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Aug 28, 2021 16:11:01   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
There is NO evidence that cloth and those blue "surgical" masks that almost everybody wears that they prevent any virus from passing through then.. NONE. And there is evidence that they let viruese pass through them. The n95 masks work but fery few wear them. There is evidence that those useless masks actyally harn young children, by increasing CO2 levels in the air that those masks increases. The risk to young children wearing those masks is much less than the risk of the yearly flu, for which no mask is required. Don't believe me . Check it out

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Aug 28, 2021 16:11:40   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
boberic wrote:
There is NO evidence that cloth and those blue "surgical" masks that almost everybody wears that they prevent any virus from passing through then.. NONE. And there is evidence that they let viruese pass through them. The n95 masks work but fery few wear them. There is evidence that those useless masks actyally harn young children, by increasing CO2 levels in the air that those masks increases. The risk to young children wearing those masks is much less than the risk of the yearly flu, for which no mask is required. Don't believe me . Check it out
There is NO evidence that cloth and those blue &qu... (show quote)


What's a "nask"?

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Aug 28, 2021 16:24:03   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
Racmanaz wrote:
What's a "nask"?


I just noticed that. I may have time to correct the silly error

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Aug 28, 2021 16:27:35   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
boberic wrote:
I just noticed that. I may have time to correct the silly error


Fixed it

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Aug 28, 2021 16:59:32   #
mikee
 
boberic wrote:
There is NO evidence that cloth and those blue "surgical" masks that almost everybody wears that they prevent any virus from passing through then.. NONE. And there is evidence that they let viruese pass through them. The n95 masks work but fery few wear them. There is evidence that those useless masks actyally harn young children, by increasing CO2 levels in the air that those masks increases. The risk to young children wearing those masks is much less than the risk of the yearly flu, for which no mask is required. Don't believe me . Check it out
There is NO evidence that cloth and those blue &qu... (show quote)


I did, in high school. Your logic is false.

Masks stop droplets, which have viruses in them. Droplets in our coughs and sneezes carry viruses.

CO2 is a molecule so small it freely passes through mask materials. Don't believe me? Go into a closet and close the door. Just the tiny cracks around the door allow the CO2 to dispense out of the closet. Gas molecules are in motion.

Go back to high school.

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Aug 28, 2021 17:13:28   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
mikee wrote:
I did, in high school. Your logic is false.

Masks stop droplets, which have viruses in them. Droplets in our coughs and sneezes carry viruses.

CO2 is a molecule so small it freely passes through mask materials. Don't believe me? Go into a closet and close the door. Just the tiny cracks around the door allow the CO2 to dispense out of the closet. Gas molecules are in motion.

Go back to high school.


Masks may stop droplets that have the virus initially, but you seem to forget that those droplets evaporate quickly when you breath air through them and exhale. then those little viruses are free to roam through those little holes in the masks because the water droplets are no longer hosting the virus and holding them back. Go back to kindergarten.



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Aug 28, 2021 17:25:00   #
tramsey Loc: Texas
 
I wear two masks and a shield.
I'm back to carrying hand santizer with me where ever I go, washing my clothes when I come home from shopping and then taking a shower and all the other things I did back in January

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Aug 28, 2021 20:06:12   #
BadPhoto Loc: Maryland
 
boberic wrote:
I just noticed that. I may have time to correct the silly error


The entire post is a silly error.

Masks are effective; lots of studies prove it. You want to make a claim like that, you need some verifiable proof. Otherwise, put on your damn mask.

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Aug 29, 2021 01:50:42   #
btbg
 
mikee wrote:
I did, in high school. Your logic is false.

Masks stop droplets, which have viruses in them. Droplets in our coughs and sneezes carry viruses.

CO2 is a molecule so small it freely passes through mask materials. Don't believe me? Go into a closet and close the door. Just the tiny cracks around the door allow the CO2 to dispense out of the closet. Gas molecules are in motion.

Go back to high school.


boberic is correct, there is no evidence that masks work. There is plenty of evidence that masks don't work. We know that you will blindly listen to Fauci and the CDC, but Fauci said in an email, so it's on the record, "The typical mask you buy in the drugstore is not really effective in keeping out virus, which is small enough to pass through the material. It might however, provide some slight benefit in keeping out gross droplets if someone coughs are sneezes on you."

