Panasonic Lumix G9 Rumors ???? (Page 2): The ‘H’ in GH6 stands for hybrid. All of the GH models are conceived as “complete” stills/video hybrids. The GH6 is slightly more video...

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

TommiRulz wrote:

At first glance it is marketed as a video camera, I don't do any video, .... just sports and family stuff. The OM-1 looked better for sports with the super fun 120 fps, and it is much lighter, (I don't want a heavy 4/3 seems ridiculous. But it is on back order anyway so it will not help the GAS attack I'm having. I have 7 different 4/3's lenses and my G9 just died - so would like to have a fun, new, 4/3's .

The ‘H’ in GH6 stands for hybrid. All of the GH models are conceived as “complete” stills/video hybrids. The GH6 is slightly more video focused. The G9 is also video capable, but leans towards stills.

My 7-year old GH4 has been great for both uses. It was revolutionary in its early days. But it’s time for replacement. I’ll get the GH6 soon.

The OM-1 is better for sports action, birds in flight, etc.

The BODY is not a big weight saver for high end Micro 4/3. The lenses are where you lighten your total kit weight over larger format systems.

moonhawk Loc: Land of Enchantment

TommiRulz wrote:

Interesting ... the EM1miii looks very cool, I will check it out. Plus it is a year old, I might be able to find a used one

I'll have my em-1mkiii up for sale very soon on the hog. (Got the OM-1) Also my em-1X.

moonhawk Loc: Land of Enchantment

User ID wrote:

Dont know what you mean there. br br Noise is re... (show quote)

I hadn't noticed the 25 MP option, which sounds useful, but the 80 MP is NOT handheld, That is the tripod mode.

SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA

TommiRulz wrote:

The GH6 will not work for my needs, but I just looked into the OM-1 and that looks AWESOME! Thanks for the tip, I might try it out

If you’re primarily a stills shooter I’d go with Olympus, primarily video Panasonic is better, though both are capable of either. I started with a G9 and for everything I loved about it, which was a lot, the AF was just too slow for tracking wildlife so I switched to an E-M1X and it’s a great camera, if somewhat of a beast size wise. I ordered the new OM-1 the day it was announced and I’m really loving this camera. They really knocked it out of the park.

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

SuperflyTNT wrote:

If you’re primarily a stills shooter I’d go with Olympus, primarily video Panasonic is better, though both are capable of either. I started with a G9 and for everything I loved about it, which was a lot, the AF was just too slow for tracking wildlife so I switched to an E-M1X and it’s a great camera, if somewhat of a beast size wise. I ordered the new OM-1 the day it was announced and I’m really loving this camera. They really knocked it out of the park.

Yes, I would say the same, the OM-1 is a better stills camera and the GH6 is a better video camera. The CDAF is vastly improved on the GH6 over everything Lumix has done previously, but it is still not up to the standards of Sony, Canon, or even Nikon. The majority of YouTube reviewers clobbered them over it. They're all "walk and talk" people who need AF that locks on and stays there. Funny; you can adjust the settings to do that quite well! They just never bother to read the manual and do it.

I think Panasonic has finally awakened and realized that PDAF is a necessity. They would sell far more cameras with it than without it. That said, the hard core Lumix GH and SH filmmakers don't often need or use AF anyway.

hpucker99 Loc: Anchorage, Alaska

wdross wrote:

One more item: there seems to be a high demand for 4/3rds right now. The OM-1 camera bodies are on back order and OMDS is no longer taking 150-400 f4.5 Pro IS orders until they build the orders that they already have. To the best of my knowledge, Panasonic is in a "similar boat" but with less delays for the back orders.

I went to my local camera store (Mike's Camera) last week to place an order for the OM-1. They had them in stock in the Denver area and I picked it up 2 days later. The 150-400 lens on the GetOlympus website is not taking orders but allows you to reserve one. B&H will allow you to place an order (and pay) but lists a 4 to 6 month wait period.

