Artifical Intelligence
Oct 26, 2023 18:59:17 #
CHG_CANON wrote:
What’s the opposite of artificial intelligence? The UHH community worrying about AI images.
AI doesn't care... no feelings.
Oct 26, 2023 19:13:15 #
Many of the UHH posts are nothing more than Facebook posts. Not worth reading. It hard to find something photographically interesting. Even most image submissions are marginal at best.
Oct 26, 2023 19:15:58 #
larryepage
Loc: North Texas area
Might be worth a quick look at the OP's profile to learn a little bit about him and why he raised the question. It's pretty valid from what his perspective almost certainly is.
Not all photographers are necessarily nose in the air artists. Don't know if he is or not.
General civility here seems to have taken a real hit over the last few weeks. Not much feeling of folks working to pursue a common interest. Not much reason for a forum without it.
Not all photographers are necessarily nose in the air artists. Don't know if he is or not.
General civility here seems to have taken a real hit over the last few weeks. Not much feeling of folks working to pursue a common interest. Not much reason for a forum without it.
Oct 26, 2023 19:16:18 #
ImageCreator wrote:
Many of the UHH posts are nothing more than Facebook posts. Not worth reading. It hard to find something photographically interesting.
So much for camaraderie, eh?
Oct 26, 2023 19:22:13 #
ImageCreator wrote:
Many of the UHH posts are nothing more than Facebook posts. Not worth reading. It hard to find something photographically interesting. Even most image submissions are marginal at best.
The Gallery is full of interesting things being photographed ...
Oct 26, 2023 19:24:05 #
CHG_CANON wrote:
The Gallery is full of interesting things being photographed ...
Oct 26, 2023 19:26:01 #
RightOnPhotography
Loc: Quebec,QC
CHG_CANON wrote:
For breakfast, I had a couple of English muffins with butter and jam and a Granny Smith apple. Oh yes, black coffee too.
What items on your menu were created by AI?
Oct 26, 2023 19:28:30 #
RightOnPhotography wrote:
What items on your menu were created by AI?
If I'd known it would be needed later, I should have documented in a proof-of-breakfast image ...
Oct 26, 2023 19:32:38 #
CHG_CANON wrote:
If I'd known it would be needed later, I should have documented in a proof-of-breakfast image ...
Would the image have to be certified?
We know that they can be recherché.
Oct 26, 2023 19:44:35 #
If you need to create or abide by "rules" as to the ethics in photography- try these on for size and see if they fit:
Serios image alteration has no place in pure photojournalism or documentary photography. Aim series retouching or editing that distorts the truth is not acceptable.
In fine artwork, you are the boss. You can opt for reality or fantasy. Nobody should tell you what to do.
Commercial work. I do not advocate false advertising or exaggerating the appearance of any product or service to the extent of creating a fallacy or affectation completely beyond reality. Commercial clients usually want their products and services displayed (visually) at their very best. IA may help add background, environment, and some enhancement in a reasonable and honest manner. There are consumer protection laws in place to prevent misrepresentation in food packaging. Eg. In a frozen food product, you can shot it cooked in the best possible way but you can not substitute fresh product- you have to shoot the product as it is packed and frozen. Commercial clients usually want idealized images of the products or services. We style and style interiors, carefully prepare food photography, pay attest to detail in fashion work, and show even the most mundane products with optimized lighting and camera angles. There are AI additions that can represent a product without falsification.
Portraiture: Most cliets want flatterig images. Retouching is one of the traditional treatments of accomplishing. this. There has been digital software that has replaced manual retouching for quite some time. Now they are marketed as AI. Personally, I consult with each subject and ascertain if the prefer a realistic study or a more enhanced rendition of their appearance. I light, shoot, and retouch accordingly.
To the viewers, clients, or patrons of your art, a photograph is not a camera club competition or technical workshop. The are buying, utilizing or enjoying your images regardless of how the are produced.
