I know that it's best to shoot in color and then convert to B&W, but is a plug-in, like Silver Efex, really better than PS alone?
Jerry, I've got Silver efex pro and it blows photoshop away. Of course it's a dedicated program and it's not cheap. I'd say if you absolutely love black and white, invest in Silver Efex. If it's a once in a while kind of thing then you can get buy with ps.
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Jerry, I've got Silver efex pro and it blows photoshop away. Of course it's a dedicated program and it's not cheap. I'd say if you absolutely love black and white, invest in Silver Efex. If it's a once in a while kind of thing then you can get buy with ps.
It's described as a plug-in ($159). Can it also be used on its own?
Jerry, try this in photoshop. Convert the photo to 'Lab' color. Click on the channels pallet and then click on lightness. Go to the top menu and do a select all. Click back on the 'Lab' channel, click on layers, create a new layer and paste the lightness channel into the new layer. Change the blending mode to 'Color' and you have a black and white. To enhance this you can use your burn tool on the new layer, set it to shadows and 15-20% exposure and go over the dark parts(I usually create a copy of the layer before I do this so if I over do anything I don't have to copy the lightness channel again.) Then if you feel you need it you can do the same thing with the dodge tool set on highlights on the light parts of the photo. You can also change the opacity of this layer to allow just a hint of color to come through. When you have what you want merge the layers together change the mode back to 'RGB' and save it in your favorite format. It is not as simple as a one click plugin but it doesn't cost $159 and it is really pretty simple once you do it a couple of times. It takes maybe 5 minutes once you don't have to read the instructions on how to do it.
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Jerry, try this in photoshop. Convert the photo to 'Lab' color. Click on the channels pallet and then click on lightness. Go to the top menu and do a select all. Click back on the 'Lab' channel, click on layers, create a new layer and paste the lightness channel into the new layer. Change the blending mode to 'Color' and you have a black and white. To enhance this you can use your burn tool on the new layer, set it to shadows and 15-20% exposure and go over the dark parts(I usually create a copy of the layer before I do this so if I over do anything I don't have to copy the lightness channel again.) Then if you feel you need it you can do the same thing with the dodge tool set on highlights on the light parts of the photo. You can also change the opacity of this layer to allow just a hint of color to come through. When you have what you want merge the layers together change the mode back to 'RGB' and save it in your favorite format. It is not as simple as a one click plugin but it doesn't cost $159 and it is really pretty simple once you do it a couple of times. It takes maybe 5 minutes once you don't have to read the instructions on how to do it.
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Well, I'll give it a try, but then what else can I spend $159 on? :D
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jerryc41 wrote:
jimni2001 wrote:
Jerry, try this in photoshop. Convert the photo to 'Lab' color. Click on the channels pallet and then click on lightness. Go to the top menu and do a select all. Click back on the 'Lab' channel, click on layers, create a new layer and paste the lightness channel into the new layer. Change the blending mode to 'Color' and you have a black and white. To enhance this you can use your burn tool on the new layer, set it to shadows and 15-20% exposure and go over the dark parts(I usually create a copy of the layer before I do this so if I over do anything I don't have to copy the lightness channel again.) Then if you feel you need it you can do the same thing with the dodge tool set on highlights on the light parts of the photo. You can also change the opacity of this layer to allow just a hint of color to come through. When you have what you want merge the layers together change the mode back to 'RGB' and save it in your favorite format. It is not as simple as a one click plugin but it doesn't cost $159 and it is really pretty simple once you do it a couple of times. It takes maybe 5 minutes once you don't have to read the instructions on how to do it.
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Well, I'll give it a try, but then what else can I spend $159 on? :D
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Hookers.
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Whoa! You're talking expensive, high class gals at that price! :wink:
jerryc41 wrote:
jimni2001 wrote:
jerryc41 wrote:
jimni2001 wrote:
Jerry, try this in photoshop. Convert the photo to 'Lab' color. Click on the channels pallet and then click on lightness. Go to the top menu and do a select all. Click back on the 'Lab' channel, click on layers, create a new layer and paste the lightness channel into the new layer. Change the blending mode to 'Color' and you have a black and white. To enhance this you can use your burn tool on the new layer, set it to shadows and 15-20% exposure and go over the dark parts(I usually create a copy of the layer before I do this so if I over do anything I don't have to copy the lightness channel again.) Then if you feel you need it you can do the same thing with the dodge tool set on highlights on the light parts of the photo. You can also change the opacity of this layer to allow just a hint of color to come through. When you have what you want merge the layers together change the mode back to 'RGB' and save it in your favorite format. It is not as simple as a one click plugin but it doesn't cost $159 and it is really pretty simple once you do it a couple of times. It takes maybe 5 minutes once you don't have to read the instructions on how to do it.
