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Jul 24, 2020 10:29:16   #
amyinsparta Loc: White county, TN
 
phlash46 wrote:
From a doctor who is full of it.


I agree. If that were the case, more than half our medical personnel should have no breath by now. My neighbor has been head honcho at a sewage facility for years. He wears a mask 12 hours a day, four days a week. He breathes just fine.

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Jul 24, 2020 10:41:10   #
Rab-Eye Loc: Indiana
 
tramsey wrote:
Ina a nutshell


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Jul 24, 2020 10:46:40   #
Lucian Loc: From Wales, living in Ohio
 
JohnSwanda wrote:
That would only be true if wearing a mask provided absolute protection from the virus, which we know isn't true.


But what we do know is that if you have a ten people with no masks and ten people with masks in a room with a person who is infected with Covid-19, we will see that far greater percentage of people without masks will have been infected, compared to the ten that were wearing masks and maybe none of the mask wearers will become infected. Does that not tell you something??? Surely even you can understand that!

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Jul 24, 2020 10:53:15   #
Lucian Loc: From Wales, living in Ohio
 
Architect1776 wrote:
I hate wearing them.
They substantially cut down on oxygen intake and who knows the long term problems of oxygen deprivation.
Got this from a doctor directly who deals with this stuff.


Don't talk to that doctor, talk to all the surgeons who wear masks all day every day. Then speak to people such as paint sprayers in body shops who wear them all day. And then speak with plenty of others who have to wear masks all day and see how many of them are suffering. Really you need to grow up and stop believing everything you her that suits you.

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Jul 24, 2020 11:06:35   #
whatdat Loc: Del Valle, Tx.
 
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Jul 24, 2020 11:06:35   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
machia wrote:
I find 2020 to be a departure from anything I’ve ever experienced in my lifetime.
We are faced with a common enemy that historically unites people, yet civil unrest has turned hot across the nation.
There’s nothing in the way of a constructive national dialogue, just 24/7
negativity and upheaval.
The year of calamity.
But I suppose somehow one day this too will be looked upon as the good old days. Thats a phenomenon that’s a historical constant.

Wearing a mask is just good common sense. I know retail food workers who have been exposed to the masses from the very beginning of this outbreak and they are all perfectly healthy today. Without their masks I doubt they would be.
Stay safe everyone.
I find 2020 to be a departure from anything I’ve e... (show quote)


So shall we wear masks every flu season seeing that as many or more people die from the flu than the Chinese virus?
And remember that we have a vaccine every flu season and still have more deaths than the Chinese flu. What would the flu be like without a vaccine?
So if you are worried about a far less dangerous thing and panic and wear a mask then to keep from being a total hypocrite the rest of your life you better wear a mask every flu season and socially distance yourself and stay home all the time except for emergencies or be a hypocrite.

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Jul 24, 2020 11:10:41   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
Lucian wrote:
But what we do know is that if you have a ten people with no masks and ten people with masks in a room with a person who is infected with Covid-19, we will see that far greater percentage of people without masks will have been infected, compared to the ten that were wearing masks and maybe none of the mask wearers will become infected. Does that not tell you something??? Surely even you can understand that!


The post I was replying to said the people who are sick with the virus either didn't wear masks, or were infected by someone who didn't wear a mask. That is just not true. You can catch the virus even if you wear a mask. I am a big advocate of masks. I always wear one when in public. That will not ensure I will not get infected. It takes masks, distancing, and hand washing to reduce the spread of the virus.

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Jul 24, 2020 11:14:37   #
JeffL Loc: New Jersey
 
srron wrote:
On the other hand this virus is being used to erode our freedoms and usher in a one world government. As the super rich say "never let a crisis be wasted".


Do you wear a seatbelt? Do you stop at stop signs? Are your kids vaccinated against measles, mumps, etc.? Do you wear a helmet on a bicycle or motorcycle? Do you refrain from yelling fire in the middle of a crowded place? Do you pay taxes?

If you answered yes to any of the questions above, does that mean that your freedoms are being eroded, or that you are a responsible, law abiding member of society? If you believe social distancing, staying at home whenever possible, or wearing a mask are erosion of your freedoms, then I guess your are just choosing to use the virus to support your conspiracy theories.

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Jul 24, 2020 11:21:40   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
JeffL wrote:
Do you wear a seatbelt? Do you stop at stop signs? Are your kids vaccinated against measles, mumps, etc.? Do you wear a helmet on a bicycle or motorcycle? Do you refrain from yelling fire in the middle of a crowded place? Do you pay taxes?

