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Oct 16, 2020 01:27:03   #
machia Loc: NJ
 
According to a new report by the CDC, 70% of the people who contracted the disease said they always wore a mask.
Another 14% said they wore a mask only sometimes.
However this is in my opinion very misleading. After reading extensively about this disease and it’s transmission potential for months now, I’ve concluded that wearing a mask does not protect you from transmission. However if you wear a mask and an infected person wears their mask, your chances of contracting the virus then becomes dramatically reduced.
A Doctor wears a mask when operating on a person during a surgical procedure to prevent germs from infecting the patient. The same holds true here in the transmission of this disease.
Summary; EVERYONE needs to wear a mask! Containment stops transmission, or at a minimum, reduces it dramatically.
Stay safe everyone, wear a mask.

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Oct 16, 2020 05:17:15   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Yes, it's unfortunate that it's the wearer who protects everyone else. Non-believers don't wear masks, and they infect others.

I still think, rightly or not, that properly wearing a good mask offers some protection for the wearer. I've seen people wearing masks, but their nose is exposed. Some pull the mask down to talk, cough, or sneeze. One guy had a mask that was so loose it useless. My masks have filter pockets, and I make sure they're tight against my face. Still, I stay as far away from people as I can.

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Oct 16, 2020 05:18:01   #
Bultaco Loc: Aiken, SC
 
I agree, too many think their bullet proof.

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Oct 16, 2020 05:32:42   #
Delderby Loc: Derby UK
 
My belief is that those who do not wear masks belong to the "bury grannie and lets get on with the party" brigade.

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Oct 16, 2020 07:27:48   #
MHolland Loc: Kansas City
 
" researchers have determined the diameter of this virus to range between 60 nanometers (nm) to a maximum diameter of 140 nanometers (nm)" from www.news-medical.net


No matter if you wear mask's or not. If you hate them or adore. If you wish to hate people for masks or not. Get a real sense of what virus sizes we are dealing with. Get a grip on what type of mask you are using. Is your mask really N95 rated or did somebody just mark it as such. A repurposed Tee shirt or old bandana, common neck gaiters. Understand the mechanics of it all. Please stop the banter. Keep in mind most who die, now that doctors are really starting to understand the virus, are those who blew off the early symptoms. Those with some extreme health risks, they maybe knew about or denied. From the people I know who have personally contracted the virus, it's basically a sore throat and light sniffles for a week. My family is extremely large. Over 1000 members counting 1st, 2nd, 3rd cousins and so on. We've had 1 member die. She contracted it twice. It wasn't the virus that killed her. It was the sitting, laying in bed, being ambulatory, that created blood clots which hit her heart. She didn't know she had angina. Please think and be kind to each other.


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Oct 16, 2020 07:42:07   #
Delderby Loc: Derby UK
 
MHolland wrote:
" researchers have determined the diameter of this virus to range between 60 nanometers (nm) to a maximum diameter of 140 nanometers (nm)" from www.news-medical.net


No matter if you wear mask's or not. If you hate them or adore. If you wish to hate people for masks or not. Get a real sense of what virus sizes we are dealing with. Get a grip on what type of mask you are using. Is your mask really N95 rated or did somebody just mark it as such. A repurposed Tee shirt or old bandana, common neck gaiters. Understand the mechanics of it all. Please stop the banter. Keep in mind most who die, now that doctors are really starting to understand the virus, are those who blew off the early symptoms. Those with some extreme health risks, they maybe knew about or denied. From the people I know who have personally contracted the virus, it's basically a sore throat and light sniffles for a week. My family is extremely large. Over 1000 members counting 1st, 2nd, 3rd cousins and so on. We've had 1 member die. She contracted it twice. It wasn't the virus that killed her. It was the sitting, laying in bed, being ambulatory, that created blood clots which hit her heart. She didn't know she had angina. Please think and be kind to each other.
" researchers have determined the diameter of... (show quote)


The Covid-19 virus particles are passed on inside water/liquid droplets which are hundreds if not thousands of times larger than the virus particles alone, hence trapping the virus. These water droplets can be successfully caught by masks available in the market place to everyone, when worn correctly. That is the real mechanics!

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Oct 16, 2020 07:44:25   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Delderby wrote:
The Covid-19 virus particles are passed on inside water/liquid droplets which are hundreds if not thousands of times larger than the virus particles alone, hence trapping the virus. These water droplets can be successfully caught by masks available in the market place to everyone, when worn correctly. That is the real mechanics!


