Nikon FTZ for D lenses
Nov 15, 2021 17:47:21 #
Bill_de wrote:
To be accurate I believe the shaft drive lenses are simply labeled "AF"
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Yes, or maybe yes, but accuracy must take a back seat to basic understanding of function. “AF” is a terrible label. Has too broad a real world meaning.
I very intentionally, and repeatedly, wrote “D lenses” (complete with quotes) rather than “Shaft Drive Lenses”.
You may well be quite correct to use the “AF” label, but labels don’t match reality. What’s correct is not what’s accurate. The only unambiguous accurate term is the non official term “Shaft Drive Lenses”. It’s perfectly accurate and is NOT a label from the brand. Just forget that “AF” tag. It’s unfortunately identical to the simple plain language version of “AF”.
Nov 15, 2021 18:16:43 #
BebuLamar wrote:
D means distance (the lens provides focus distance to the body) and any lenses introduced after the AF-D lenses are also D lenses. But I do understand when people say D lenses. If I understand what a person means I wouldn't want to tell them that he/she is wrong. It's more important to understand each other than being correct and nobody understands you.
You are sooooo right about that.
Also, usage of the “D lens” label in its vernacular mode rather than its official Nikon-speak mode has an additional benefit. It brings the pedantic jargon gestapo out into the open so we know who we’re dealing with around here !!!
Nov 15, 2021 18:30:39 #
User ID wrote:
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Of course also the first generation of AF lenses which is not D lens won't AF with the FTZ.
Nov 15, 2021 18:50:10 #
User ID wrote:
There’s a difference no one mentions between two c... (show quote)
I have a full set of old nikon mount primes that are "chipped". On camera the aperture control and EXIF are the same as a "G" lens. You get the benefit of automated exposure and iris functions. They are, of course, manual focus. They range from 16mm to 200mm.
Nov 15, 2021 19:27:24 #
BebuLamar wrote:
Of course also the first generation of AF lenses which is not D lens won't AF with the FTZ.
And Hogsters will quite reasonably also loosely refer to those a “D lenses”, cuz thaz what they call all shaft drive lenses ... and we will all know what it means.
And the jargon gestapo will carry on about that as well ;-)
Nov 15, 2021 20:02:57 #
Nov 15, 2021 20:06:03 #
I have about sixty Nikon lenses - which has a lot to do with not having bought a Z Nikon
Nov 15, 2021 20:11:09 #
therwol
Loc: USA
Thomas902 wrote:
"... I have a little 28-105 f/3.6-4.5 D zoom ... (show quote)
I can think of no pictures I've taken that just scream the quality of some older lenses than these two. The first is a picture of a flower in my front yard taken with a 63 year old 55mm f/3.5 Micro on my Nikon D810. The exposure was 1/320 at f/11 and ISO 400. (Fortunately, I put a factory AI aperture ring on the lens a long time ago, otherwise I couldn't have mounted the lens.) Download this photo and zoom in. The detail is mind boggling except in the very few areas that are not in focus.
Second is a picture I've posted before taken in England at Birdoswald's Roman Fort next to what's left of Hadrian's wall. 50mm f/1.4 AF-D 1/1000 f/11 ISO 400, also with my Nikon D810. Hand held. Download and zoom in on the little white dots in the middle of the picture. Again, mind boggling detail for a lens that was introduced in 1995 but actually based on a 70s design.
Quality was reduced a bit but not resolution. Original files are too large to post here.
Nov 15, 2021 20:23:18 #
mundy-F2
Loc: Chicago suburban area
whfowle wrote:
All F-mount lens will mount going back to 1959. However, focus and aperture control remains manual on anything before AF-S.
I am not sure what the big deal is. Focus and use manual mode. Most of my glass is 1970's Nikkor. I just purchased my 1st Z 35mm f/1.8 S and will use it in manual mode to zone focus for low light night street photography with a Z6ii. The only other AF lens I have is a Nikkor 17-35mm f/2.8 ED.
Mundy
Nov 15, 2021 21:16:18 #
camshot
Loc: Peterborough ontario Canada
Why but a Jaguar and put a Hundai motor in it? If your going for a great camera body like a "Z" get the Z lenses
you won't regret it.
you won't regret it.
Nov 15, 2021 21:16:41 #
Nov 16, 2021 03:21:47 #
camshot wrote:
Why but a Jaguar and put a Hundai motor in it? If your going for a great camera body like a "Z" get the Z lenses
you won't regret it.
you won't regret it.
Jaguar motor made by Jaguar, Huyndai motor made by Huyndai. F mount lenses and Z mount lenses are both made by Nikon.
Nov 16, 2021 05:31:08 #
camshot wrote:
Why but a Jaguar and put a Hundai motor in it? If your going for a great camera body like a "Z" get the Z lenses
you won't regret it.
you won't regret it.
Nov 16, 2021 05:45:32 #
whfowle wrote:
All F-mount lens will mount going back to 1959. However, focus and aperture control remains manual on anything before AF-S.
Nope. “D” or “shaft drive” lens actually have the same aperture control and other benefits as AFS lens. The single missing function is AF. All else is the same as when using the latest lenses.
You would know that if you actually used the items you write about. Reporting what you’ve misread is unhelpful.
Nov 16, 2021 07:28:57 #
User ID wrote:
Nope. “D” or “shaft drive” lens actually have the same aperture control and other benefits as AFS lens. The single missing function is AF. All else is the same as when using the latest lenses.
You would know that if you actually used the items you write about. Reporting what you’ve misread is unhelpful.
You would know that if you actually used the items you write about. Reporting what you’ve misread is unhelpful.
Yup whether the camera can control the aperture or not depending on whether the lens has CPU or not. All AF lenses have CPU and some of the MF lenses have CPU too.
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