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Mar 3, 2020 07:40:01   #
abc1234 Loc: Elk Grove Village, Illinois
 
Shapiro, you are absolutely right. Dry mount is the way to go. I have tried tapes and spray-on adhesives and they do not come close to dry mount.

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Mar 3, 2020 08:28:01   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
Another vote for dry mounting tissue. I have prints that are dry mounted that are still perfectly adhered with no discoloration after almost 50 years. If you don’t have access to a press, a standard iron on low heat with the print covered by a cloth works perfectly. Adhesive sprays are a mess in my experience.

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Mar 3, 2020 08:51:02   #
redtooth
 
Marg , What in the world is a fair store ?

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Mar 3, 2020 09:03:01   #
AlanW Loc: Upstate NY
 
dandev wrote:
I am planning to enter photos in local (WA) state fairs - and the photos need to be "mounted on picture mat board no thicker than 1/8 inch. No foam core or gator board." I used to have my photos mounted by the places I got my photos printed, but now that I have my own printer, I have to do this myself.

I watched a number of videos - and seen both the "spray the photo with 3M 77" and using the self adhesive mat boards.

Any recommendation on where to buy mat boards for this purpose? Any recommendation on techniques? (Spray vs self adhesive.)

Thanks...
I am planning to enter photos in local (WA) state ... (show quote)


I use goldenstateart.com for my mat boards(usually 16x20 or 14x18 for 11x14 prints). They come with backing boards and clear plastic sleeves. Depending on quantity they should run about $2 ea. plus shipping. My last order was for 20 and shipping was $17 to NY. So $3.70 ea. is quite reasonable. The only issue I've had was with the website itself. Last time I ordered it would not let me enter my shipping address which I had to straighten out on the phone. I've never had any issues with the actual orders or shipping.

I am chairperson for monthly print competitions in our local club and I see many mounting methods, some good, some not so much. First, I always use linen tape to hinge the boards. As for mounting the print it depends on use. For contests I have used Scotch double faced removable tape. Two pieces about a third of the way in, at the top underside of print does the trick. Lately I have tried painters tape on the front side of top unprinted edge. Its cheaper, easier to apply and also removable. Neither of these tapes is archival to my knowledge. I also have been using rolled pieces of painters tape to hold the mat boards together after the print is mounted. Using this method you can easily remove the print. For framed prints that are for sale I use the T-hinging method using linen tape. You can find videos of that method online. I have never tried any adhesives.

Hope this helps.

Alan

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Mar 3, 2020 09:04:57   #
cedymock Loc: Irmo, South Carolina
 
dandev wrote:
I am planning to enter photos in local (WA) state fairs - and the photos need to be "mounted on picture mat board no thicker than 1/8 inch. No foam core or gator board." I used to have my photos mounted by the places I got my photos printed, but now that I have my own printer, I have to do this myself.

I watched a number of videos - and seen both the "spray the photo with 3M 77" and using the self adhesive mat boards.

Any recommendation on where to buy mat boards for this purpose? Any recommendation on techniques? (Spray vs self adhesive.)

Thanks...
I am planning to enter photos in local (WA) state ... (show quote)


Just wondering;
If you are not entering a large number of photos just go to a frame shop and let someone with the equipment and experience mount your prints.

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Mar 3, 2020 09:26:01   #
jkm757 Loc: San Diego, Ca.
 
dandev wrote:
I am planning to enter photos in local (WA) state fairs - and the photos need to be "mounted on picture mat board no thicker than 1/8 inch. No foam core or gator board." I used to have my photos mounted by the places I got my photos printed, but now that I have my own printer, I have to do this myself.

I watched a number of videos - and seen both the "spray the photo with 3M 77" and using the self adhesive mat boards.

Any recommendation on where to buy mat boards for this purpose? Any recommendation on techniques? (Spray vs self adhesive.)

Thanks...
I am planning to enter photos in local (WA) state ... (show quote)


I'm curious , why do you have to do your own mounting? Why cant the place that used to do the printing and mounting just mount the print you made?

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Mar 3, 2020 09:27:34   #
TGanner Loc: Haines, Alaska
 
Crescent self adhesive matt boards are the easiest. I use Redi-mat as a source, and a roller to apply the photo. Very simple, efficient and effective. Been using this product for years with excellent results.

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Mar 3, 2020 09:47:15   #
cedymock Loc: Irmo, South Carolina
 
jkm757 wrote:
I'm curious , why do you have to do your own mounting? Why cant the place that used to do the printing and mounting just mount the print you made?


East coast west coast Great minds think alike!

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Mar 3, 2020 10:24:24   #
radiomantom Loc: Plymouth Indiana
 
dandev wrote:
I am planning to enter photos in local (WA) state fairs - and the photos need to be "mounted on picture mat board no thicker than 1/8 inch. No foam core or gator board." I used to have my photos mounted by the places I got my photos printed, but now that I have my own printer, I have to do this myself.

I watched a number of videos - and seen both the "spray the photo with 3M 77" and using the self adhesive mat boards.

