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Jan 15, 2019 17:55:26   #
Ka2azman Loc: Tucson, Az
 
dirtpusher wrote:
We see who comes up with Zero.


You do, forget 0-6 so far in your predictions?
Have a hisssssssy-fit and hissssssss says teh snake!



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Jan 16, 2019 07:28:15   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
Ka2azman wrote:
quote=Twardlow]My Friend, you have changed the discussion from a civil population subject to the military, thus changing the topic entirely.

What I said was, “There’s no population on earth that the Japanese were afraid of, and there are plenty of examples of how Japanese treated civilian populations.”[/quote

Twist and turn - that is what snakes do! Just look at how the twisting and turning you are doing.

Your Quote:" What I said was, “There’s no population on earth..." - - Americans are a population! 'Try Twist away' But I am not letting you twist out of this one!

Your Quote:"that the Japanese were afraid of..." - - That is the Japanese army - only their military (army) went into the various locations in SE Asia and across the Pacific and did those things to the civilian population. 'turning away' Not letting turn this away.

Your Quote:"... and there are plenty of examples of how Japanese treated civilian populations.”[/quote]" - - Again, only the Japanese military (army) was doing these things to the population. 'Twisting away again.' It was the military! Any one with a reasonable mind can see you squirming to try to get out of the hole you dug for yourself.

Your quote:"My Friend, you have changed the discussion from a civil population subject to the military, thus changing the topic entirely."

You are trying to twist and turn with your stupidity. You are trying to use slippery words and what it represents. It was the military (army) that did these things to the population - who else did it to them? So I was talking in the tense and case, which you set up! It wasn't me who change the subject - I was just following your post! Your too stupid to see it. Is that because a snake has such a little head? Only relies on instinct and not logic - not enough room in the little head to allow such a thing?

They were afraid of the American population. Actually the proof is in the pudding. Their military lost and had good reason to be afraid! Their Japanese population did not go out and fight this war, their military did. So there was no change from population to military as you falsely claim. A lying SNAKE! Low to the ground crawling around. Have you bumped into the other snake? Boy I just might have a hard time knowing the difference between you two! Hissssssss like a snake!
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Jan 16, 2019 07:29:30   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
Ka2azman wrote:
Not long ago the Dems voted .5 billion for Jordan to build a wall. And it is only 287 miles long. And reported it has helped their security a lot!



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Jan 17, 2019 13:26:52   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
Ka2azman wrote:
Not long ago the Dems voted .5 billion for Jordan to build a wall. And it is only 287 miles long. And reported it has helped their security a lot!


He had a full repuke Congress for two years. Why didn't they appropriate the wall. Lol

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Jan 17, 2019 13:27:32   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
Elaine2025 wrote:


He had a full repuke Congress for two years. Why didn't they appropriate the wall. Lol


How does that work.

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Jan 17, 2019 15:08:42   #
Ka2azman Loc: Tucson, Az
 
dirtpusher wrote:
He had a full repuke Congress for two years. Why didn't they appropriate the wall. Lol


I guess the same reason (but I do not have inside information like you claim - Mueller report) Obama didn't do anything about the immigration problem. Hisssss says the snake - Go and have a GIRLY HISSSSSY-FIT


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Jan 17, 2019 15:11:01   #
Ka2azman Loc: Tucson, Az
 
dirtpusher wrote:
He had a full repuke Congress for two years. Why didn't they appropriate the wall. Lol


How does that work.


Same reason Obama and others before him didn't - Have a Hissssssy-fit and hissssssss says the snake!


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Jan 17, 2019 15:34:30   #
pendennis
 
Bob Smith wrote:
I often post things on here and us Brits are always criticised by Americans that we are ruled by the Queen. Which is nonsense the Queen has no power over government and would quickly be overruled by the government of she tried something like Mr Trump has. So my question is if the president can shut down the government which country is run by government and which run by a demigod.


I'm going to ignore the other posts and respond thus:

The United States has a written Constitution, something not found in England. As part of the document, the Congress authorizes all spending by the U.S. Government. The Executive Branch can only spend what's been appropriated.

The President informed the Congress earlier, that there would be no omnibus spending bills, that Congress would have to appropriate money for departmental operations as had been done for years. The Congress has already appropriated about 75% of the fiscal 2019 budget.

As part of the Congressional rules, in place for years, it takes a 60 vote approval for the Senate to okay any appropriation bill that comes to the Senate. The only exception is for reconciliation, which requires only a one-vote majority to pass in either house.

