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Dec 23, 2021 11:55:25   #
Davethehiker Loc: South West Pennsylvania
 
Real Nikon Lover wrote:
Merry Christmas! You took the words out of my mouth. The indexing is something I also experienced on two new SSD installs. Had same problem with conventional SATA drives.

Santa is bringing me 3 new stand alone 8TB SSDs (Costco deal) to start a massive backup project 20 years in the making. Ho Ho Ho


Wow, THREE 8TB!

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Dec 23, 2021 12:33:16   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
Davethehiker wrote:
I have the version LrC that takes advantage of the M1 chip. I went all out and bought 8TB of SSM, etc.

Maybe I'm doing something wrong but it not fast! I made the decision to move my photos into the new computer independent of LR. I thought this would be an opportunity to get rid of a lot of junk and broken links.

I thought because everything was in solid state memory that it would be blinding fast. Not so! Importing selected image into LR is painfully slow! Maybe I'm doing something wrong? I select hundreds of photos at a time and give the a broad title like "Scotland Vacation." It's very slow. I turned off my Time Machine back up SW be cause I thought maybe that was slowing me down. Still slow......
I have the version LrC that takes advantage of the... (show quote)


Transferring from an external drive, the transfer speed is limited by the external drive speed.

Will you please quantify a little bit? How slow is slow? 30 Sec? 30 minutes? How many MB are those 100 pictures?

For example IF those are 24 MexPix raw files, 100 x 24 Mex pix = 2.4 GB it could take some amount of seconds to transfer.

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Dec 23, 2021 13:09:40   #
MJPerini
 
Your Machine should be VERY VERY Fast, once everything is ingested. As I understand it You are placing all you photo files in a new directory system on the internal storage. Then you will create a lightroom catalog, on the same internal storage from a subset of your Master image database file =is that correct?
Things like making previews can slow the process down, but once done should make the experience better.
Because your machine is very fast with lots of cores it has the potential to be very fast if the software is optimized for the multiple cores. I do not use Lightroom but when adobe says it is optimized, do they say how many cores it is written to use? In General Video software tends to take better advantage of hardware, but you machine should be very fast. Let it finish and then reevaluate. Good luck

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Dec 23, 2021 13:26:37   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
Najataagihe wrote:
It is not your computer that is slow, it is the data transfer rate between your computer and whatever device from which you are importing it.

Get back with us after you get everything imported and sorted.


It doesn’t matter if you have an Olympic-sized swimming pool.

Filling it with a garden hose is going to take a while.


When finished filling it, it is a marvel to behold.

While filling (loading) it, not so much.


Patience, Grasshopper.


Merry Christmas!


It is not your computer that is slow, it is the da... (show quote)



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Dec 23, 2021 14:09:50   #
stan0301 Loc: Colorado
 
Why don't you import what ever it is you are actually working on into the computer's internal drive, work on it, and then save to your external and purge your internal drive (that's what I do)

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Dec 23, 2021 14:14:37   #
PHRubin Loc: Nashville TN USA
 
This may not be your problem, but I noticed that when moving photos around internally on my hard drive, if I had a cloud backup running such as Amazon Photos, it could dramatically slow down everything.

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Dec 23, 2021 14:15:09   #
Davethehiker Loc: South West Pennsylvania
 
Gene51 wrote:
He said his drive is internal - no USB - Like yourself, I thought if he had externals, that was surely the problem.



Good grief, is Gene51 is the only who takes the time to read the question!?

Importing the images takes a bit longer than I expected. Not only that but I occasionally get the "spinning beach ball of death!" The good news it's now easier and quicker to force the computer off and reboot.

