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Jan 4, 2020 12:49:08   #
Wanderer2 Loc: Colorado Rocky Mountains
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
That dehaze tool is impressive! I can't recall if it's in my current version of PS Elements. Might be and my one or two attempts with it were failures


Dehaze is in my PSE 14, I believe the first year PSE had it and the main reason I purchased it then. So i would think it would be in your current version. I was initially surprised how effective it was but some of the magic seems to have worn off.

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Jan 4, 2020 12:55:02   #
Wanderer2 Loc: Colorado Rocky Mountains
 
Regarding the ancient (by photography standards) question of B&W vs color, I prefer my landscapes to be generally faithful to what my eyes see. Since I'm not color blind that means I almost exclusively use color. Just personal preference and very subjective.

But having said that I will confess I have the "Ansel Adams 400 Photographs" book and enjoy looking at almost all of them!

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Jan 4, 2020 13:15:29   #
Vince68 Loc: Wappingers Falls, NY
 
jaymatt wrote:
I’ll have to go with the color. Though I’m a fan of black and white, this one is pretty flat. Other folks’ versions have more pop to them.


Thanks for looking and commenting John. I am more of a fan of color, although I do like the B&W photos many fellow Hogs post. I was looking for suggestions, what others do and how, and got good advice so far.

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Jan 4, 2020 13:17:04   #
Vince68 Loc: Wappingers Falls, NY
 
yssirk123 wrote:
Hi Vince - I like the color version better.


Thanks Bill. I wasn't "thrilled" with the color version I did and was looking for some tips from others.

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Jan 4, 2020 13:19:39   #
Vince68 Loc: Wappingers Falls, NY
 
Jim-Pops wrote:
Answering your questions.
I think you should make changes to color first. You have more control even in Lightroom you can go to HSL/Color section and start sliding some of the color bars improving contrast. Remember the color in not important the contrast is what you want to improve.
Yes, ACR in Photoshop is the same as Lightroom's adjustment sliders. I just go to photoshop and start from their rather than go back and forth between the two programs.
I used the Aurora HDR while the photo was still color getting the effect. I then imported the file and made it a layer over the base color picture. Then just opened up the sky with a mask. In this case the Aurora software didn't help me with the rest of the picture.
Once happy with the color picture having all the contrast I wanted I made the conversion to B&W. Once B&W I applied additional sharpening and contrast for the final picture.
Answering your questions. br I think you should ma... (show quote)


Thanks for your tips and advice. I will definitely have to try it that way the next time I convert a color to B&W. I guess I should try to use PS more, as that is the only way to learn it better and become more proficient.

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Jan 4, 2020 13:20:58   #
Vince68 Loc: Wappingers Falls, NY
 
wildconc2001 wrote:
In working this image I tried to add some contrast without losing the values and going too far. I did this with camera raw first and then the black and white tool in Photoshop. Just another thought on the conversion.


Thanks for looking and commenting Larry, and posting your B&W of the image.

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Jan 4, 2020 13:28:17   #
Vince68 Loc: Wappingers Falls, NY
 
ygelman wrote:
Seems to me that the thrust of the question is answered by the black/white version being better. I know that for some people photography is just something you do, like eating or talking. But it's also an art; the artistic aspect of the b/w is easily evident compared to the ho-hum color -- even with enhancements to the color. For the most part, color is a distraction for me. Sometimes it's good or ok, but mostly it's b/w for me.


I agree with your comments, "for some people photography is just something you do, like eating or talking", and "But it's also an art". Both are so very true IMO. We all have different tastes though when it comes to what we like or prefer as "art" though. What you prefer as you stated "For the most part, color is a distraction for me. Sometimes it's good or ok, but mostly it's b/w for me" is different than what I prefer, which is color. Not saying I don't like B&W at all, but my preference is color.

Thank you for taking the time to look and express your opinion. It is after all what I was looking for.

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Jan 4, 2020 13:31:38   #
Vince68 Loc: Wappingers Falls, NY
 
Wanderer2 wrote:
Regarding the ancient (by photography standards) question of B&W vs color, I prefer my landscapes to be generally faithful to what my eyes see. Since I'm not color blind that means I almost exclusively use color. Just personal preference and very subjective.

But having said that I will confess I have the "Ansel Adams 400 Photographs" book and enjoy looking at almost all of them!


Hi Mike, thanks for looking and commenting. I prefer color as well to B&W, but as I said in previous comments to others, I do like looking at B&W images too. I also enjoy looking at Ansel Adams work, and it is a superb example B&W photography.

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Mar 23, 2020 14:03:17   #
Richard1947 Loc: Knoxville, TN
 
Still prefer the color

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