User ID

moonhawk wrote:

I hadn't noticed the 25 MP option, which sounds useful, but the 80 MP is NOT handheld, That is the tripod mode.

Just checked. We are both *slightly* off.

You might be thinking of the mkII. The mkIII does do hand held hi rez, raw or jpeg, but the limit is *50MP*, not the 80MP that I had written. 80 remains stuck on a tripod.

Anywho dropping from 50 hand held to 25 to reduce file size ? Clearly, on a 20MP camera thaz not about hi rez mode but is about noise reduction thru compositing ... or as Sony names it "Hand held Twilight".

Acoarst 50MP hand held is also providing noise reduction as well. I want one :-)

moonhawk Loc: Land of Enchantment

User ID wrote:

Just checked. We are both *slightly* off. br br Y... (show quote)

Right, I knew there was a 50 MP handheld. Just pointing out that 80 MP was not.

moonhawk Loc: Land of Enchantment

User ID wrote:

Acoarst 50MP hand held is also providing noise reduction as well. I want one :-)

If you mean the mkiii, I have one for sale as I mentioned before. PM me if interested. Also an em1x.

wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado

moonhawk wrote:

I hadn't noticed the 25 MP option, which sounds useful, but the 80 MP is NOT handheld, That is the tripod mode.

With the new OM-1, it is supposed to be handheld on both the E-M1 mkIII and OM-1. The OM-1 was even demonstrated in a video as being faster that the E-M1 mkIII. It actually uses the slight movement caused by one's hands to generate the image.

User ID

moonhawk wrote:

Right, I knew there was a 50 MP handheld. Just pointing out that 80 MP was not.

Yes, and I was just pointing out that on the one hand truly high rez (whether 50 or 80 no matter) is joined into the same feature/mode with an ordinary rez choice (25) whose only real usefulness could be noise reduction, yet OMD just calls it file size economizing.

That is my real point, that marketing materials are sometimes misguided. Noise reduction is very valuable, yet it goes unmentioned. The 5 extra MP is negligible yet that is what is marketed.

moonhawk Loc: Land of Enchantment

User ID wrote:

Yes, and I was just pointing out that on the one hand truly high rez (whether 50 or 80 no matter) is joined into the same feature/mode with an ordinary rez choice (25) whose only real usefulness could be noise reduction, yet OMD just calls it file size economizing.

That is my real point, that marketing materials are sometimes misguided. Noise reduction is very valuable, yet it goes unmentioned. The 5 extra MP is negligible yet that is what is marketed.

I do agree with all of the above. Since most of my shooting is birds these days, I haven't really used the high rez modes. I have them in "My Menu", though, for when I get jazzed about landscapes. And some of my stuff I wish I had the ability to use HR, just for the noise reduction you mention. Generally the birds don't cooperate much.

User ID

moonhawk wrote:

If you mean the mkiii, I have one for sale as I mentioned before. PM me if interested. Also an em1x.

Wishing you success on that. The used price is still too stiff for me.

User ID

moonhawk wrote:

I do agree with all of the above. Since most of my shooting is birds these days, I haven't really used the high rez modes. I have them in "My Menu", though, for when I get jazzed about landscapes. And some of my stuff I wish I had the ability to use HR, just for the noise reduction you mention. Generally the birds don't cooperate much.

Maybe you could train some birds ?

POVDOV

I am looking at a Oly M-1 body and lenses to replace my Canon equipment. I do bird photography and at my age the weight and size of Canon's body and 800 mm Lens is too much. Oly's M-1 really gets close to Canon's animal eye detect feature. I have a Panasonic GX 8 and I love that camera and its a keeper. The Lumix GH 6 does not have the tracking capability of the Canon or the Olympus. This is a big decision $ wise, but I believe the lighter weight and high shutter speed will give me gear that is comparable with Canon's R6. The M-1 is on back order so I will wait until it is restocked.