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Apr 28, 2022 12:34:52   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
R.G. wrote:
A standard zoom will be enough for most outdoor shots but indoor shots really require a wide, bright lens. If you make that a wide, moderately bright prime lens it shouldn't be too big or heavy, especially if you can get a crop sensor version for your camera. If you insist on taking just one lens you'll have to settle for a compromise.


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Apr 28, 2022 12:39:42   #
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GeneinChi wrote:
Going to Scotland for 17 days in October. As I see it, there are all sorts of photo ops from inside abandoned castles to city scenes to gorgeous landscapes and everything in between. I only want to take one lens on a Sony a6400. If you’ve been to Scotland, what lens would you recommend? Thank you in advance..
Gene

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Apr 28, 2022 13:11:23   #
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BB4A wrote:
Apologies in advance if I offend, but… you’re not giving us a chance to give real World feedback (I’ve lived and travelled extensively in Scotland on a variety of photography expeditions) because you haven’t actually given us a clue on what you want to do with a camera, in those 17 days?

1. First question, why are you going to Scotland? Vacation (and what’s the theme & locations of the stay), Work, Visiting Family, Other? It would be useful to know how much time (for travel and shooting) & where in Scotland you can take time for your photography.

2. What do you want to shoot? What’s your favorite genre, that your “photographers eye” would be most naturally drawn to? Moody, wet & windswept Landscapes? Foxes and Red Deer photographic stalking in the subpolar western highlands? (BTW, both those locations will feel VERY subpolar, in October…). You mention Abandoned Castles; there’s some wonderful photo opportunities, but there’s a reason why all of them are abandoned… most of them bring a whole new meaning to the phrase “off the beaten track”.

3. Where? Obvious, but if you want to shoot the seabirds of Stac an Armin, then that’s going to take a lot more planning and prep than an impromptu walkabout & street photography shoot in the Royal Mile. Have you considered your travel needs to get to those locations, and how that will affect the equipment you need to bring?

4. Finally, what photographs are your highest priority? As you have a maximum of 17 potential days to shoot, and Scotland is a very large country, with nearly every variation of terrain you can find in NE Europe, you will probably have to prioritize your objectives. You also need to consider the weatherproofing of your camera equipment; Scotland is the windiest and the wettest country in Europe.
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Sooooo bogus. "The wise and thorough advisor" role play. None of that actually matters. Anyone can handle any tourist trek with any reasonable "one lens". No need for "sage analysis".

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Apr 28, 2022 13:12:08   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
User ID wrote:
Sooooo bogus. "The wise and thorough advisor" role play. None of that actually matters. Anyone can handle any tourist trek with any reasonable "one lens". No need for "sage analysis".


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Apr 28, 2022 14:47:20   #
azted Loc: Las Vegas, NV.
 
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Sooooo bogus. "The wise and thorough advisor" role play. None of that actually matters. Anyone can handle any tourist trek with any reasonable "one lens". No need for "sage analysis".


I agree with your demonstration. In dark interiors, that 20mm f2.8 would be the choice, and it is so small, that taking it along is meaningless! Combined with the 18-105 is a winner!

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Apr 28, 2022 16:41:31   #
zug55 Loc: Naivasha, Kenya, and Austin, Texas
 
Some recommended the 24-105mm lens. This is a great lens for full-frame--I always use it for travel on my A7 III. While it works on an a6400, it will give you a 36-160mm range, with the crop factor, which is not wide enough if you plan to take just one lens.

The obvious lens is the Sony 18-135mm. It is sharp, image-stabilized, and suitable to be the only lens on a trip. I used it on several trips with my a6000 and was really happy. I have since given up the APS-C format and gave lens and camera to my son.

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Apr 28, 2022 20:13:50   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
zug55 wrote:
Some recommended the 24-105mm lens. This is a great lens for full-frame--I always use it for travel on my A7 III. While it works on an a6400, it will give you a 36-160mm range, with the crop factor, which is not wide enough if you plan to take just one lens.

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I use an 18-200 on an APS-C camera. It is what it is, and I live with it.
"Wide enough" is relative to the user, eh?

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Apr 28, 2022 21:41:33   #
rgrenaderphoto Loc: Hollywood, CA
 
GeneinChi wrote:
Going to Scotland for 17 days in October. As I see it, there are all sorts of photo ops from inside abandoned castles to city scenes to gorgeous landscapes and everything in between. I only want to take one lens on a Sony a6400. If you’ve been to Scotland, what lens would you recommend? Thank you in advance..
Gene


I've schlepped DLSRs and Mirrorless cameras all over the world and ended up only really using two lenses. A medium wide-angle zoom for sightseeing and a 50mm or 35mm for street or casual shooting.

For a Sony APS-C, look at the Tamron 18-300mm f/3.5-6.3 D for a great all-around lens.