AI will not be the end of traditional photography, literature, or any other real discipline. The quacks, phonies, and bad guys will use it for nefarious or dishonest purposes. The "yellow journalists" will become more "yellow"! Honest folks will utilize it like any other tool or technology. For the folks around here who love to argue- constant crabbing about AI certainly outfilters, Canon vs Nikon (etc.), and whether post-processing is legitimate altogether!
The other day a client asked me of one day "will I (me) be replaced by a robot. I told him it would never happen because they would NOT find a robot that was big and ugly enough to replicate me- and it will change you MORE money!
If you like my philosophy, you are welcome to utilize it or any part of it. If you disagree, that's good too! We ca still be friends!
Serios image alteration has no place in pure photojournalism or documentary photography. Aim series retouching or editing that distorts the truth is not acceptable.
In fine artwork, you are the boss. You can opt for reality or fantasy. Nobody should tell you what to do.
Commercial work. I do not advocate false advertising or exaggerating the appearance of any product or service to the extent of creating a fallacy or affectation completely beyond reality. Commercial clients usually want their products and services displayed (visually) at their very best. IA may help add background, environment, and some enhancement in a reasonable and honest manner. There are consumer protection laws in place to prevent misrepresentation in food packaging. Eg. In a frozen food product, you can shot it cooked in the best possible way but you can not substitute fresh product- you have to shoot the product as it is packed and frozen. Commercial clients usually want idealized images of the products or services. We style and style interiors, carefully prepare food photography, pay attest to detail in fashion work, and show even the most mundane products with optimized lighting and camera angles. There are AI additions that can represent a product without falsification.
Portraiture: Most cliets want flatterig images. Retouching is one of the traditional treatments of accomplishing. this. There has been digital software that has replaced manual retouching for quite some time. Now they are marketed as AI. Personally, I consult with each subject and ascertain if the prefer a realistic study or a more enhanced rendition of their appearance. I light, shoot, and retouch accordingly.
To the viewers, clients, or patrons of your art, a photograph is not a camera club competition or technical workshop. The are buying, utilizing or enjoying your images regardless of how the are produced.
AI will not be the end of traditional photography, literature, or any other real discipline. The quacks, phonies, and bad guys will use it for nefarious or dishonest purposes. The "yellow journalists" will become more "yellow"! Honest folks will utilize it like any other tool or technology. For the folks around here who love to argue- constant crabbing about AI certainly outfilters, Canon vs Nikon (etc.), and whether post-processing is legitimate altogether!
The other day a client asked me of one day "will I (me) be replaced by a robot. I told him it would never happen because they would NOT find a robot that was big and ugly enough to replicate me- and it will change you MORE money!
If you like my philosophy, you are welcome to utilize it or any part of it. If you disagree, that's good too! We ca still be friends!
Oct 26, 2023 19:45:02 #
bnnsradio wrote:
I have an open discussion with a "professional photographer" concerning the use of AI in photography. My discussion is this: Does the use of AI in photography affect the reality of photography/the photograph?
You need to define "use of AI in photography". And while you're at it, clarifying what you mean by "reality of photography" would also help.
You're getting some crap responses because for some people this topic has been covered too much already.
Oct 26, 2023 19:51:04 #
srt101fan wrote:
You need to define "use of AI in photography". And while you're at it, clarifying what you mean by "reality of photography" would also help.
You're getting some crap responses because for some people this topic has been covered too much already.
You're getting some crap responses because for some people this topic has been covered too much already.
Double exposure is a reality of photography.
However "ghosts" are not.
Oct 26, 2023 20:00:53 #
cahale
Loc: San Angelo, TX
bnnsradio wrote:
I have an open discussion with a "professional photographer" concerning the use of AI in photography. My discussion is this: Does the use of AI in photography affect the reality of photography/the photograph?
Must we do this again. Every time a shot is taken with a digital camera, artificial "intelligence" is used.
Oct 26, 2023 20:01:55 #
cahale wrote:
Must we do this again. Every time a shot is taken with a digital camera, artificial "intelligence" is used.
Ahhhhh, no.
A computer program algorithm is used..........
Same with navigation devices.
Oct 26, 2023 20:08:17 #
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