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Sep 1, 2019 14:57:46   #
Rich1939 Loc: Pike County Penna.
 
JD750 wrote:
I have not touched my DSLR in quite a while. From even before I bought my Z. I have been shooting with my Olympus OM-D and I definitely prefer the mirrorless process over the DSLR process. I carried both for a while I found I was not using the DSLR.

But I cannot answer for you. It depends on your shooting style and subjects. Here is my recommendation. Keep both and use both for a while. See what happens, which you like more.

Unless they have upped the price, the Nikon trade in is not a fabulous deal. You can get a similar deal from Adorama or KEH, etc, other sellers of used cameras, they tend to pay about 70% of the going used price.

However now may be the time for selling a DSLR. DSLR prices are in freewill so I doubt the used prices are going to go up from where they are now.
I have not touched my DSLR in quite a while. From... (show quote)


"Unless they have upped the price, the Nikon trade in is not a fabulous deal. You can get a similar deal from Adorama or KEH, etc, other sellers of used cameras, they tend to pay about 70% of the going used price."
The Nikon trade in number by itself is a no go. However that is only Nikon's offer which would be a bonus addition to whatever the camera store will offer.

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Sep 1, 2019 15:19:48   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
If AF is your primary concern stay with your D810.

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Sep 1, 2019 15:29:31   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
joehel2 wrote:
Nikon has a Trade Up to Z promotion that is tempting me to trade in my D810. It seems that some initial AF concerns with the Z7 were resolved with a firmware update. Wasn’t sure if anyone has experience to share after switching from a D800, 810, or 850 to a Z6 or Z7. Thanks.


I've said for years that the first versions of Canon and Nikon mirrorless would be hastily brought to market to chase what Panasonic, Olympus, Fujifilm, and Sony have done before them. This is coming from a former Nikon and Canon user... now a Panasonic Lumix user.

My best advice would be to sit tight and wait for the NEXT version of the Z series. Despite the wizardry of firmware, it can't make up for design-limited hardware and the laws of physics. They'll figure it out, but it may take a while.

If you're an action photographer, either stick with dSLRs, or if you have lots of GAS, switch to the Sony A9.

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Sep 1, 2019 15:50:35   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
burkphoto wrote:
I've said for years that the first versions of Canon and Nikon mirrorless would be hastily brought to market to chase what Panasonic, Olympus, Fujifilm, and Sony have done before them. This is coming from a former Nikon and Canon user... now a Panasonic Lumix user.

My best advice would be to sit tight and wait for the NEXT version of the Z series. Despite the wizardry of firmware, it can't make up for design-limited hardware and the laws of physics. They'll figure it out, but it may take a while.

If you're an action photographer, either stick with dSLRs, or if you have lots of GAS, switch to the Sony A9.
I've said for years that the first versions of Can... (show quote)


I am quite happy I bought my Nikon Z7 camera. I am not looking back or second guessing. My only regret is I wanted as long as I did. I am going to sell my DSLR (but not my SLR). And I am still quite attached to my OM-D and the Z has not replaced it yet. I doubt it will. I will use them for different things.

I prefer Mirrorless over DSLR and I have a lot of Nikon glass I can use with the Z. I don't shoot much high speed action but it is worthy to note that Nikon released a firmware update that improved the dynamic focusing. And Nikon is sending out info to Z users abut how to more effectively use the focusing system, because it is different from the DSLRs systems.

And the focus point coverage is great on the Z7! The Z has both contrast and phase detection sites on the sensor. Combined with the great focus point coverage, the the hardwire is in place for improved high speed focusing without breaking any laws of physics.

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Sep 1, 2019 16:01:43   #
Strodav Loc: Houston, Tx
 
As a rule, I don't buy the first year model of a new technology release. Glad I waited based on many of the comments from UHH Z owners, which are not bad, just not enough of an improvement to move to the new system. I am hearing really good things about the a7Riv, however, ...

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Sep 1, 2019 16:49:37   #
markwilliam1
 
dick ranez wrote:
Until Nikon - and Canon - widen the choices, I'll avoid the rush to mirrorless. Interesting approach, Nikon appears to have decent body and no lenses, Canon has lenses but weak body choices. I'll not buy Sony until the camera business is more than a corporate rounding error - anyone want a good deal on some Sony PC's that they abandoned? If forced to mirrorless today - I'd buy Fuji.


