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Ricoh, Parent Company of Pentax, Film Camera
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Dec 28, 2022 12:38:07   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
delder wrote:
Just a reminder:
[While both technologies are obsolete], vinyl record sales overtook CD 💿 sales in 2020 AND are running about 3x CD sales in 2022.
People still view and buy paintings, which are FAR from current technology...
Just got back from a cruise 🛳 where the 📷 Camera Shop was pretty much selling ONLY Go-Pro and Instant Cameras!

Stateside, my big question is whether they can provide the necessary processing services.

As Ricoh/Pentax already own all of the needed technology & production assets, I would not bet AGAINST something coming from their innovative.
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I occasionally run a roll of film thru a camera that I’ve had for many years, having the film developed by my local camera shop. There are also ‘mail-order’ sources of film and providers of developing services in the U.S.; I would expect there are sources of film and providers of developing in almost every country.

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Dec 28, 2022 13:00:03   #
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If you build the better mouse trap you might catch more mice. But if you build the better dinosaur trap you wont catch more dinosaurs.


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Dec 28, 2022 13:08:35   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
User ID wrote:
If you build the better mouse trap you might catch more mice. But if you build the better dinosaur trap you wont catch more dinosaurs.

What are you assuming about the film camera they are looking at?

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Dec 28, 2022 13:12:30   #
BebuLamar
 
rehess wrote:
What are you assuming about the film camera they are looking at?


I think he meant there is no film to shoot with the brand new film camera. I shoot Ektachrome and just check with B&H and it's not in stock and they want $20 for a roll of 35 exp.
So while my film cameras are old I have enough of them so that for the rest of my life I am sure I would have a working film camera but I am not sure I can buy or afford film.

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Dec 28, 2022 13:13:53   #
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rehess wrote:
What are you assuming about the film camera they are looking at?

That it uses film.

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Dec 28, 2022 13:37:32   #
Haenzel Loc: South Holland, The Netherlands
 
I only recently bought a Pentax Z-1, the camera my wife told me to get to get rid of a few years back..
I'm curious what my level of photography will be with film compared to 1980, now that I really learned how to shoot with my DSLR.

A lot of younger people are buying old SLR's that hardly anybody can service. I think it is a good idea from Pentax to target the niche. I wouldn't be surprised if the SLR's turn out to be top notch with lots of unexpected features....Let's wait and see..

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Dec 28, 2022 14:13:29   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
BebuLamar wrote:
I think he meant there is no film to shoot with the brand new film camera. I shoot Ektachrome and just check with B&H and it's not in stock and they want $20 for a roll of 35 exp.
So while my film cameras are old I have enough of them so that for the rest of my life I am sure I would have a working film camera but I am not sure I can buy or afford film.

I don ‘t know what the supply of film is like in Japan.

I also expect the supply of film at B&H reflects local demand.

Ricoh is insular.
They usually produce for the home market, and the rest of us may use their products if we want to. They have released several videos about this project. Supply issues are not mentioned, so I expect that Japanese users can get the film they want and are willing to pay current prices.

Incidentally, they talk about starting with compact cameras, then working their way ‘up’. They say they need to do this while they can, while older engineers are still around to act as consultants for the younger engineers.

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Dec 28, 2022 14:20:14   #
BebuLamar
 
rehess wrote:
I don ‘t know what the supply of film is like in Japan.

I also expect the supply of film at B&H reflects local demand.

Ricoh is insular.
They usually produce for the home market, and the rest of us may use their products if we want to. They have released several videos about this project. Supply issues are not mentioned, so I expect that Japanese users can get the film they want and are willing to pay current prices.


It would be strange to have more films in Japan as I heard Fuji stopped making film and Kodak still makes film in the USA.

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Dec 28, 2022 15:00:44   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
BebuLamar wrote:
It would be strange to have more films in Japan as I heard Fuji stopped making film and Kodak still makes film in the USA.

We have plenty in the US, but a given distributor may keep only so much on hand because only so much is demanded.

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Dec 28, 2022 15:02:52   #
delder Loc: Maryland
 
Considering the current
"supply chain" limitations on film/processing, it might be nice to have a "New" SLR with enough automation to "Guarantee" each shot would turn out. Sill allow for pro settings as well.

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Dec 28, 2022 15:13:26   #
BebuLamar
 
delder wrote:
Considering the current
"supply chain" limitations on film/processing, it might be nice to have a "New" SLR with enough automation to "Guarantee" each shot would turn out. Sill allow for pro settings as well.


It is without the automation you're more likely to have every shot turns out.

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Dec 28, 2022 15:47:14   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
rmalarz wrote:
Well, it's in the planning stage but it seems Pentax is going to be making a new film camera. Keep in mind, planning doesn't mean moving forward.

This per dpreview.
--Bob


It’s nice to see that Pentax still has their fingers on the pulse of the market! 😜🤪🤣

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Dec 28, 2022 16:03:34   #
delder Loc: Maryland
 
BebuLamar wrote:
It is without the automation you're more likely to have every shot turns out.


I think the AUTO would at least give you a centerline to adjust from.

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Dec 28, 2022 16:11:42   #
BebuLamar
 
delder wrote:
I think the AUTO would at least give you a centerline to adjust from.


What do you mean to adjust from?

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Dec 28, 2022 16:38:50   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
It’s nice to see that Pentax still has their fingers on the pulse of the market! 😜🤪🤣

Pulse of the Japanese market.

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