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Jul 18, 2022 08:17:28   #
Jack47 Loc: Ontario
 
BigDaddy wrote:
I tried these 3 (nikonshuttercount.com failed on my Nikon) I picked a random picture (DSC_4084) and they both came up with 5179 for a shutter count based on that picture. That means this particular picture's file name should have been DSC_5179. This is 1095 MORE than the picture file number assigned by my camera which I never change. So theoretically, the file name my camera has assigned should also be the shutter count? I find this a bit curious, no idea why, but I know I didn't change the camera file count, so it seems someone snuck in, took 1095 pictures with my camera, then reset the file number count back to where it was when they "borrowed" my camera...

Later, I loaded a raw file, DSC_4725.NEF and got a shutter count of 9530. This is only off by 4805. Something seems really amiss in this shutter count stuff, at least on my Nikon 5200, and these two sites doing the counting.

Later still, I loaded my very first picture taken with my brand new camera, DSC_0001 and I got a shutter count of 2. That's only off by 100%. I can't imagine Nikon knows how to keep track of file names, but not shutter counts? Somethings wrong in Denmark, or Georga , or somethin... Both sites report the same numbers so...
I tried these 3 (nikonshuttercount.com failed on m... (show quote)


The file number has nothing to do with shutter count.

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Jul 18, 2022 09:17:36   #
BigDaddy Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
 
Jack47 wrote:
The file number has nothing to do with shutter count.

Okay, please explain?
Seems to me, the number should be exactly the same. One picture = one shutter count = 1 incremented file number?
Obviously, at least on my camera and the web sites extracting the count, this is not true, but why is my question.
Every digital camera I've owned increments the file name once for each picture taken. I guess I have no clue what "shutter count" refers to, so would welcome an explaination.

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Jul 18, 2022 09:19:49   #
BebuLamar
 
BigDaddy wrote:
Okay, please explain?
Seems to me, the number should be exactly the same. One picture = one shutter count = 1 incremented file number?
Obviously, at least on my camera and the web sites extracting the count, this is not true, but why is my question.
Every digital camera I've owned increments the file name once for each picture taken. I guess I have no clue what "shutter count" refers to, so would welcome an explaination.


The image number reset after a certain value I don't know what that is because I often reset my image number when I change card. My image number now is 374.

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Jul 18, 2022 09:30:42   #
Jack 13088 Loc: Central NY
 
BigDaddy wrote:
I tried these 3 (nikonshuttercount.com failed on my Nikon) I picked a random picture (DSC_4084) and they both came up with 5179 for a shutter count based on that picture. That means this particular picture's file name should have been DSC_5179. This is 1095 MORE than the picture file number assigned by my camera which I never change. So theoretically, the file name my camera has assigned should also be the shutter count? I find this a bit curious, no idea why, but I know I didn't change the camera file count, so it seems someone snuck in, took 1095 pictures with my camera, then reset the file number count back to where it was when they "borrowed" my camera...

Later, I loaded a raw file, DSC_4725.NEF and got a shutter count of 9530. This is only off by 4805. Something seems really amiss in this shutter count stuff, at least on my Nikon 5200, and these two sites doing the counting.

Later still, I loaded my very first picture taken with my brand new camera, DSC_0001 and I got a shutter count of 2. That's only off by 100%. I can't imagine Nikon knows how to keep track of file names, but not shutter counts? Somethings wrong in Denmark, or Georga , or somethin... Both sites report the same numbers so...
I tried these 3 (nikonshuttercount.com failed on m... (show quote)


Uh, the shutter account and the file name should be viewed as unrelated. Sort of like your cars odometer and trip indicator. I know Nikon adds shutter count to the Exif data and Canon does not. No big deal. It is what it is.

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Jul 18, 2022 09:32:22   #
Peter Boyd Loc: Blyth nr. Newcastle U.K.
 
JD750 wrote:
When you buy a used car do you ask how many miles it has been driven?


Actually, yes I do!

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Jul 18, 2022 09:46:08   #
BigDaddy Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
 
BebuLamar wrote:
The image number reset after a certain value I don't know what that is because I often reset my image number when I change card. My image number now is 374.

I never never reset my image number on my camera. It is how I keep a chronological count and unique name for each photo. My first digital camera, a Kodak in 1998 somehow reset it's file numbers, either in error, or I managed to unknowingly do it, but that caused me to lose some pics because they had the same file name before I discovered the mistake.
I keep a rather close eye on it ever since, and can assure you the file name of ALL my pictures are cronological and recorded accurately by my camera's. I've not yet had any camera turn over after reaching it's file name limit, which on my Nikon is 9,999. I'll never get close at the rate I now take pictures.

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Jul 18, 2022 09:51:34   #
Jack 13088 Loc: Central NY
 
The number included in the DCIM included as follows:

“ The filesystem in a digital camera contains a DCIM (Digital Camera IMages) directory, which can contain multiple subdirectories with names such as "123ABCDE" that consist of a unique directory number (in the range 100…999) and five alphanumeric characters (or any valid filename characters), which may be freely chosen and often refer to a camera maker. These directories contain files with names such as "ABCD1234.JPG" that consist of four alphanumeric characters (often "100_", "DSC0", "DSCF", "IMG_", "MOV_", or "P000"), followed by a number in the range 0001...9999.”

