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Jul 10, 2018 10:08:34   #
BebuLamar
 
bsprague wrote:
I'm going to make a point of getting my granddaughter to show me her D3400. I've never looked through a DSLR viewfinder.


It's not different from a 35mm SLR viewfinder except that for the DX format it's smaller than a typical 35mm SLR. Since all DSLR are autofocus they don't have the split image or microprism focusing aid. Also because they are autofocus the LCD layer needed to show focus point makes the focusing screen more difficult to manually focus than a typical 35mm SLR using only the ground glass area.

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Jul 10, 2018 21:56:00   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
bsprague wrote:
I'm going to make a point of getting my granddaughter to show me her D3400. I've never looked through a DSLR viewfinder.


I just did recently, no thanks!

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Jul 10, 2018 22:01:45   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
kb6kgx wrote:
Two downsides to film:
1) cost; at my local shop its about $15 for each roll of film, including cost of film, processing and the CD. Can get pricey if you shoot a lot of film.
2) having to wait to find out if you even got your shot, or if you got anything at all.

Upside? Cost is only the storage cards you want. No additional cost for as many shots as you want to take. Knock yourself out with that!

What growing up on “film” did for me was that it made me know that I had to make every shot count. It helped to learn about shutter speed, aperture and composition.

I’d love to still use film, today (even though I sold off my FE2!), but the cost of using it, plus the lack of choices of film types these days as well as being harder to find, makes the use of film difficult and not as much fun.
Two downsides to film: br 1) cost; at my local sh... (show quote)


I definitely think you should not bother with film!

kb you must use the camera and canvas that you love. For pros there is time an money. For hobbyists And artists there is no right or wrong to that we are free to use what we like. I support your choices.

Viva la choices! We live in a great time period to be a photographer!

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Jul 10, 2018 22:07:48   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
JD750 wrote:
sorry lost control of phone. Deleted.

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Jul 10, 2018 22:15:27   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
kb6kgx wrote:
Two downsides to film:
1) cost; at my local shop its about $15 for each roll of film, including cost of film, processing and the CD. Can get pricey if you shoot a lot of film.
2) having to wait to find out if you even got your shot, or if you got anything at all.

Upside? Cost is only the storage cards you want. No additional cost for as many shots as you want to take. Knock yourself out with that!


kb, that statement makes me chuckle!!
A few years ago I made this post about just how FREE digi IS!!! LoL
Read on......
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-313837-1.html
SS

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Jul 10, 2018 23:11:16   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
tdekany wrote:
https://www.joeedelman.com/olympus-6-month-report-card/

Go to 11 minutes and 55 seconds in this video to see the result of one of his photos printed 8 feet by 6 feet.


td, I have no beef with Edelman and his choice of equipment. In fact I'm a big fan of Edelman and find his work both VERY creative and very inspiring!
I did watch parts of the video and it's mostly fan-boy gobbledygook. I've never said that a ML or 4:3 was NOT a good camera. BUT since they've been assigned the
DSLR undertaker status, My question was SIMPLY if a 4:3 was actually BETTER than a FF dslr of the same mp?
When printing to 30x20, my question was merely if the 4:3 does a BETTER job at that size than than say a 50mp FF?
NOT whether an untrained eye will simply find both prints acceptable. JUST because a 4:3 can make an 8'x6' acceptable print does NOT mean it's a better print when put 10 feet of the ground. What about when you can walk right up to it in a gallery?
The flowing is an image I made a couple of weeks ago. This ia a crop from a FULL BODY image so the image is pretty small pixel-wise.
But go ahead and look up close! I could NOT have made this crop had my original file not been 50 mp!!!
Would a 4:3 do a BETTER job here and not merely a job that is good enough???
Go ahead and look at the veins in her eyes and the blue fabric, the detail is amazing!
td, you know I'm always gonna put my money where my mouth is! LoL

