The ONLY reason: There is one and only one reason to vote for Trump or against Biden. Oil and Gas. It's simple. Trump wants to continue US production. Biden wants to end it. End of...

boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander

There is one and only one reason to vote for Trump or against Biden. Oil and Gas. It's simple. Trump wants to continue US production. Biden wants to end it. End of Story.. Russia, China, India and the Middle east are all praying that Biden will win and fulffill his pronise to end US fossil fuel production. It will strengthen their economies at the expense of ours.

Harry0 Loc: Gardena, Cal

You is bass ackwards.
By reducing our dependence on a dwindling energy supply, that increases our independence.
More and better electric cars will lessen air pollution. Fuel trucks on freeways. Less need to increase refinery profligation.
More and better insulated electric houses means less house fires, and those easier to put out.
T Rumps oil and coal rulings didn't make things better for us- it took liability away from polluters.
Take away the incentives for wind and solar, and the next energy crisis will cripple us.

slocumeddie Loc: Inside your head, again

Harry0 wrote:

You is bass ackwards. br By reducing our dependenc... (show quote)

The next energy crisis, if it occurs, will be a direct result of policies promoted by the left.....

boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander

Harry0 wrote:

You is bass ackwards. br By reducing our dependenc... (show quote)

Electric cars is a good thing, better insulation also. But there is no way to replace fossil fuel energy production with renewables. And you don't recognize the employmaent o hundreds o thousands who rely on ossil uel usae. ecause the cost o ossil uels will increase the cost o evreythin will go up. Everything gets delivvered by truck, train, or plane. These MUST bbe powered by fossil fuels. When oil and gas are more expensive EVERYTHING is more expensive. The farmers who row corn to make ethenol will be devestated. Theeconomy will drop to depression conditions. Please excuse my failin keyoard.

DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods

boberic wrote:

There is one and only one reason to vote for Trump or against Biden. Oil and Gas. It's simple. Trump wants to continue US production. Biden wants to end it. End of Story.. Russia, China, India and the Middle east are all praying that Biden will win and fulffill his pronise to end US fossil fuel production. It will strengthen their economies at the expense of ours.

No really. All those countries want trump To win. Anything that throws America into disarray they like.
They much prefer the DIVIDED States of America rather then the UNITED States of America. Just like trump has done for 4 years That’s why they hacked the voter roles and sent the fake proud boy threats to registered democrats.

boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander

DennyT wrote:

No really. All those countries want trump To win. Anything that throws America into disarray they like.
They much prefer the DIVIDED States of America rather then the UNITED States of America. Just like trump has done for 4 years That’s why they hacked the voter roles and sent the fake proud boy threats to registered democrats.

Do you really think that china, russia, and the russian puppet countries paid all that money to the Biden famillyand expect no inffluence over a Biden presidency? For the first3years o Trumps term theUSwas stronger than in decades. Those countries want the USweaker. They want a Biden presidency and already paid for it

Harry0 Loc: Gardena, Cal

boberic wrote:

Electric cars is a good thing, better insulation a... (show quote)

You are almost quoting what I had posted earlier. Except for the prices.
Less gasoline deliveries, gas stations, blending stations, etc in residential areas. Less jobs.
With lesser need for fossil fuels, existing refineries can handle the production.
BUT those planes, trains and trucks will still have access to fuel.
Here in sunny SoCal, solar takes the points off of the peak electrical uses.
The more sun- the more heat- the more AC- the more solar augments- the less spike in usages.
No more blackouts, brownouts, etc.
And with more solar, the schools will be able to afford year round classes w/o AC costs.
It IS a bit of a sea change, as I've said.

slocumeddie Loc: Inside your head, again

Harry0 wrote:

You are almost quoting what I had posted earlier. ... (show quote)

You simply do not have a grip on reality.....study this chart, then tell us about "renewables".....

Solar is included in "other"

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Triple G

slocumeddie wrote:

You simply do not have a grip on reality.....study this chart, then tell us about "renewables".....

Solar is included in "other"

Looking to the future.

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/the-worlds-projected-energy-mix-2018-2040/

https://www.e-education.psu.edu/egee102/node/1929

slocumeddie Loc: Inside your head, again

Triple G wrote:

Looking to the future.

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/the-worlds-projected-energy-mix-2018-2040/

https://www.e-education.psu.edu/egee102/node/1929

Per your second chart, renewables, including hydro, will grow from 7 to 10 trillion kwh by 2040.....

Still pissing in the wind, methinks.....

Triple G

slocumeddie wrote:

Per your second chart, renewables, including hydro, will grow from 7 to 10 trillion kwh by 2040.....

Still pissing in the wind, methinks.....

It shows the movement overtime to renewables with the biggest growth in that source. It also shows that the changeover is gradual and not early as imminent as some alarmists would portray.

The US projection. Sorry the chart is small..Here’s the link.
https://www.e-education.psu.edu/egee102/node/1930

DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods

https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/298729-amazon-buys-100000-electric-trucks-from-rivian-total-ev-suvs-pickups-built-to-date-0

https://corporate.walmart.com/newsroom/2020/09/21/walmarts-regenerative-approach-going-beyond-sustainability

https://newsroom.fedex.com/newsroom/fedex-and-chanje-to-develop-groundbreaking-charging-infrastructure/

https://www.gmc.com/electric-truck/hummer-ev

https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&channel=iphone_bm&sxsrf=ALeKk03SJRc_VJKRKXYHYJMCGa8k2JW1dQ%3A1603625046215&source=hp&ei=VmCVX8vwCdfRtAberaCwBw&q=ups+going+electric&oq=u&gs_lcp=ChFtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1ocBABGAAyBAgjECcyBAgjECcyBAgjECcyBQgAEJECMgUIABCRAjICCAAyCAguELEDEIMBMggIABCxAxCDAToHCCMQ6gIQJzoOCC4QsQMQgwEQyQMQkwI6BAgAEEM6AgguOgcIIxCxAhAnOgUIABDJAzoECAAQCjoHCAAQsQMQClCWFVjqKGDjN2gEcAB4AIABggKIAZoEkgEFMC4yLjGYAQCgAQGwAQ8&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-hp

https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1127063_nyc-mayor-orders-all-municipal-vehicles-to-be-electric-by-2040

Ford

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/24/ford-unveiling-mustang-inspired-all-electric-suv-in-november.html

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/04/gm-to-spend-20-billion-on-new-electric-autonomous-vehicles.html

You better wake up and keep these jobs herei in America

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

boberic wrote:

Electric cars is a good thing, better insulation a... (show quote)

Why don't you just give in and by a new keyboard?

Rose42

thom w wrote:

Why don't you just give in and by a new keyboard?

Why do you troll?

Tex-s

Harry0 wrote:

You is bass ackwards. br By reducing our dependenc... (show quote)

Even granting your premise, how do you expect to CHARGE all the electric cars? Their production is already 60% more expensive than gas engine cars, their range severely limited vs gas, and the pollution of their battery production and disposal very much a concern.

There surely will be an evolution to new sources, but said evolution can't be forced into existence. It has to be affordable and less polluting or it's no solution. The original suggestion that our political adversaries benefit if America stops petroleum production is 100% accurate. For the next few decades, those countries would hold the lion's share of a product whose demand is only increasing and whose supply radically decreased. Even leftists who want to end markets in their own neighborhoods have to know that arrangement would exponentially increase the wealth and power of other oil-producing nations.