Any recommendation on where to buy mat boards for this purpose? Any recommendation on techniques? (Spray vs self adhesive.)

Thanks...
I am planning to enter photos in local (WA) state ... (show quote)


I have mounted hundreds of pf photos on mat boards and I use 3M photo mount spray adhesive. My photos have hung on display under some very harsh conditions and I have yet to have the first one show any sign of coming loose. When spraying the print be sure to hold the can 10-12 in from print and cover evenly both horizontilly and vertically across it. After spraying I wait about 45 seconds and then apply the print to the mat.
I then cover the photo with a sheet of brown paper and roll over it with a print roller.

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Mar 3, 2020 10:36:33   #
jackm1943 Loc: Omaha, Nebraska
 
E.L.. Shapiro wrote:
This may seem a bit out of the box but you might want to consider DRY MOUNTING. If you intend to do lots of mounting, going forward, you may be able to pick up a used 14x17 or 16x20 dry mounting press at a reasonable price. OR...you can, with a bit of ingenuity, improvisation, and practice, be able to dry mount with an ordinary household flat iron set at a lower heat. Dry mounting tissue is sandwiched between the print and the mounting board and heat are applied to the surface with a buffer sheet atop the print.

All of this may be worth the initial expense for the equipment and materials. Frankly, I HATE all those spray adhesives, pre-treated adhesive boards, glue, etc. They are messy, some are far from permanent and usually not even remotely archival. Dry mounting is extremely clean, permanent, and once you get the technique down pat- you can always expect consistent and repeatable results.

If you use a press, you can mount prints that are larger than the presse's platten, in sections. The tissue comes in standard sizes in sheets and rolls. I use the "Seal" products. I have had my Seal press and tacking iron for nearly 50 years.

You can dry mount on all kinds of matte boards, Foam-Cor, Masonite, Gator-Foam and more. You can mount photographs on conventional photographic papers, all kinds of paper commonly used in digital ink printing. posters, all kinds of printed matter, etc. Although there are "archival" quality tissues available, dry mounting is NOT considered pure archival methodology, nor is any kind of adhesive that can harm or devalue artworks.
In true archival picture framing, the artwork is hinged and suspended, with special spacers between archival mounting boards, and special conservatory glass.

For genera mounting, display, and print competition purposes, dry mounting is quite acceptable. I have dry-mounted prints that are 50 years old with no staining, peeling, discoloration, or deterioration issues.
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I also prefer dry mounting and have equipment similar to yours. One of the reasons I like dry mounting is that the print takes on some of the texture of the mat board which I find very attractive.

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Mar 3, 2020 10:36:51   #
Papa Joe Loc: Midwest U.S.
 
I buy mine (self adhesive mounting board) at Hobby Lobby. I found when leaving a 'border' around the print, after sticking it down you can sprinkle common kitchen flour on the exposed sticky surface and lightly rubbing it over the surface to render it 'non-sticky', then brush or blow remaining flour away. Works great. Have mounted many photos using this method.

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Mar 3, 2020 10:43:07   #
PlymouthWoodworker Loc: Plymouth, MA
 
I have had very good results using Elmer's Multi-Purpose Spray Adhesive. It's acid free (photo safe) and does not bleed through. I don't believe 3M 77 is acid free. I cut the mount board (also acid free) a little oversize and mark where the photo is to be placed. I spray the back side of the photo with an even coat of adhesive, position it starting at one end and slowly lower it working from one end to the other, making sure there are no air pockets. I put a protective sheet of paper on top and use a roller to make sure the bond is complete over the entire surface. I then trim the mount board edges.

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Mar 3, 2020 11:44:12   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
dandev wrote:
I am planning to enter photos in local (WA) state fairs - and the photos need to be "mounted on picture mat board no thicker than 1/8 inch. No foam core or gator board." I used to have my photos mounted by the places I got my photos printed, but now that I have my own printer, I have to do this myself.

I watched a number of videos - and seen both the "spray the photo with 3M 77" and using the self adhesive mat boards.

Any recommendation on where to buy mat boards for this purpose? Any recommendation on techniques? (Spray vs self adhesive.)

Thanks...
I am planning to enter photos in local (WA) state ... (show quote)


Michael's

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Mar 3, 2020 12:33:43   #
dandev Loc: Enumclaw, WA
 
Great inputs - Thanks. I went to my local arts/crafts store (Ben Franklin) yesterday and saw how they mounted prints. They have a big heat/vacuum machine - and use a coated (dry mount) type board. About $16 for them to do a 16 x 20. And the board is thicker than 1/8 inch.
They said that before they got the machine - they used 3M 77 spray. They still use the 77 spray for prints for the Fair. They said the Elmers wasn't as good a glue.
I bought a can of the 77 spray and some backing board and will try it this weekend.
Another friend of mine said she used double-sticky tape.

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Mar 3, 2020 14:48:43   #
Ed Broussard
 
I use Tyndell Photographic Supply mailto:sales@tyndellphotographic.com they have boards from 8x10 to 16x20 single and double weight with adhesive. They are in Michigan, I stock the single weight but when need a double weight I double up two single weight boards together

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