If you answered yes to any of the questions above, does that mean that your freedoms are being eroded, or that you are a responsible, law abiding member of society? If you believe social distancing, staying at home whenever possible, or wearing a mask are erosion of your freedoms, then I guess your are just choosing to use the virus to support your conspiracy theories.
Do you wear a seatbelt? Do you stop at stop signs?... (show quote)


No equivalent at all.
You just failed logic 101.

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Jul 24, 2020 11:23:07   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
Architect1776 wrote:
So shall we wear masks every flu season seeing that as many or more people die from the flu than the Chinese virus?
And remember that we have a vaccine every flu season and still have more deaths than the Chinese flu. What would the flu be like without a vaccine?

Where do you get this from???

I don't know what Pennsylvania was like, but Indiana lost 131 citizens in the past "flu season", compared to at least twenty times that many so far from Covid.

Covid is not a "Chinese flu"; yes, it is considered to be a 'respiratory illness', but it is much more than that - causing blood clots and inflamation, it affects many more different organ systems than just the lungs.

But, yes perhaps some should mask up, but we do have an annual flu vaccine, and we have largely been protected each year.

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Jul 24, 2020 11:23:23   #
JeffL Loc: New Jersey
 
Architect1776 wrote:
So shall we wear masks every flu season seeing that as many or more people die from the flu than the Chinese virus?
And remember that we have a vaccine every flu season and still have more deaths than the Chinese flu. What would the flu be like without a vaccine?
So if you are worried about a far less dangerous thing and panic and wear a mask then to keep from being a total hypocrite the rest of your life you better wear a mask every flu season and socially distance yourself and stay home all the time except for emergencies or be a hypocrite.
So shall we wear masks every flu season seeing tha... (show quote)


First of all there is no Chinese flu, that being an extremely racist description. Call it the Trump virus, since he failed to address it and people are dying unnecessarily. As far as your unsubstantiated belief that this is less a threat than the seasonal flu, you obviously don't understand or believe in science. It has infected and killed more people in a shorter period of time than the seasonal flu, and it has not abated at all. And, it isn't just deaths to be concerned about. There have been 4 million Americans affected and over 143,000 deaths, but it is taking a greater toll on those of the 4 million who become seriously ill and can't function, work or be around families for extended periods. There is a financial and emotional impact that will last for years. And, because the world has only known about this virus for no longer than 9 months, we have no clue what the long term impact on health will be. So, equating this with the seasonal flu is nonsensical at best.

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Jul 24, 2020 11:25:02   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
Architect1776 wrote:
No equivalent at all.
You just failed logic 101.

You are the one who is not displaying logic.
The point is that all of these are means of protection.
Do you think that using them limits your freedom??

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Jul 24, 2020 11:26:34   #
digit-up Loc: Flushing, Michigan
 
Architect1776 wrote:
So shall we wear masks every flu season seeing that as many or more people die from the flu than the Chinese virus?
And remember that we have a vaccine every flu season and still have more deaths than the Chinese flu. What would the flu be like without a vaccine?
So if you are worried about a far less dangerous thing and panic and wear a mask then to keep from being a total hypocrite the rest of your life you better wear a mask every flu season and socially distance yourself and stay home all the time except for emergencies or be a hypocrite.
So shall we wear masks every flu season seeing tha... (show quote)

YOU certainly should entertain the concept of “staying home & inside”, I for one appreciate as much “social distance from folks(know-it-all’s) as is possible,!!.....RJM

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Jul 24, 2020 11:27:42   #
JeffL Loc: New Jersey
 
Architect1776 wrote:
No equivalent at all.
You just failed logic 101.


Every one of the things I stated causes people to do or not do something that restricts their so-called freedom. The precautionary protocols associated with reducing the spread of the virus restrict alleged freedoms the same way. So, perfect equivalency and logic.

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Jul 24, 2020 11:28:36   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
rehess wrote:
Where do you get this from???

I don't know what Pennsylvania was like, but Indiana lost 131 citizens in the past "flu season", compared to at least twenty times that many so far from Covid.

Covid is not a "Chinese flu"; yes, it is considered to be a 'respiratory illness', but it is much more than that - causing blood clots and inflamation, it affects many more different organ systems than just the lungs.

But, yes perhaps some should mask up, but we do have an annual flu vaccine, and we have largely been protected each year.
Where do you get this from??? br br I don't know ... (show quote)


Readily available data on google same as you.

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