Right now, my travel camera of choice is a Fuji XT-4 with a Tamron 18-300 and a Fuji 35 mm lens.

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Apr 29, 2022 03:13:13   #
zug55 Loc: Naivasha, Kenya, and Austin, Texas
 
Longshadow wrote:
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I use an 18-200 on an APS-C camera. It is what it is, and I live with it.
"Wide enough" is relative to the user, eh?


"Wide enough" indeed is a relative term, and different photographers legitimately have a different take on what is wide enough.

In the other part of my answer, I recommended the Sony 18-135mm--which is remarkably similar to the 18-200mm you are using, particularly at the wide end. So where is the disagreement? OP has a Sony a6400 and wants *one* light-weight lens suitable for a trip to Scotland. In my humble opinion, the Sony 18-135mm, while not perfect, comes close to meeting that objective.

The underlying issue is that many UHH users wildly mix full-frame and APS-C in their discussion. While the focal lenfth of course does not change, whether it is used on a APS-C or full-frame body, what the lenses do on the respective bodies changes a lot because of the crop factor involved.

Specifically here, some folks recommended a 24-105mm lens. This is a full-frame lens, which is a great one-and-done travel lens if strapped on a full-frame body, like my Sony A7 III. If OP were to use it on an APS-C body, like his Sony a6400, it would be 36mm (full-frame equivalent) at its widest, which in my humble opinion is not "wide enough" for an all-purpose travel lens. This is based on my significant travel experience--I am currently based in Nairobi and am on a two-month side trip to Ireland, Spain, Portugal, France (from where I write this), Germany, Switzerland, and Sweden. The 18-135mm would bring that to 27mm full-frame equivalent, which is not perfect but more workable than 36mm full-frame equivalent. As you say, it is what it is.

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Apr 29, 2022 05:34:42   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Longshadow wrote:
I've been to Iceland, took only my 18-200.
Iceland, Scotland, Maine, location doesn't matter to me.
Wherever I go, the 18-200 will go, along with the 50mm.
But that's me. I like to travel light.



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Apr 29, 2022 05:47:30   #
Peterfiore Loc: Where DR goes south
 
I went to Italy with a Fuji XE-1 and a 27mm pancake—40mm equivalent...all was good. Light and quick to use.

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Apr 29, 2022 06:22:22   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
I cannot advise you on a lens for your Sony camera because the mirrorless I use is an Olympus. Nikon is what I use as a dSLR.
When I visited the island of Mallorca, in Spain, I took my Nikon D610 (full frame) with three lenses but the majority of the images I made were made using my 28-105 D AF.

I agree with others that something like a 24-105 should cover a lot of photo opportunities.

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Apr 29, 2022 06:24:44   #
PhotoDerek Loc: County Durham, UK.
 
Rain cover for camera and you.
Have a great time.

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Apr 29, 2022 06:36:17   #
traderjohn Loc: New York City
 
Longshadow wrote:
Wow, I didn't know photography life could be so complicated.


It really isn't. People complicate it. The paranoia of backing up everything three times, "spare" cameras.

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Apr 29, 2022 06:48:39   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
zug55 wrote:
"Wide enough" indeed is a relative term, and different photographers legitimately have a different take on what is wide enough.

In the other part of my answer, I recommended the Sony 18-135mm--which is remarkably similar to the 18-200mm you are using, particularly at the wide end. So where is the disagreement? OP has a Sony a6400 and wants *one* light-weight lens suitable for a trip to Scotland. In my humble opinion, the Sony 18-135mm, while not perfect, comes close to meeting that objective.

The underlying issue is that many UHH users wildly mix full-frame and APS-C in their discussion. While the focal lenfth of course does not change, whether it is used on a APS-C or full-frame body, what the lenses do on the respective bodies changes a lot because of the crop factor involved.

Specifically here, some folks recommended a 24-105mm lens. This is a full-frame lens, which is a great one-and-done travel lens if strapped on a full-frame body, like my Sony A7 III. If OP were to use it on an APS-C body, like his Sony a6400, it would be 36mm (full-frame equivalent) at its widest, which in my humble opinion is not "wide enough" for an all-purpose travel lens. This is based on my significant travel experience--I am currently based in Nairobi and am on a two-month side trip to Ireland, Spain, Portugal, France (from where I write this), Germany, Switzerland, and Sweden. The 18-135mm would bring that to 27mm full-frame equivalent, which is not perfect but more workable than 36mm full-frame equivalent. As you say, it is what it is.
"Wide enough" indeed is a relative term,... (show quote)

I still refer to the lens as what it is, 18-200.
Whatever the field of view between camera formats is, it is relative, I don't worry about it.
"This" is what I get on my <APS-C> camera with an 18-200.
I acknowledge the difference, but don't worry about, nor do I dwell on it it.

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