abc1234 Loc: Elk Grove Village, Illinois

I am mulling over going from my Canon 80D to either the Canon EOS R or Sony A6600. I have several Sigma lenses and a Canon flash. Either camera would require a lens adapter and the Sony would require a new flash. The Canon is in stock while the Sony is backordered. The Canon is full-frame while the Sony is APS-C. Neither this nor the file size is a significant matter to me. I do like the smaller Sony body. The main thing I am looking for is great accuracy in focusing. People, sports, wildlife and flowers are my main subjects.

What would you advise to do: stick with the 80D or switch to the R or A6600? Or do you suggest another move?

Thanks in advance. Please stay on topic.

DWU2 Loc: Phoenix Arizona area

Some reviews of the A6600 have been unfavorable, such as this one: https://www.engadget.com/2019-11-07-sony-a6600-review-misstep.html

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

Everything you have lens and flash wise will work with the R.
All EF and EF-S lens are 100% compatible with the R.
Also Canon is aggressively putting out amazing RF lenses that Sony lacks.
People say Sony has lots more lenses and for the moment that is true.
Look at the line up though and half those lenses are duplicates or more.

abc1234 Loc: Elk Grove Village, Illinois

I would like to stay with my lenses. I thought you need the mount adapter to use the EF and EF-S lenses.

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

Yes there is an adapter needed but it actually improves the functionality of your current lenses.
Or get the control adapter and your lenses add new features as found on the RF lenses.
Canon really thought it through in keeping EF type lenses up to date with the latest RF type features.
Adapting to Sony you step down.

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

I really like Sony’s high end pro models, but the A6600 is not a favorite pick for me.

The 80D is a fine camera, but if you’re going to update, go mirrorless.

I’d stick with Canon R if you have any EF lenses. They adapt best to Canon mirrorless bodies with Canon’s own adapter.

Doing that would also leverage much of what you know about Canon menus and ergonomics.

If you want overall system (camera bagful) weight savings, move to OM Digital Solutions and their new (digital) Olympus OM-1, but buy native Micro 4/3 lenses if you can. If you record lots of video, get a Lumix GH6, also in the Micro 4/3 system.

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

It depends on what EF lenses you have already. Just changing from one 24MP cropped sensor camera to another, simply to remove the mirror, doesn't make any sense at all. Using your EF-S lenses on a full-frame mirrorless camera and dropping from 24MP resolution on the EOS 80D to just 12MP on the 1.6x crop of the EOS R, just to remove a mirror, doesn't make any sense at all.

I added a metabones EF adapter this winter for my Sony a7II. The focusing is good enough, but not as fast & accurate as the same lenses on the EOS body. It's fast and hit or miss, or slow and just as good, but definitely not fast & accurate.

Your current lenses are the driver, where also, the 'why' of the moving away from a modern and professional 24MP camera to any other camera is a relevant question along with 'what' next.

E.L.. Shapiro Loc: Ottawa, Ontario Canada

Unfortunately, as per your question, unlike many of the knowledgable members here of uHH, I am not intimately familiar with every piece of equipment that I do not use or have first-hand experience with. Some of us professionals are kinda boring as compared to camera collectors or the folks that are continuously changing up their gear. If, however, you find your preset gear is not addressing your needs, it is best to arrange an in-person demonstration of the various makes and models you are considering.

In my own cases, I find a make and system that addressed my requirements and use it until it no longer addresses my needs or finally disintegrates. Usually, when I am finished with a camera it has little or no resale value!

My advice is to stick with compatibility. Select a camera that is compatible with your present lens inventory, unless you want to reinvest more glass. For a number of reasons, I started with Canon gear when I finally transitioned all my studio operations to digital. Nothing wrong with Nikon or Sony, it was just that I had some special purpose Canan glass from my previous film systems.

For me, it is difficult to advise on a camera or system for anyone else. It's a matter of ergonomics. Each person has different levels of dexterity, the ability to steady large cameras and lenses, and of course specific photographic needs.

As for cross-brand adaptation, just make certain conversion will accommodate prop focusing at infinity, etc.

At the time, I have no need for a mirrorless camera. Perhaps they are more nimble and handy for fast shootg situations. After many years of shooting action, sports, events and more with big bulkey large and medium form film equipment and heavy flash units, my preset DSLR system seems almost weightless.

As for flash, again the compatibility things are important. I do most of my flash work in manual mode but if you depend on TTL exposure management, you need to make certain that your flash gear is compatible with any new camer system.

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I wouldnt spend the price of an EOS R on a body without IBIS. I would consider the RP cuz its more rationally priced as a non IBIS body. Size also favors the RP.

abc1234 Loc: Elk Grove Village, Illinois

When you say 100% compatible, do you mean that I do not need the lens mount adapter?

abc1234 Loc: Elk Grove Village, Illinois

I am seeing conflicting information here. Is the adapter absolutely necessary? Are you saying two different adapters are available?

abc1234 Loc: Elk Grove Village, Illinois

Thanks for your response. I do not mind learning a new camera but I am not nearly as open to buying all new lenses. I have all Sigma: 105 macro, 24-70 f/2.8, 70-200 f/2.8, and 150-600 C. A lot of glass to rebuy. Plus the expensive 550EX flash.

abc1234 Loc: Elk Grove Village, Illinois

Please see my other post on my lenses. I sure do like those Sigma's. Going down on file size is out of the question. I agree with you. Why the change? To save some weight and size, to improve sensor quality, in-body stabilization, and better focusing. I am not sure how noticeable the difference in sensor quality might be, the stabilization is not that big of a deal for me. The focusing is. For still or nearly subjects, the 80D is fine. For sports and wildlife in motion, I am never quite satisfied with the 80D focusing performance. I do not know how much is myself or the camera.

BebuLamar

Perhaps a 7D with better focusing performance?

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This pair does most everything. BUT !!!! Its *definitely* NOT for lemmings.

Ive added a pancake and theres nothing left to drop any $$$ on.

To choose a system, look in a mirror ;-)

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