The President can't spend any money the Congress hasn't appropriated. With divided power, the Democrat-controlled House has refused to appropriate any money for President Trumps border security (politics aside). Without an appropriations bill, which has to originate in the House, there can be no vote in the Senate.

The United States Constitution is not a very long document to read. You should try it.

The President of the United States is not a demigod. He's acting within the power granted him by the Constitution. He did not shut down the government.

And yes, I read all six volumes of Churchill's work. At the end, I was still convinced that he was a narcissistic, political chameleon who switched sides of the political aisle about as often as I change underwear. His understanding of military strategy was exceeded only by his ego. (See Gallipoli Campaign of February 1915-January 1916.)

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Jan 17, 2019 16:18:22   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
Ka2azman wrote:
I guess the same reason (but I do not have inside information like you claim - Mueller report) Obama didn't do anything about the immigration problem. Hisssss says the snake - Go and have a GIRLY HISSSSSY-FIT


Only inside you got is the clueless kind.

Nice self portrait

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Jan 17, 2019 16:20:22   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
pendennis wrote:
I'm going to ignore the other posts and respond thus:

The United States has a written Constitution, something not found in England. As part of the document, the Congress authorizes all spending by the U.S. Government. The Executive Branch can only spend what's been appropriated.

The President informed the Congress earlier, that there would be no omnibus spending bills, that Congress would have to appropriate money for departmental operations as had been done for years. The Congress has already appropriated about 75% of the fiscal 2019 budget.

As part of the Congressional rules, in place for years, it takes a 60 vote approval for the Senate to okay any appropriation bill that comes to the Senate. The only exception is for reconciliation, which requires only a one-vote majority to pass in either house.

The President can't spend any money the Congress hasn't appropriated. With divided power, the Democrat-controlled House has refused to appropriate any money for President Trumps border security (politics aside). Without an appropriations bill, which has to originate in the House, there can be no vote in the Senate.

The United States Constitution is not a very long document to read. You should try it.

The President of the United States is not a demigod. He's acting within the power granted him by the Constitution. He did not shut down the government.

And yes, I read all six volumes of Churchill's work. At the end, I was still convinced that he was a narcissistic, political chameleon who switched sides of the political aisle about as often as I change underwear. His understanding of military strategy was exceeded only by his ego. (See Gallipoli Campaign of February 1915-January 1916.)
I'm going to ignore the other posts and respond th... (show quote)


When will bone spurs recognize Constitution

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Jan 17, 2019 17:37:04   #
Angmo
 
dirtpusher wrote:
When will bone spurs recognize Constitution


When you gonna read and understand it with comprehension.

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Jan 17, 2019 18:01:53   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
Angmo wrote:
When you gonna read and understand it with comprehension.


When you gonna grow up an grow a brain. That would help your comprehension

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Jan 17, 2019 18:17:42   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
dirtpusher wrote:
He had a full repuke Congress for two years. Why didn't they appropriate the wall. Lol


Why do you lie?

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Jan 17, 2019 18:26:08   #
btbg
 
Bob Smith wrote:
Yes typical nonsense response but quoting history doesn't quite answer why your head of state can shut down the government and ours can't. If you are the land of the so called free and a democracy how is it one person can shut down the government? Oh! by the way you were a little late in WW1 and WW2. And if you want to be offensive mentioning wars we didn't help you out in Vietnam and look what happened there.


He hasn't shut down the government. First of all 80 percent of it is still running. If properly administered that would be more than enough to fund an adequate government.

Second we have a system of checks and balances. No one person can do anything. Congress could open government in a minute if they were willing to do. All they have to do is pass a budget that the president will sign. They just choose not to do so.

To blame the shut down on one person is ridiculous. The same people who are refusing to fund a wall now almost universally voted for a wall earlier, when they knew that it wasn't actually going to get built. Now that there is a president who is actually going to get it built they hate him so much that they refuse to even negotiate.

It is essentially the same thing that is happening in Great Britain with Brexit. May negotiated with Brussels without having the consent of your legislature and now you have a deadline coming up in March with no resolution in sight.

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Jan 17, 2019 18:35:40   #
Angmo
 
Trump has to veto a bill. Nothing’s presented to him. Dems closed govt. they have not presented a budget of any kind.

Dems have closed govt. Their budget. They own it.

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