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Jul 18, 2022 10:39:46   #
HRBIEL Loc: Rapid City, SD
 
JD750 wrote:
When you buy a used car do you ask how many miles it has been driven?


YES!!!

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Jul 18, 2022 10:58:20   #
kufengler Loc: Meridian, Idaho 83646
 
jerryc41 wrote:
What's the big deal about miles on a used car?


It would make a difference in potential value of the used car, and what I would be willing to pay?

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Jul 18, 2022 11:22:47   #
Jack47 Loc: Ontario
 
BigDaddy wrote:
Okay, please explain?
Seems to me, the number should be exactly the same. One picture = one shutter count = 1 incremented file number?
Obviously, at least on my camera and the web sites extracting the count, this is not true, but why is my question.
Every digital camera I've owned increments the file name once for each picture taken. I guess I have no clue what "shutter count" refers to, so would welcome an explaination.


The shutter count is camera related. Since it’s never reset it’s always continuous. The file number starts a new sequence whenever you use a new card or when you format a card.

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Jul 18, 2022 11:24:13   #
BigDaddy Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
 
Jack 13088 wrote:
The number included in the DCIM included as follows:

“ The filesystem in a digital camera contains a DCIM (Digital Camera IMages) directory, which can contain multiple subdirectories with names such as "123ABCDE" that consist of a unique directory number (in the range 100…999) and five alphanumeric characters (or any valid filename characters), which may be freely chosen and often refer to a camera maker. These directories contain files with names such as "ABCD1234.JPG" that consist of four alphanumeric characters (often "100_", "DSC0", "DSCF", "IMG_", "MOV_", or "P000"), followed by a number in the range 0001...9999.”
The number included in the DCIM included as follow... (show quote)

True enough, but the numerical number behind the camera prefix is a accurate count of how many pictures were taken with that camera, sans a camera reset after numerical maximum is reached, or a manual reset by the photographer.

The question remains, why is the shutter count so different from the numerical file name count? Really, my first picture with my Nikon D5200 is DSC_0001 and from that image, the shutter count is 2? That is either wrong, or the definition of "Shutter Count" needs some splainin'.

I know if someone wanted a shutter count of my camera before buying it, and the shutter count is 9530 instead of 4725 someone will need to explain why the shutter count is over by a mere 4,805, almost double the number of pictures actually taken. Whether it's a "big deal" or not I dunno, but I know before the count is meaningful, best to know what the heck it's counting.

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Jul 18, 2022 11:50:21   #
stanikon Loc: Deep in the Heart of Texas
 
jerryc41 wrote:
What's the big deal about miles on a used car?


If all else is equal, would you rather have a used car with 40,000 miles or 140,000 miles? The answer is that the miles already on the car gives you a fair idea of the life left in the car. Same with shutter count. The number of shots taken gives you some idea of the life left in the camera. Do some research - you will find that most cameras are good for X number of shots. Beyond that your are just taking your chances.

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Jul 18, 2022 11:57:04   #
BebuLamar
 
If websites like camerashuttercount.com are correct which I think they are then Nikon did reset my camera shutter count when I sent it in for repair.
I attach 3 images.
One was taken in Jun 2018 and the count was over 5000.
I sent the camera in for repair in Nov 2018.
The second one was taken in April 2019 and the count was less than 400.
The third pictures was taken July 4 this year and the count was 1253.


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Jul 18, 2022 12:16:09   #
BigDaddy Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
 
BebuLamar wrote:
If websites like camerashuttercount.com are correct which I think they are then Nikon did reset my camera shutter count when I sent it in for repair.
I attach 3 images.
One was taken in Jun 2018 and the count was over 5000.
I sent the camera in for repair in Nov 2018.
The second one was taken in April 2019 and the count was less than 400.
The third pictures was taken July 4 this year and the count was 1253.

Websites like camerashuttercount.com are NOT right when counting pictures taken with my Nikon D5200, and are off by almost double. What good is shutter count if it's not correct, and how do you know they are correct IF you messed with the file naming convention of your camera. Since you renamed your first picture, there is no way to determine what number your camera assigned for the file name. 429728-before_001.jpg might mean something to you, but if the original name assigned by your camera was DSC_2500.jpg then the shutter count would be off by double. If it was DSC_5000 and that was the shutter count, that would make sense.

I'm more than reasonably certain my file names are very accurate with all my camera's. I keep close tabs on them. I guess shutter count, as someone said, is not related to number of pictures taken, but no one has even attempted to splain' that oddity.

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Jul 18, 2022 12:38:36   #
BebuLamar
 
BigDaddy wrote:
Websites like camerashuttercount.com are NOT right when counting pictures taken with my Nikon D5200, and are off by almost double. What good is shutter count if it's not correct, and how do you know they are correct IF you messed with the file naming convention of your camera. Since you renamed your first picture, there is no way to determine what number your camera assigned for the file name. 429728-before_001.jpg might mean something to you, but if the original name assigned by your camera was DSC_2500.jpg then the shutter count would be off by double. If it was DSC_5000 and that was the shutter count, that would make sense.

I'm more than reasonably certain my file names are very accurate with all my camera's. I keep close tabs on them. I guess shutter count, as someone said, is not related to number of pictures taken, but no one has even attempted to splain' that oddity.
Websites like camerashuttercount.com are NOT right... (show quote)


I know approximately how many pictures I took. I remember a lot of things.

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