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Sep 27, 2021 16:48:02   #
flip1948 Loc: Hamden, CT
 
NikonRumors today reprinted a translated article by a Japanese author who is speculating that the success of the Nikon Dfc may lead to a retro full frame mirrorless camera...basically a mirrorless Df.

This is pure speculation by the author but he has much to say about his thoughts on the design and operation of such a camera.

He thinks such a camera could be based on the F2, but personally prefers that it be based on the F3.

Some of his ideas are a bit far-fetched such as allowing the user to choose the option of having film sprocket holes superimposed at the top and bottom of the frame...really?

He would also like some film emulations: Fuji Velvia, Kodachrome and Kodak Tri-X with the ability to add grain to the Tri-X emulation.

My D610 does have Fuji Velvia emulation. I tried it along with Vivid color saturation and found the combination to be overkill...too much color saturation.

The idea of such a camera is interesting, but would it sell? If Nikon thought it would sell, we may see it.

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Sep 27, 2021 16:53:35   #
Quixdraw Loc: x
 
Have & regularly use a DF, certainly don't need another Nikon. In Re: Film Emulation, Yorkiebyte posted this a while back. https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-668486-1.html

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Sep 27, 2021 17:00:35   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Big whoop.
—Bob


flip1948 wrote:
NikonRumors today reprinted a translated article by a Japanese author who is speculating that the success of the Nikon Dfc may lead to a retro full frame mirrorless camera...basically a mirrorless Df.

This is pure speculation by the author but he has much to say about his thoughts on the design and operation of such a camera.

He thinks such a camera could be based on the F2, but personally prefers that it be based on the F3.

Some of his ideas are a bit far-fetched such as allowing the user to choose the option of having film sprocket holes superimposed at the top and bottom of the frame...really?

He would also like some film emulations: Fuji Velvia, Kodachrome and Kodak Tri-X with the ability to add grain to the Tri-X emulation.

My D610 does have Fuji Velvia emulation. I tried it along with Vivid color saturation and found the combination to be overkill...too much color saturation.

The idea of such a camera is interesting, but would it sell? If Nikon thought it would sell, we may see it.
NikonRumors today reprinted a translated article b... (show quote)

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Sep 27, 2021 17:57:58   #
repleo Loc: Boston
 
I think the DF was intended for those who missed the look and feel of their old film cameras. A mirrorless Df will probably have to have the look and feel of a DSLR.

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Sep 27, 2021 18:33:14   #
BebuLamar
 
flip1948 wrote:
NikonRumors today reprinted a translated article by a Japanese author who is speculating that the success of the Nikon Dfc may lead to a retro full frame mirrorless camera...basically a mirrorless Df.

This is pure speculation by the author but he has much to say about his thoughts on the design and operation of such a camera.

He thinks such a camera could be based on the F2, but personally prefers that it be based on the F3.

Some of his ideas are a bit far-fetched such as allowing the user to choose the option of having film sprocket holes superimposed at the top and bottom of the frame...really?

He would also like some film emulations: Fuji Velvia, Kodachrome and Kodak Tri-X with the ability to add grain to the Tri-X emulation.

My D610 does have Fuji Velvia emulation. I tried it along with Vivid color saturation and found the combination to be overkill...too much color saturation.

The idea of such a camera is interesting, but would it sell? If Nikon thought it would sell, we may see it.
NikonRumors today reprinted a translated article b... (show quote)


You posted this on the 27th of September. You know what the Nikon Zfc is like by now don't you?

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Sep 27, 2021 18:36:56   #
flip1948 Loc: Hamden, CT
 
BebuLamar wrote:
You posted this on the 27th of September. You know what the Nikon Zfc is like by now don't you?

This is not about the Dfc...it's about what amounts to nothing but a dream of a FULL FRAME retro mirrorless Nikon.

The Dfc is cropped sensor.

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Sep 27, 2021 18:41:03   #
BebuLamar
 
flip1948 wrote:
This is not about the Dfc...it's about what amounts to nothing but a dream of a FULL FRAME retro mirrorless Nikon.

