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Dec 22, 2021 13:03:15   #
Davethehiker Loc: South West Pennsylvania
 
I have the version LrC that takes advantage of the M1 chip. I went all out and bought 8TB of SSM, etc.

Maybe I'm doing something wrong but it not fast! I made the decision to move my photos into the new computer independent of LR. I thought this would be an opportunity to get rid of a lot of junk and broken links.

I thought because everything was in solid state memory that it would be blinding fast. Not so! Importing selected image into LR is painfully slow! Maybe I'm doing something wrong? I select hundreds of photos at a time and give the a broad title like "Scotland Vacation." It's very slow. I turned off my Time Machine back up SW be cause I thought maybe that was slowing me down. Still slow......

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Dec 22, 2021 13:06:16   #
luvmypets Loc: Born & raised Texan living in Fayetteville NC
 
Just out of curiosity, what amount of RAM did you get?

Dodie

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Dec 22, 2021 13:08:07   #
Davethehiker Loc: South West Pennsylvania
 
64GB (the max)

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Dec 22, 2021 13:12:19   #
luvmypets Loc: Born & raised Texan living in Fayetteville NC
 
Davethehiker wrote:
64GB (the max)


Thank you!! That's what I am planning for my next computer.

Dodie

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Dec 22, 2021 13:19:31   #
gouldopfl
 
As a programmer even if you have 64 gigs of Ram doesn't mean it doesn't swap parts it isn't using to a temp directory that the program creates on your disk or ssd. I don't know what kind of SSD's you have, but Samsung has been accused of putting older and slower chips in some of the high-end models.

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Dec 22, 2021 13:40:44   #
DWU2 Loc: Phoenix Arizona area
 
Maybe this will be helpful: https://www.lightroomqueen.com/lightroom-performance-complete-series-optimizing-lightrooms-speed/

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Dec 22, 2021 14:16:39   #
Najataagihe
 
Davethehiker wrote:
I made the decision to move my photos into the new computer...


It is not your computer that is slow, it is the data transfer rate between your computer and whatever device from which you are importing it.

Get back with us after you get everything imported and sorted.


It doesn’t matter if you have an Olympic-sized swimming pool.

Filling it with a garden hose is going to take a while.


When finished filling it, it is a marvel to behold.

While filling (loading) it, not so much.


Patience, Grasshopper.


Merry Christmas!



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Dec 22, 2021 14:26:54   #
Davethehiker Loc: South West Pennsylvania
 
I may have discovered my problem? When I store my images I put them in a tree structure on my SSD, Year, Month, day. I was looking a full years of photographs (well over 5000 images including a lot of raw files.). Now I doing a month at a times. It still grinding away.

I select generic wide reaching search terms first like "hummingbird, Scotland, France, Texas trip, etc. Later I can get more specific.

Edit:
I just imported 1160 hummingbird photos at one time. Some other types of photo also got moved into LR with them. I just removed them form LR but the are still on the SSD. LR is forgiving if you are careful.

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Dec 22, 2021 14:29:57   #
JBRIII
 
Najataagihe wrote:
It is not your computer that is slow, it is the data transfer rate between your computer and whatever device from which you are importing it.

Get back with us after you get everything imported and sorted.


It doesn’t matter if you have an Olympic-sized swimming pool.

Filling it with a garden hose is going to take a while.


When finished filling it, it is a marvel to behold.

While filling (loading) it, not so much.


Patience, Grasshopper.


Merry Christmas!


It is not your computer that is slow, it is the da... (show quote)


USB drives can be very slow to move data. Never really noticed until I needed them for a telescope, takes quite some time to move 250GB of photos.

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Dec 22, 2021 14:44:04   #
Davethehiker Loc: South West Pennsylvania
 
Najataagihe wrote:
It is not your computer that is slow, it is the data transfer rate between your computer and whatever device from which you are importing it.

Get back with us after you get everything imported and sorted.


It doesn’t matter if you have an Olympic-sized swimming pool.

Filling it with a garden hose is going to take a while.


When finished filling it, it is a marvel to behold.

While filling (loading) it, not so much.


Patience, Grasshopper.


Merry Christmas!


It is not your computer that is slow, it is the da... (show quote)


EVERYTHING is internal to the computer. Data is transferring on the internal BUSS. There is no USB, firewire, or any bottle next like that. It's easy to include some wrong subject images when looking over tens of thousands of images at the same time. LR is good at letting you recover from such errors. I'm learning.

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Dec 22, 2021 14:44:36   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Davethehiker wrote:
I have the version LrC that takes advantage of the M1 chip. I went all out and bought 8TB of SSM, etc.

Maybe I'm doing something wrong but it not fast! I made the decision to move my photos into the new computer independent of LR. I thought this would be an opportunity to get rid of a lot of junk and broken links.