In other words masks do not work, at best they may provide some slight benefit, but they do not prevent the spread of virus.

The CDC also knows that masks don't work. They proved that in Vietnam in 2015. Now, they claim that study was flawed, because among other things it was done only among health care professionals, and those professionals might not have properly used their masks. Also, it isn't valid according to the CDC because it studied viruses, but not specifically covid. So, they also know that masks don't work. Everyone who has bothered to look at the data knows they don't work.

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Aug 29, 2021 01:52:30   #
btbg
 
BadPhoto wrote:
The entire post is a silly error.

Masks are effective; lots of studies prove it. You want to make a claim like that, you need some verifiable proof. Otherwise, put on your damn mask.


We have given verifiable proof over and over again. Yes, you and your ilk still won't listen. CDC study in Vietnam in 2015. Danish study in 2020. Marine study on Paris Island. All show masks doing the same or worse than no masks.

They are the only studies I can find that compare masks to no masks in the same environment, and all give the same outcome.

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Aug 29, 2021 10:05:08   #
mjmoore17 Loc: Philadelphia, PA area
 
btbg wrote:
We have given verifiable proof over and over again. Yes, you and your ilk still won't listen. CDC study in Vietnam in 2015. Danish study in 2020. Marine study on Paris Island. All show masks doing the same or worse than no masks.

They are the only studies I can find that compare masks to no masks in the same environment, and all give the same outcome.


If anyone looked at the comparisons between states masked and those unmasked, it would clear. Masks do work. They keep schools safer. Only old people that will sell themselves to the highest bidder disagree. Get vaccinated and wear a mask.

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Aug 29, 2021 10:46:26   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
tramsey wrote:
I wear two masks and a shield.
I'm back to carrying hand santizer with me where ever I go, washing my clothes when I come home from shopping and then taking a shower and all the other things I did back in January


I'm ok with that as long as you are not mandated to do so by the Government.

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Aug 29, 2021 11:25:24   #
btbg
 
mjmoore17 wrote:
If anyone looked at the comparisons between states masked and those unmasked, it would clear. Masks do work. They keep schools safer. Only old people that will sell themselves to the highest bidder disagree. Get vaccinated and wear a mask.


Those comparisons prove nothing. In order to prove mask efficacy they have to be tested against a control group. Every study which has done that shows they do not work.

And, the comparisons between states do not show what you are claiming. For example, the deaths per 100,000 in California are almost identical to Florida. And, California not only had mask mandates they locked down virtually everything, while Florida was much more open. So, there are more variables in the comparison than just masks.

New York and New Jersey had mask mandates throughout the pandemic and have the highest death rates. South Dakota has not only had no mask mandates, they have run business as usual and have 233 deaths per 100,000 versus 301 in New Jersey. You can go through the data all you want, but it does not show an advantage to wearing masks. And, I repeat all studies that have looked at masks versus a control group in the same location show no evidence that masks work.

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Aug 29, 2021 13:39:47   #
mjmoore17 Loc: Philadelphia, PA area
 
btbg wrote:
Those comparisons prove nothing. In order to prove mask efficacy they have to be tested against a control group. Every study which has done that shows they do not work.

And, the comparisons between states do not show what you are claiming. For example, the deaths per 100,000 in California are almost identical to Florida. And, California not only had mask mandates they locked down virtually everything, while Florida was much more open. So, there are more variables in the comparison than just masks.

New York and New Jersey had mask mandates throughout the pandemic and have the highest death rates. South Dakota has not only had no mask mandates, they have run business as usual and have 233 deaths per 100,000 versus 301 in New Jersey. You can go through the data all you want, but it does not show an advantage to wearing masks. And, I repeat all studies that have looked at masks versus a control group in the same location show no evidence that masks work.
Those comparisons prove nothing. In order to prove... (show quote)


And yet you do not mind being a liar. Wear your mask.

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Aug 29, 2021 14:11:37   #
Alafoto Loc: Montgomery, AL
 
Racmanaz wrote:
What's a "nask"?


A Neutered As- Kisser. Ie.: Biden?

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