Haenzel
Loc: South Holland, The Netherlands
OldSchool-WI wrote:
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Every generation of product of a company is different and even the goals of the company or parent company. Some camera companies try to maintain a good name, other degrade their good names by offering "competitive models."
Ricoh---as in Ricohflex was the "poor man's Rollieflex. And the Japanese made a poor copy of a Rollie, also. The double lens reflex concept never appealed to me and was one type of camera I have never owned. As for film cameras--it is not merely a archaic niche----it is a highly PROFESSIONAL niche and hopefully will be encouraged by some of the well-healed oldsters here on UHH?---------------
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I only like to comment that this "Film Adventure" is ventured under the name Pentax, not Ricoh Pentax. I presume this means they're trying to maintain a good name.. (Although almost any product, apart from a bad solenoid in some camera's, produced by Ricoh Pentax is of good quality)
OldSchool-WI wrote:
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Every generation of product of a company is different and even the goals of the company or parent company. Some camera companies try to maintain a good name, other degrade their good names by offering "competitive models."
Ricoh---as in Ricohflex was the "poor man's Rollieflex. And the Japanese made a poor copy of a Rollie, also. The double lens reflex concept never appealed to me and was one type of camera I have never owned. As for film cameras--it is not merely a archaic niche----it is a highly PROFESSIONAL niche and hopefully will be encouraged by some of the well-healed oldsters here on UHH?---------------
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This is encouraging for those interested in Film Photography.
More Film Cameras will create more demand for Film & Processing. More Film/Processing availability will encourage the sale of more Film Cameras!
SuperflyTNT wrote:
. . .But the technology in their most current camera has it being compared to a camera Nikon released 7 years ago.
It could be that Nikon was simply seven years ahead of the market. Perhaps the right time for that tech has finally arrived, and Ricoh/Pentax can make a buck from it.
rehess
Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
MrPhotog wrote:
It could be that Nikon was simply seven years ahead of the market. Perhaps the right time for that tech has finally arrived, and Ricoh/Pentax can make a buck from it.
This may be completely different tech - in any case, we will have to
patiently wait and see where it leads - it may take several years. I have never before seen Ricoh/Pentax announce
where they are going. Usually they announce only when they have arrived somewhere. We have been talking about this for over two days - there are doubters, but it is good for them to be news here.
rehess
Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
MrPhotog wrote:
It could be that Nikon was simply seven years ahead of the market. Perhaps the right time for that tech has finally arrived, and Ricoh/Pentax can make a buck from it.
I owned a Kodak Instamatic 100, with a leaf-shutter, in high school in the 1960’s . Asahi, the company that began Pentax, delivered the first Japanese-made SLR with automatic mirror return. The new film camera be as closely related to those cameras as to anything produced by Nikon or Canon.
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Seven year old Nikon release? The F6 was release in 2004 at the same time as the Nikon D2 series.
Haenzel
Loc: South Holland, The Netherlands
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The Pentax K3 III has got some tricks in it's sleeves that didn't exist 7 years ago.
Trouble is all those famous reviewers don't have the time or don't want to spend the time to get to learn a camera properly so they're not able to really compare.
But hey, that's fine. I'm not a brand lover pur sang. I don't care what brand a camera is. When you feel connected to the way a camera feels and operates then it's your camera. If not look further.
The last thing you should do is trying to downplay a brand. Just don't buy it...
Haenzel wrote:
The Pentax K3 III has got some tricks in it's sleeves that didn't exist 7 years ago.
The K3 III was released in 2021. That's why. That camera and the 2018 K1 II have IBIS in a DSLR design. That makes them unique. They also have pixel shifting resolution, also not seen in other DSLR cameras, but it isn't a unique or new concept. You can get these features in newer mirrorless cameras these days. People are losing interest in DSLRs. Pentax obviously feels that these cameras can sell well enough to keep them in business, but can they? That's the question. I would venture to say that the vast majority of people looking to buy a new camera aren't looking at these.
Haenzel
Loc: South Holland, The Netherlands
therwol wrote:
..........They also have pixel shifting resolution, also not seen in other DSLR cameras, but it isn't a unique or new concept. You can get these features in newer mirrorless cameras these days...........
We are talking 7 years ago.....that's how old the K3 III's technique is said to be....??
Clearly it isn't:
Pixel shift hand held, IBIS up to 5,5 stop stabilization, night mode, several interval modes, the ability of using build in graduated filters, astro tracing with or WITHOUT gps, image quality comparable with FF, focus peaking in live view, brightest and largest ever view finder, fully weather sealed, touch screen, customizable menu layout, advanced hyper mode, smart functions, 12 frames per second, ergonomics, durability etc.
This all might not be state of the art but to say the Nikon from 7 years back had it all or was even better???
It's the way people look at Pentax because that's what they've been told by reviewers who simply don't know enough.
Also marketing and Pentax don't go hand in hand...
rehess
Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
SuperflyTNT wrote:
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I purchased my K-30 seven years ago.
I purchased my KP four years ago.
Each of them had IBIS {which means even lenses from the 1980’s are stabilized}
You are telling me that Nikon had that back then????
rehess
Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
I was thinking about this.
I have owned various cameras - both film cameras and digital cameras. If a digital camera had a mediocre viewfinder {like my Canon Digital Elphs}, I would give up on the viewfinder at some point and use the back LCD - but I had no choice with the film cameras - I had to ‘grin and bear it’.
The video seems to talk about their starting with a ‘point and shoot’ film camera. The viewfinder in such a camera may be such that no one would purchase a new camera with it - which may be the reason for their dropping the idea.
rehess wrote:
I was thinking about this.
I have owned various cameras - both film cameras and digital cameras. If a digital camera had a mediocre viewfinder {like my Canon Digital Elphs}, I would give up on the viewfinder at some point and use the back LCD - but I had no choice with the film cameras - I had to ‘grin and bear it’.
The video seems to talk about their starting with a ‘point and shoot’ film camera. The viewfinder in such a camera may be such that no one would purchase a new camera with it - which may be the reason for their dropping the idea.
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They could come up a film camera with an EVF and with preview too.
rehess
Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
BebuLamar wrote:
They could come up a film camera with an EVF and with preview too.
They haven’t even used EVF with digital cameras.
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