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Dec 7, 2020 11:27:18   #
photoman43
 
Jermes80 wrote:
This is a long post but I will try to make it short. I have a Tamron 150-600 lens that needed some adjustment with the auto focus. I called Tamron USA and she told me everything I needed to do. When I ask how to ship it, she said they use Fed Ex. I thought that was ok because I feel like UPS uses most everything for a football. I took it to my local Fed Ex Office, purchased a box and bubble wrap. When I asked the counter rep to borrow tape and scissors, He said "Oh no! I have the perfect safest way to send it". He proceeded to open packages and wrapped it in molded foam. I was a little worried about that because of the heat it gives off. But he assured me it was fine, and "nothing was going to get to this lens". I purchased $1100.00 insurance and paid extra for fragile. About a week later I received an acknowledgement from Tamron and the words " Evidence of Shock Damage" and "Broken External Parts" grabbed my eye. I immediately called Tamron USA and the young lady told me the box was crushed and should never send in molded foam. They kept the box for evidence and a note on the acknowledgement said "Please note Lens was damaged by insufficient packing". I had left the UV filter on it and it was also shattered. Tamron assessed the damage at $278.00 to fix which of course I told them to do it. I want my lens back! It's bird season in the RGV!. I have filed a claim on 12/3 and have not heard anything yet. My question is should I make them pay for the lens and filter or settle for the amount it takes to fix it? Comments please. Again sorry for the lengthy post.
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A lot depends on what your insurance will cover. If it covers a new lens, get a new lens and let your insurance co have the old one.

If you have your photo equipment covered under a separate effects policy, that might cover it too.

Damage of $278 does not seem like a lot of money. A new filter can cost $50-100 by itself.

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Dec 7, 2020 11:38:48   #
george19
 
I have a friend who was building a harpsichord from a kit. He was nearby, so I drove an hour to meet him at the factory and got a lesson in stringing a harpsichord. On the bench was a keyboard, and later he told me it was his...a delicate collection of about 1000 carefully arranged pieces of wood and metal.

A while later he emailed me that when he got his keyboard back it was smashed to bits. It took some time, but he finally got the shipping company to say that an elephant sat on it. And no...not making this up.

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Dec 7, 2020 11:50:59   #
Beenthere
 
rook2c4 wrote:
For boxes to be shipped, I always prepare them at home where I have complete control over how they are packaged, and where I always keep an ample supply of various packing materials. I really don't understand why you would choose some stranger to pack it for you, especially if you are shipping something fragile and very valuable. Just because someone works at FedEx doesn't guarantee that person is good at preparing packages for shipment. Permanently boycotting FedEx is pointless, especially if it was your fault for failing to take responsibility for your own package preparation. Besides, in the end you are only punishing yourself by limiting your future shipping options.
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HEY! it is not our duty to scold this unfortunate person. He trusted a supposed professional who assured him his package would arrive intact. The counter clerk didn't start, or take part in the rugby match that ensued.

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Dec 7, 2020 12:02:17   #
Scruples Loc: Brooklyn, New York
 
All good advice here. There is plenty of advice I had not thought of. I didn’t think that “boycotting” FedEx on your own accomplishes nothing. You just limit your shopping choices in the future. While an 800-1000 dollars lens has been damaged by someone’s carelessness, this is not a reason to become adversarial. Keeping proper decorum will resolve more issues that having a tantrum and making the resolution harder to achieve.
Please be well and stay safe.

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Dec 7, 2020 12:34:51   #
Johnsonbdr
 
That sounds like our local FedEx people here. Many problems with delivery’s and then on top of that damaged packages from their mishandling.

Good luck

Charlie

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Dec 7, 2020 12:40:02   #
trapper1 Loc: Southside Virginia
 
I have received, over a period of time, seven shipments via FedEx that were clearly marked that a signature was required. Every one of them was simply dumped on my front steps with no attempt by the FedEx driver at getting a signature. I do not ship by FedEx as they do not have an office anywhere nearby and shipping is by drop-box only. It doesn't take a genius to realize that if you drop a shipment off in one of those boxes, you have no proof it was ever shipped if the shipment is never delivered to the addressee.

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Dec 7, 2020 13:01:36   #
Jim 100 Loc: Everett, Washington
 
I am not trying to start any arguments here, just stating personal experiences. I have had bad and good experiences with Fedex and UPS. I have never had a bad experience with USPS.

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Dec 7, 2020 13:01:51   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
I worked in the express industry for a number of years. There is a tremendous amount of misunderstanding arund what is involved in shipping, much of it dating back to the sailing ship days. For instance, unless you are shipping through the post office, there is really no such thing as "Insurance" on your shipments. When you pay the "Declared Value" adder, you are buying the right to negotiate for compensation in case of damage to or loss of your shipment. That is a company internal process, NOT protection against loss by a third party, and therefore, NOT insurance. Competent counter personnel will make that clear. I find that many now do not know the difference and inaccurately refer to what you are buying as "insurance."