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Dec 23, 2021 14:19:33   #
Davethehiker Loc: South West Pennsylvania
 
MJPerini wrote:
Your Machine should be VERY VERY Fast, once everything is ingested. As I understand it You are placing all you photo files in a new directory system on the internal storage. Then you will create a lightroom catalog, on the same internal storage from a subset of your Master image database file =is that correct?
Things like making previews can slow the process down, but once done should make the experience better.
Because your machine is very fast with lots of cores it has the potential to be very fast if the software is optimized for the multiple cores. I do not use Lightroom but when adobe says it is optimized, do they say how many cores it is written to use? In General Video software tends to take better advantage of hardware, but you machine should be very fast. Let it finish and then reevaluate. Good luck
Your Machine should be VERY VERY Fast, once everyt... (show quote)


Yep, YOU understand. It is very fast working with indexed files. It's the indexing process that is slow. It will be worth when I'm done. I'm about half way.

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Dec 23, 2021 14:43:01   #
Davethehiker Loc: South West Pennsylvania
 
PHRubin wrote:
This may not be your problem, but I noticed that when moving photos around internally on my hard drive, if I had a cloud backup running such as Amazon Photos, it could dramatically slow down everything.


I thought of that. I do not backup via the Internet, but I do have LAN based connection backing up to a RAID. I could turn the RAID off to make sure it's not performing incremental backups while I'm working. I could turn off the RAID, and see if that helps.

It seems to be blinding fast with indexed images, It's just that the indexing takes a while. Adobe has just recently offered LR to accommodate the M1 chip. There could be some bugs that will be worked out soon.

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Dec 23, 2021 14:49:58   #
Markag
 
Davethehiker wrote:
EVERYTHING is internal to the computer. Data is transferring on the internal BUSS. There is no USB, firewire, or any bottle next like that. It's easy to include some wrong subject images when looking over tens of thousands of images at the same time. LR is good at letting you recover from such errors. I'm learning.


If, by chance, you DIDN'T disable Icloud, you may be copying files to Apple as well.

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Dec 23, 2021 15:46:36   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
Markag wrote:
If, by chance, you DIDN'T disable Icloud, you may be copying files to Apple as well.


I am sure Apple will be sending a lot of emails and reminders that he needs to by more space on iCloud if he is.

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Dec 23, 2021 18:29:36   #
Davethehiker Loc: South West Pennsylvania
 
letmedance wrote:
I am sure Apple will be sending a lot of emails and reminders that he needs to by more space on iCloud if he is.


I live on a mountain top in the woods. I'm lucky if I get 30 MBPS. I back up using the LAN in my home to RAID upstairs in my bedroom. There are NO fiber optic cable companies available to me. I use my radio connection to a cell phone tower. On a very cold night in the wee hours, I might hit 40 MBPS.

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Dec 23, 2021 19:20:30   #
Davethehiker Loc: South West Pennsylvania
 
LrC is working so fast now on the newly indexed images that it's a game changer. It's no effort now to quickly find and export an image. See attached photo of a deer I took out my window using an 840mm lens.


(Download)

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Dec 23, 2021 20:05:25   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Davethehiker wrote:
LrC is working so fast now on the newly indexed images that it's a game changer. It's no effort now to quickly find and export an image. See attached photo of a deer I took out my window using an 840mm lens.


Yes, these are game changers for many of us. The speed and fluidity of them is a welcome change. Just hold down the left or right arrow key to scroll through your images in LrC. They fly by so quickly, you can barely see them, even if you are using large thumbnails.

Exports to full size files from LrC take trivial amounts of time.

The great thing about Apple Silicon is that memory management is so efficient, you can keep 15 to 20 apps open all the time with no apparent slowdowns in 90% of cases. Only when I need all resources focused on a task like video rendering in Final Cut do I shut everything else down.

Glad to hear you got it working properly!

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Dec 23, 2021 20:48:01   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
Davethehiker wrote:
I live on a mountain top in the woods. I'm lucky if I get 30 MBPS. I back up using the LAN in my home to RAID upstairs in my bedroom. There are NO fiber optic cable companies available to me. I use my radio connection to a cell phone tower. On a very cold night in the wee hours, I might hit 40 MBPS.


I could not survive on that connection, I would be bald by now from hair pulling. I do not know have a lot of raid experience but I believe that a really good raid backup " 10" requires at least 4 drives. That means the computer will be writing to more than one disk which means longer data transfer, add to that the limits of the LAN device in your home may not match the speed of your latest Mac.

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