I thought because everything was in solid state memory that it would be blinding fast. Not so! Importing selected image into LR is painfully slow! Maybe I'm doing something wrong? I select hundreds of photos at a time and give the a broad title like "Scotland Vacation." It's very slow. I turned off my Time Machine back up SW be cause I thought maybe that was slowing me down. Still slow......
I have the version LrC that takes advantage of the... (show quote)


When did you get it? If you JUST got it, it may be downloading updates, indexing the drive, etc. in the background. New Macs have to "settle in" for a day or so.

My M1 MacBook Air (16 GB Unified Memory and 1TB solid state storage) is plenty fast with the latest versions of LrC and Ps. It takes a little time with Negative Lab Pro conversions, but NLP is still Intel code that uses Rosetta 2 when needed to do its thing. Still, it's about three times faster with NLP as my old 2013 iMac i5 with 16GB and 2TB SSD.

When you set up your new MBP, did you port everything over from your old Mac using Mac Migration Assistant, or did you do a clean installation of all software and then copy over your data? The latter process is a lot more labor intensive, but ensures you get rid of maximum crap build-up from the old system.

If you had virus protection on your older system, did you disable and uninstall it before migrating? I didn't, and had to, on Apple's advice, completely re-format my M1 and install a fresh copy of the OS as a result. I no longer use McAfee.

If you got the high end M1 MacBook Pro with Pro Max and full complement of cores, storage, and memory, it should be a beast for video production and other video intensive tasks. However, for single core tasks, it runs barely faster than the original M1. A lot of people are finding that some things scream on the M1 Max, while others don't. It just depends on what you're doing, and whether the software takes advantage of all the features of the hardware. It also depends on the level of optimization.

That said, LrC ought to be pretty darned snappy on that machine!

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Dec 22, 2021 15:04:45   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Davethehiker wrote:
I have the version LrC that takes advantage of the M1 chip. I went all out and bought 8TB of SSM, etc.

Maybe I'm doing something wrong but it not fast! I made the decision to move my photos into the new computer independent of LR. I thought this would be an opportunity to get rid of a lot of junk and broken links.

I thought because everything was in solid state memory that it would be blinding fast. Not so! Importing selected image into LR is painfully slow! Maybe I'm doing something wrong? I select hundreds of photos at a time and give the a broad title like "Scotland Vacation." It's very slow. I turned off my Time Machine back up SW be cause I thought maybe that was slowing me down. Still slow......
I have the version LrC that takes advantage of the... (show quote)


I re-read your post and now I hear you... You're having issues with slow transfer speeds, right? Get a copy of Black Magic Disk Speed Test. Run it on all your external drives and compare their speeds with the internal SSD. You might be shocked to find out just how much of a bottleneck you have!

My internal drives are 100 times faster than my backup conventional hard drive. They're still six to eight times faster than my fast USB 3.2 SSDs.

Be sure any USB devices are connected with the right cables. Cheap cables can be a speed limiting factor. The best cables are marked with a Thunderbolt 4 symbol or a Thunderbolt 3 symbol. Only a Thunderbolt 4 cable will connect ALL devices at their top speed. USB-C is a connector, not a protocol, and is used to transport MANY protocols (audio in/out, HDMI video, DisplayPort, Ethernet, FireWire, USB 1.1, USB 2.0, USB 3.0, USB 3.1, USB 3.2, USB4, Thunderbolt 1, 2, 3, and 4...). Many types of USB-C cables do not support the fastest devices, as my son found out the first time he connected his SanDisk 2TB SSD to his M1 MacBook Air. Instead of running at full 550 MBPS it was rated for, it was crawling along at 135 MBPS.

Hubs and docks can also limit throughput, so if you connect a drive through a hub or dock or dongle or adapter, test it with Black Magic Disk Speed Test to be SURE it is running at rated speed. Most docks take a slight performance hit, but a few of them actually speed things up over a direct connection!

I recommend Cal Digit docks and hubs and OWC Thunderbolt docks and hubs. For portability, I use a CharJen Pro USB C Ultimate Dock Gen 2 ($85), a more evolved version of the one Matt Granger recommends. It's been solid as a rock.

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Dec 22, 2021 15:08:13   #
phot0n0ob
 
are you generating 1:1 previews as you import? That takes time and will slow down the process significantly.
In that case you may want to finish importing everything, first and do the previews later.

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Dec 22, 2021 15:09:54   #
Davethehiker Loc: South West Pennsylvania
 
burkphoto wrote:
When did you get it?

A) A few days ago.



When you set up your new MBP, did you port everything over from your old Mac using Mac Migration Assistant, or did you do a clean installation of all software and then copy over your data? The latter process is a lot more labor intensive, but ensures you get rid of maximum crap build-up from the old system.

A) I copied all my images over to new computer and I'm creating a new index. I did it the hard way.

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Dec 22, 2021 15:20:04   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Keep us posted on what you find. I'm betting it speeds up for you, once all your files are in place and linked properly, and you address any interface speed issues.

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