The Dfc is cropped sensor.


There is no Dfc even in rumor. There is the Zfc which is available for a while now and several UHH members already have it.
A full frame retro mirrorless shouldn't be called Dfc but rather Zf. The c is for cropped. Z is for mirrorless and f is an f look alike.

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Sep 27, 2021 21:44:24   #
flip1948 Loc: Hamden, CT
 
BebuLamar wrote:
There is no Dfc even in rumor. There is the Zfc which is available for a while now and several UHH members already have it.
A full frame retro mirrorless shouldn't be called Dfc but rather Zf. The c is for cropped. Z is for mirrorless and f is an f look alike.


Ooops....mea culpa, mea maxima culpa

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Sep 27, 2021 22:18:47   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
repleo wrote:
I think the DF was intended for those who missed the look and feel of their old film cameras. A mirrorless Df will probably have to have the look and feel of a DSLR.


"A mirrorless Df will probably have to have the look and feel of a DSLR"

Apparently you have never seen the new Nikon Z fc mirrorless body. It has an APS-C sensor, but there is no reason that Nikon could not design and build a full framed version..


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Sep 27, 2021 22:21:53   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
flip1948 wrote:
This is not about the Dfc...it's about what amounts to nothing but a dream of a FULL FRAME retro mirrorless Nikon.

The Dfc is cropped sensor.


I think you mean Z fc, not Dfc.

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Sep 27, 2021 22:30:30   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
BebuLamar wrote:
There is no Dfc even in rumor. There is the Zfc which is available for a while now and several UHH members already have it.
A full frame retro mirrorless shouldn't be called Dfc but rather Zf. The c is for cropped. Z is for mirrorless and f is an f look alike.


Actually according to Nikon the "c" does not stand for "cropped". Here is a quote from Nikon's release announcement.

"The letter "f" in the Z fc's name is a reference to models with symbolic importance in Nikon's history, while also being inspired by the word "fusion," representing the coming together of tactile precision mechanics and high image quality. The letter "c", meanwhile, conveys Nikon's wish for this camera, with all its inherited tradition, to be used by anyone, anywhere, "casually"."

https://www.nikon.com/news/2021/0629_mirrorless_01.htm

So, the "f" refers to the various F film camera models as well as the word fusion, and the "c" stands for casual.

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Sep 27, 2021 23:28:06   #
flip1948 Loc: Hamden, CT
 
mwsilvers wrote:
I think you mean Z fc, not Dfc.

I know...see my ooops response above.

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Sep 28, 2021 04:51:49   #
User ID
 
repleo wrote:
I think the DF was intended for those who missed the look and feel of their old film cameras. A mirrorless Df will probably have to have the look and feel of a DSLR.

Thinking of the digital Pen-F. It doesn’t mimic a DSLR, it mimics a 1/2 frame film SLR. Nikon could build something similar to the Sony a7-c but with a more retro controls arrangement.

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Sep 28, 2021 05:45:18   #
JohnR Loc: The Gates of Hell
 
Gosh - have you seen the time ?? Where's it all gone ???

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Sep 28, 2021 06:13:45   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
flip1948 wrote:
NikonRumors today reprinted a translated article by a Japanese author who is speculating that the success of the Nikon Dfc may lead to a retro full frame mirrorless camera...basically a mirrorless Df.

This is pure speculation by the author but he has much to say about his thoughts on the design and operation of such a camera.

He thinks such a camera could be based on the F2, but personally prefers that it be based on the F3.

Some of his ideas are a bit far-fetched such as allowing the user to choose the option of having film sprocket holes superimposed at the top and bottom of the frame...really?

He would also like some film emulations: Fuji Velvia, Kodachrome and Kodak Tri-X with the ability to add grain to the Tri-X emulation.

My D610 does have Fuji Velvia emulation. I tried it along with Vivid color saturation and found the combination to be overkill...too much color saturation.

The idea of such a camera is interesting, but would it sell? If Nikon thought it would sell, we may see it.
NikonRumors today reprinted a translated article b... (show quote)


Those who hold onto past ideas are prone to get stuck there.

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