Jerry, try this in photoshop. Convert the photo to... (
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Well, I'll give it a try, but then what else can I spend $159 on? :D
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Hookers.
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Whoa! You're talking expensive, high class gals at that price! :wink:
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I think that depends on how many you get. I should have never said that because I don't think is is going to go any where better than the gutter. It was just the first thing that popped into my warped sense of humor. Have you given that B&W conversion a try yet?
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jerryc41 wrote:
jimni2001 wrote:
jerryc41 wrote:
jimni2001 wrote:
Jerry, try this in photoshop. Convert the photo to 'Lab' color. Click on the channels pallet and then click on lightness. Go to the top menu and do a select all. Click back on the 'Lab' channel, click on layers, create a new layer and paste the lightness channel into the new layer. Change the blending mode to 'Color' and you have a black and white. To enhance this you can use your burn tool on the new layer, set it to shadows and 15-20% exposure and go over the dark parts(I usually create a copy of the layer before I do this so if I over do anything I don't have to copy the lightness channel again.) Then if you feel you need it you can do the same thing with the dodge tool set on highlights on the light parts of the photo. You can also change the opacity of this layer to allow just a hint of color to come through. When you have what you want merge the layers together change the mode back to 'RGB' and save it in your favorite format. It is not as simple as a one click plugin but it doesn't cost $159 and it is really pretty simple once you do it a couple of times. It takes maybe 5 minutes once you don't have to read the instructions on how to do it.
Jerry, try this in photoshop. Convert the photo to... (
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Well, I'll give it a try, but then what else can I spend $159 on? :D
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Hookers.
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Whoa! You're talking expensive, high class gals at that price! :wink:
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I think that depends on how many you get. I should have never said that because I don't think is is going to go any where better than the gutter. It was just the first thing that popped into my warped sense of humor. Have you given that B&W conversion a try yet?
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I'll resist the urge to comment on your first sentence. As for the second, no, I haven't. I've been too busy here with "house stuff." :thumbdown:
jimni2001 wrote:
Jerry, try this in photoshop. Convert the photo to 'Lab' color.
I started following your directions and got stuck here. :D
At the top meny under 'Image'-'Mode'-'Lab'
abc1234
Loc: Elk Grove Village, Illinois
You can convert to monochrome in different ways with Photoshop. PS has a setting for that under color models or whatever they call it. You can desaturate the file all the way. Try googling the subject.
jerryc41 wrote:
jimni2001 wrote:
Jerry, try this in photoshop. Convert the photo to 'Lab' color. Click on the channels pallet and then click on lightness. Go to the top menu and do a select all. Click back on the 'Lab' channel, click on layers, create a new layer and paste the lightness channel into the new layer. Change the blending mode to 'Color' and you have a black and white. To enhance this you can use your burn tool on the new layer, set it to shadows and 15-20% exposure and go over the dark parts(I usually create a copy of the layer before I do this so if I over do anything I don't have to copy the lightness channel again.) Then if you feel you need it you can do the same thing with the dodge tool set on highlights on the light parts of the photo. You can also change the opacity of this layer to allow just a hint of color to come through. When you have what you want merge the layers together change the mode back to 'RGB' and save it in your favorite format. It is not as simple as a one click plugin but it doesn't cost $159 and it is really pretty simple once you do it a couple of times. It takes maybe 5 minutes once you don't have to read the instructions on how to do it.
Jerry, try this in photoshop. Convert the photo to... (
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Well, I'll give it a try, but then what else can I spend $159 on? :D
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you could always send it my way Jerry...I'll put in it the D600 cookie jar.
abc1234
Loc: Elk Grove Village, Illinois
jimni2001 wrote:
...Convert the photo to 'Lab' color. Click on the channels pallet and then click on lightness. Go to the top menu and do a select all. Click back on the 'Lab' channel, click on layers, create a new layer and paste the lightness channel into the new layer. Change the blending mode to 'Color' and you have a black and white....
Why could you not convert this to a preset or action? Likewise for selective coloring.
Hi Jerry,
I don't remember in reading your posts whether you have Lightroom or not but I've been very pleased with the results I get in LR3 along with a few tweeks in CS5 (or PSE10). Take care & ...
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