #
gwilliams6
 
Nikon Z6 II vs Sony A7 III – The 10 main differences
https://mirrorlesscomparison.com/sony-vs-nikon/z6-ii-vs-a7-iii/

Sony A7III vs Nikon Z6 II - Full Frame Hybrid Comparison
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pchGX5BAQHI

Nikon Z6ii VS Sony a7iii - Which One You Should Go For?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBj8LnXHSWU

Mirrorless-designed lenses are generally lighter and more compact than DSLR-designed lenses ,especially wide angle lenses, due in part to the shorter flange distance of mirrorless cameras. And newer mirrorless-designed lenses can offer more modern optical designs with more modern focus motor tech.

FYI, in terms of mirrorless-designed lenses there are over 200 native E-mount lenses available from Sony, Sigma, Tamron, Samyang/Rokinon, Zeiss, Tokina, Viltrox, Yongnuo, Meike and others in all price ranges, and that do not require any lens adaptors.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Sony_E-mount_lenses

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_third-party_Sony_E-mount_lenses


Nikon is still filling out its mirrorless-designed Z-mount lens lineup and has far fewer options. To its credit Nikon is starting to partner with Tamron on some mirrorless-designed Z-mount lenses:

https://www.nikonusa.com/en/nikon-products/camera-lenses/mirrorless-lenses/overview.page

Cheers and best to you.

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Dec 29, 2022 03:46:32   #
Canisdirus
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
Yeah, but you were talking quantity of lenses, not quality. I can’t speak to the quality of Sony’s lenses, though I understand they are very good. I can say that all of my Z mount lenses are excellent.


I am talking availability...it's a matter of numbers...yes.

But don't think there is more quantity OR quality anywhere else other than Sony...which has STELLAR lenses.

Sony has the deepest line...Sony has everything from kit to knock ur socks off in almost every category of lenses.

Nikon simply doesn't. They switched later...much later...and naturally have less options.

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Dec 29, 2022 07:47:59   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
Canisdirus wrote:
I am talking availability...it's a matter of numbers...yes.

But don't think there is more quantity OR quality anywhere else other than Sony...which has STELLAR lenses.

Sony has the deepest line...Sony has everything from kit to knock ur socks off in almost every category of lenses.

Nikon simply doesn't. They switched later...much later...and naturally have less options.


I love how you switch up. When called out on your Bull you try to spin it. And if you include adapted lenses Nikon gives you over 240 options. And like I said, the lens thing is overblown. Actually adapted lenses really opens things up with the Nikon because I can use all those Sony lenses with an adapter.

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Dec 29, 2022 07:52:23   #
Canisdirus
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
I love how you switch up. When called out on your Bull you try to spin it. And if you include adapted lenses Nikon gives you over 240 options. And like I said, the lens thing is overblown. Actually adapted lenses really opens things up with the Nikon because I can use all those Sony lenses with an adapter.


What on Earth are you talking about.
Go back...re-read my first comment...nothing has changed.

I'm not going to bother with vintage glass that doesn't hold up...and uses adapters.
I did not include anything from Sony's A-mount line for the very same reason.

We are talking about mirrorless here...not vintage glass.

There are a FEW gems out there from the past that can compete...but they are rare...and usually expensive.

Sony has the edge here...clearly. Simply because they have been at it longer.

Now that I have basically repeated myself...

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Dec 29, 2022 11:47:20   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
Canisdirus wrote:
What on Earth are you talking about.
Go back...re-read my first comment...nothing has changed.

I'm not going to bother with vintage glass that doesn't hold up...and uses adapters.
I did not include anything from Sony's A-mount line for the very same reason.

We are talking about mirrorless here...not vintage glass.

There are a FEW gems out there from the past that can compete...but they are rare...and usually expensive.

Sony has the edge here...clearly. Simply because they have been at it longer.

Now that I have basically repeated myself...
What on Earth are you talking about. br Go back...... (show quote)


And I still say that the lens availability argument is overblown. And actually I’m using Sony glass on my Z9. It’s not vintage. It’s the 200-600mm which from my point of view is the one important lens still lacking in the Nikon Z mount line-up.

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Dec 29, 2022 13:39:59   #
Canisdirus
 
Now you are flipping back again to your original comment.

You are wasting my time.

Once again... a great lens can shine on an average body.

A great body will not shine with an average lens.

When in doubt...invest in glass.

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Dec 29, 2022 13:58:36   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
Canisdirus wrote:
Now you are flipping back again to your original comment.

You are wasting my time.

Once again... a great lens can shine on an average body.

A great body will not shine with an average lens.

When in doubt...invest in glass.


Because my original comment was correct.

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