Sony’s camera business is a corporate rounding error? Are you majorly confused? Sony some of makes the best mirrorless cameras in the world and is a dominant leader in mirrorless technology! Expand your horizons and do some research Sir.

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Sep 1, 2019 16:54:37   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
markwilliam1 wrote:
Sony’s camera business is a corporate rounding error? Are you majorly confused? Sony some of makes the best mirrorless cameras in the world and is a dominant leader in mirrorless technology! Expand your horizons and do some research Sir.


I believe he is talking about the % of Sony's camera business revenue compared to their total revenue. No question about their technical superiority. And Sony is not waiting around for Canicon to catch up.
But Sony does have a history of abandoning product lines when it suits them. It is food for thought.

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Sep 1, 2019 17:21:00   #
Rich1939 Loc: Pike County Penna.
 
markwilliam1 wrote:
Sony’s camera business is a corporate rounding error? Are you majorly confused? Sony some of makes the best mirrorless cameras in the world and is a dominant leader in mirrorless technology! Expand your horizons and do some research Sir.


Mark, If we avoid a product because we are not sure about the company's future plans, would we ever by any product? Company's close their doors but the products continue doing their jobs for a long time after those doors are closed.
What difference does what happens to a company make once you have a functioning product? After a point they don't support your purchase anyway.

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Sep 1, 2019 17:37:20   #
DennisC. Loc: Antelope, CA
 
I added Fujifilm to my system and so far it has put the fun back into my photography and video work. I now have a quote from MPB to sell off my Nikon gear. I am also interested in the Sony A9. The problem with Nikon F mount lenses is that the auto focus will never adapt to anything very well so adding a Z system body basically means all new lenses too.

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Sep 1, 2019 17:55:24   #
Rich1939 Loc: Pike County Penna.
 
DennisC. wrote:
I added Fujifilm to my system and so far it has put the fun back into my photography and video work. I now have a quote from MPB to sell off my Nikon gear. I am also interested in the Sony A9. The problem with Nikon F mount lenses is that the auto focus will never adapt to anything very well so adding a Z system body basically means all new lenses too.


Only older screw drive lenses will not work with the Z models. If you have those older lenses you have a valid point if not, you're working with bad information

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Sep 1, 2019 18:20:07   #
MDI Mainer
 
Just a thought -- by the time Nikon and Canon get the auto-focus right on their mirrorless bodies, Sony will be like on their 5th generation AF system!

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Sep 1, 2019 19:13:13   #
Photomac Loc: The Dalles, Or
 
I guess my question is; the IQ? Is it so much better to warrant the huge costs of loss in selling used gear, new lenses, etc, when the 810/850 do every thing very nicely. Is this GAS?? Significant new technology with sharper faster and better quality images are one thing, but are we there yet?? We all know in our deepest selves, some of the best photos are made with the simplest of cameras in the right hands at the right time. As a wildlife photographer, its all about speed on, AF, and rapid fire. I accidentally sold my d500 and still regret it.

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Sep 1, 2019 19:34:38   #
DennisC. Loc: Antelope, CA
 
Rich1939 wrote:
Only older screw drive lenses will not work with the Z models. If you have those older lenses you have a valid point if not, you're working with bad information


Not true, I have tested the Z6 with the adapter on 4 of my AF-S Nikon lenses plus a Sigma Art and Tamron G2 lens and the auto focus is not that good, it’s a big step down from using them on a D850 or D500, you need the Z mount lenses and they are expensive.

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Sep 1, 2019 20:02:25   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
DennisC. wrote:
Not true, I have tested the Z6 with the adapter on 4 of my AF-S Nikon lenses plus a Sigma Art and Tamron G2 lens and the auto focus is not that good, it’s a big step down from using them on a D850 or D500, you need the Z mount lenses and they are expensive.

These are lenses with in-lens AF motor??

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Sep 1, 2019 20:11:59   #
DennisC. Loc: Antelope, CA
 
rehess wrote:
These are lenses with in-lens AF motor??


Yes, they are the newest F mount lenses and when they are adapted to the Z6 or Z7 there is a performance lag and AF hunting, even in good light. Nikon has some work to do on the Z series, maybe in the next generation they will get it right.

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