Also...the rules around shipping are defined in multipage documents called "Tariffs." They are very complex. very detailed, and very biased in favor of the shipping company. Shipping is actually a "best effort" undertaking. If you approach it as anything different from that, you are being very naive.

Express companies handle many millions of packages a day. The vast majority get where they are going just fine. Most customers end up very happy. The shipping companies rely heavily on that. But a few don't. You need to be prepared for that eventuality before you ever tender your package at the counter. Because when something goes wrong, some shippers will receive compensation and satisfaction. Others will not. If you are not prepared for that possibility, then you should probably just carry your package where it needs to go. I make no claim that this is the way that things really should be. But it is how things are. Be ready for it. It is why the company that I worked for did not accept over the counter shipments from individual customers for many years.

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Dec 7, 2020 13:23:54   #
manofhg Loc: Knoxville, TN
 
I matted and framed a picture I had taken, carefully packaged it and sent it from East TN to a friend in Maryland. I used FedEx and had it insured for the amount of materials and shipping costs. I notified my friend it was coming. FedEx showed it had been delivered. My friend said that it had not and his neighborhood is in a rural area and doesn't typically have package theft. He checked the area and asked neighbors, but no package. I contacted FedEx who rechecked and again said it was delivered and refused to refund or do anything. What I didn't do and should have is require a receipt signature. I sent the package again through USPS with signature required. This time it arrived.

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Dec 7, 2020 13:24:10   #
Scruples Loc: Brooklyn, New York
 
I truly hope that FedEx will make everything right.

Please Be Well and Stay Safe.

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Dec 7, 2020 13:43:46   #
RichJ207 Loc: Sammamish, WA
 
On the receiving end, I specify UPS. They add the requirement on my profile that my signature is required on every delivery. They have followed that requirement for years on every package since I added it to my profile. When I asked FedEx to do the same thing, I was informed that the FedEx business that delivers is a locally owned franchise and they refused to require a signature on every delivery. I would never use FedEx for that reason alone.

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Dec 7, 2020 14:00:11   #
TV714
 
Just my two cents here. How many times have you opened a package to find one air pillow inside the box along with the item being shipped? A box has six sides to it. Putting one air pillow inside only keeps the item from jostling around inside the box, it does nothing to protect it from shock on the other five sides. To be properly protected, there should be cushioning on the bottom, all four sides, and on top as well. It won't protect it from being run over by a truck but it will help on those dropped passes when your package is being tossed like a football. Also, I'm not sure solid foam gives an item much cushioning.

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Dec 7, 2020 15:30:37   #
cejonesjr Loc: Norman, Oklahoma
 
Jermes80 wrote:
This is a long post but I will try to make it short. I have a Tamron 150-600 lens that needed some adjustment with the auto focus. I called Tamron USA and she told me everything I needed to do. When I ask how to ship it, she said they use Fed Ex. I thought that was ok because I feel like UPS uses most everything for a football. I took it to my local Fed Ex Office, purchased a box and bubble wrap. When I asked the counter rep to borrow tape and scissors, He said "Oh no! I have the perfect safest way to send it". He proceeded to open packages and wrapped it in molded foam. I was a little worried about that because of the heat it gives off. But he assured me it was fine, and "nothing was going to get to this lens". I purchased $1100.00 insurance and paid extra for fragile. About a week later I received an acknowledgement from Tamron and the words " Evidence of Shock Damage" and "Broken External Parts" grabbed my eye. I immediately called Tamron USA and the young lady told me the box was crushed and should never send in molded foam. They kept the box for evidence and a note on the acknowledgement said "Please note Lens was damaged by insufficient packing". I had left the UV filter on it and it was also shattered. Tamron assessed the damage at $278.00 to fix which of course I told them to do it. I want my lens back! It's bird season in the RGV!. I have filed a claim on 12/3 and have not heard anything yet. My question is should I make them pay for the lens and filter or settle for the amount it takes to fix it? Comments please. Again sorry for the lengthy post.
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Years ago, I sent a large, framed photo to my daughter for Christmas using Fed-X. It arrived in shambles. We had stuck all kinds of fragile signs and this side up signs on the package. It was well packaged with bubble wrap which was placed inside the Styrofoam peanuts. I had insured it for $1,000 just to make them pay if they damaged it. It paid for a new print of the image, custom frame and museum glass. I've had great service with UPS.

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Dec 7, 2020 15:33:05   #
John_F Loc: Minneapolis, MN
 
Keep us informed when all is done and over.

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Dec 7, 2020 15:46:38   #
sabrejet
 
I would like to hear if you get anything out of them.

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