Taken with crummy Canon with floppy mirror! LoL
Taken with crummy Canon with floppy mirror! LoL...
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Jul 11, 2018 00:22:24   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
SharpShooter wrote:
td, I have no beef with Edelman and his choice of equipment. In fact I'm a big fan of Edelman and find his work both VERY creative and very inspiring!
I did watch parts of the video and it's mostly fan-boy gobbledygook. I've never said that a ML or 4:3 was NOT a good camera. BUT since they've been assigned the
DSLR undertaker status, My question was SIMPLY if a 4:3 was actually BETTER than a FF dslr of the same mp?
When printing to 30x20, my question was merely if the 4:3 does a BETTER job at that size than than say a 50mp FF?
NOT whether an untrained eye will simply find both prints acceptable. JUST because a 4:3 can make an 8'x6' acceptable print does NOT mean it's a better print when put 10 feet of the ground. What about when you can walk right up to it in a gallery?
The flowing is an image I made a couple of weeks ago. This ia a crop from a FULL BODY image so the image is pretty small pixel-wise.
But go ahead and look up close! I could NOT have made this crop had my original file not been 50 mp!!!
Would a 4:3 do a BETTER job here and not merely a job that is good enough???
Go ahead and look at the veins in her eyes and the blue fabric, the detail is amazing!
td, you know I'm always gonna put my money where my mouth is! LoL
td, I have no beef with Edelman and his choice of ... (show quote)


Is that flipping mirror the reason for that ultra saturated teal blue color? That flipping mirror threw glow-blue oil all over your sensor? ;) Man it really glows! :) Just kidding. OK!? Nice work.

I say we should all use what recording tools we like and that work for us. And we should support each other’s choices. Yeah right. Let’s see how that statement pans out here. Ha ha ha.

Viva la choices. It is a good time period to be a photographer.

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Jul 11, 2018 01:15:25   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
JD750 wrote:
Is that flipping mirror the reason for that ultra saturated teal blue color? That flipping mirror threw glow-blue oil all over your sensor? ;) Man it really glows! :) Just kidding. OK!? Nice work.

I say we should all use what recording tools we like and that work for us. And we should support each other’s choices. Yeah right. Let’s see how that statement pans out here. Ha ha ha.

Viva la choices. It is a good time period to be a photographer.


JD, LoL, I did once know a photographer that almost drowned his Model in oil, it was about ten years ago but he was using a Nikon D600!!!
SS

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Jul 11, 2018 03:04:30   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
SharpShooter wrote:
JD, LoL, I did once know a photographer that almost drowned his Model in oil, it was about ten years ago but he was using a Nikon D600!!!
SS


HA! That poor model. I feel her pain. Hopefully she had a female oil wrestling shoot planned next.

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Jul 11, 2018 19:36:16   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
SharpShooter wrote:
td, I have no beef with Edelman and his choice of equipment. In fact I'm a big fan of Edelman and find his work both VERY creative and very inspiring!
I did watch parts of the video and it's mostly fan-boy gobbledygook. I've never said that a ML or 4:3 was NOT a good camera. BUT since they've been assigned the
DSLR undertaker status, My question was SIMPLY if a 4:3 was actually BETTER than a FF dslr of the same mp?
When printing to 30x20, my question was merely if the 4:3 does a BETTER job at that size than than say a 50mp FF?
NOT whether an untrained eye will simply find both prints acceptable. JUST because a 4:3 can make an 8'x6' acceptable print does NOT mean it's a better print when put 10 feet of the ground. What about when you can walk right up to it in a gallery?
The flowing is an image I made a couple of weeks ago. This ia a crop from a FULL BODY image so the image is pretty small pixel-wise.
But go ahead and look up close! I could NOT have made this crop had my original file not been 50 mp!!!
Would a 4:3 do a BETTER job here and not merely a job that is good enough???
Go ahead and look at the veins in her eyes and the blue fabric, the detail is amazing!
td, you know I'm always gonna put my money where my mouth is! LoL
td, I have no beef with Edelman and his choice of ... (show quote)


I sincerely don’t think that was your question but now that you have made it clear, it is no different than the difference between FF vs MF. What you normally do is downplay it like it is a toy and not worth serious photography. I doubt that any pro would use m4/3 for the sake of using it. And in my opinion, is 50mp better than 16 or 20mp? Of course it is, if you need to crop a lot. And remember, that I have a 64mp camera at my disposal. But the real trouble will show up when Olympus finally figures out how to make the hi res feature hand holdable. And since Pentax did just that recently, with the K1 mark2, even though it is clearly not as good of an implementation (pentax’s Hi res) as Olympus’s, Oly has no more excuses.

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Jul 11, 2018 20:28:31   #
kcooke Loc: Alabama
 
GoofyNewfie wrote:
120/220 was only medium format! Loved my Mamiyas.
Wonder how many serious photographers here have used that or even large format?
(raises hand)


I Started with 120 in my personal Rollei and at work I used a B&L bellows camera through a microscope with 8x10 plate film for technical photography. 8x10 plate film rules

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