I think everyone knows that now, but people still keep talking about the size of the virus, which is irrelevant.

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Oct 16, 2020 08:32:32   #
alexol
 
The real problem seems to be even less complicated:

1. Too many people are (apparently) too stupid to grasp the simple concept that wearing a mask is to protect OTHERS, not oneself. If everyone is protecting everyone else when in proximity, the problem will be eradicated

2. Too many people are sufficiently selfish and uncaring that not protecting others isn't a concern for them, so stay as far from non-wearers as possible. These social lepers are not people you want in your life anyway, and if they infect each other, so what?

And yes, a properly worn N95 or better will help protect the wearer from inhaled matter as well as protecting others.

I wonder how many non-wearers would be happy to see their surgical team not wearing masks?

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Oct 16, 2020 08:56:11   #
machia Loc: NJ
 
alexol wrote:
The real problem seems to be even less complicated:

1. Too many people are (apparently) too stupid to grasp the simple concept that wearing a mask is to protect OTHERS, not oneself. If everyone is protecting everyone else when in proximity, the problem will be eradicated

2. Too many people are sufficiently selfish and uncaring that not protecting others isn't a concern for them, so stay as far from non-wearers as possible. These social lepers are not people you want in your life anyway, and if they infect each other, so what?

And yes, a properly worn N95 or better will help protect the wearer from inhaled matter as well as protecting others.

I wonder how many non-wearers would be happy to see their surgical team not wearing masks?
The real problem seems to be even less complicated... (show quote)


The surgical team example when presented to people definitely makes them take pause.

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Oct 16, 2020 08:56:33   #
MHolland Loc: Kansas City
 
Delderby wrote:
The Covid-19 virus particles are passed on inside water/liquid droplets which are hundreds if not thousands of times larger than the virus particles alone, hence trapping the virus. These water droplets can be successfully caught by masks available in the market place to everyone, when worn correctly. That is the real mechanics!


And here's your sign. If worn properly! If using a decent mask available on the market! Placing hopes on infected people building a vapor barrier inside their mask to catch droplets. Hoping they don't have to breath heavier than normal to break through the vapor barrier and super blast the droplets. Hoping they change masks several times a day. Hoping they haven't reused the mask for 3 weeks or more because they look clean to them. Hoping they're not fumbling with the masks and spreading droplets on every surface they touch. Hope they have sanitizer. I think, due to a little medical condition, I have good reason to exercise a little above average caution. Really I just want to take pictures and enjoy what's left of my time, whether short or long.

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Oct 16, 2020 10:16:39   #
srt101fan
 
Some of you still dismiss or question the protection that a mask can give to the wearer. Please read item #4 of the linked post and tell me where I'm wrong:

https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-656094-1.html#11402347

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Oct 16, 2020 12:12:48   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
I wear a mask when I am near other people. If I'm out and about and I know I will not be coming within 6 feet of others or may avoid cpassing close to others, I do not wear the mask. I have a bottle of hand sanitizer in my vehicle and I use it every time I get in the vehicle.
What kinda amazes me are the people I see driving with a mask on.

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Oct 16, 2020 13:15:13   #
Delderby Loc: Derby UK
 
rmorrison1116 wrote:
I wear a mask when I am near other people. If I'm out and about and I know I will not be coming within 6 feet of others or may avoid cpassing close to others, I do not wear the mask. I have a bottle of hand sanitizer in my vehicle and I use it every time I get in the vehicle.
What kinda amazes me are the people I see driving with a mask on.


Six feet is not enough. So far as cars are concerned - to be safe, turn off your fresh air heater, the use of which may be the reason for masks in cars.

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Oct 16, 2020 13:34:12   #
srt101fan
 
rmorrison1116 wrote:
I wear a mask when I am near other people. If I'm out and about and I know I will not be coming within 6 feet of others or may avoid cpassing close to others, I do not wear the mask. I have a bottle of hand sanitizer in my vehicle and I use it every time I get in the vehicle.
What kinda amazes me are the people I see driving with a mask on.


At times I have left a building and forgotten to take off the mask when I got in the car. It's a little awkward to take it off after you've started driving.

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Oct 16, 2020 21:54:31   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
srt101fan wrote:
At times I have left a building and forgotten to take off the mask when I got in the car. It's a little awkward to take it off after you've started driving.


Maybe for some folks it is awkward to remove the mask while driving. I've done it numerous times and hung the mask on my rear view mirror and have not found it to be the least bit awkward or difficult, but then that's me.

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