SOOC (Page 3): I have Tiff output on my Olympus E1 Pro, and my Fujifilm S2Pro. Both shoot RAW, Jpeg and Tiff file output. Yeah.... big deal!

Kuzano

Gene51 wrote:

straight out of camera - unedited by any post processing software. This is usually, but not always, a jpeg file. It is never a raw file.

I have Tiff output on my Olympus E1 Pro, and my Fujifilm S2Pro. Both shoot RAW, Jpeg and Tiff file output. Yeah.... big deal!

gmsatty Loc: Chicago IL

SOOC is really not straight out of the camera, because the jpg software processes the image.

Kuzano

gmsatty wrote:

SOOC is really not straight out of the camera, because the jpg software processes the image.

Picky, Picky, Picky......

lmTrying Loc: WV Northern Panhandle

It seems that the definition of SOOC is dependent upon ones level of techno geekiness. A RAW file has to be converted in some fashion (usually to a jpeg) to be printed. An image shot in jpeg format has already been processed in the camera to the settings established by the photographer, or the camera even on full auto mode. These are the things I was told on this forum last year. So according to some, there is NO SUCH THING as SOOC. Really??? Come on!! If I stick the memory card in the slot in the printer and tell it to print, does that qualify or not because it had to be converted to dpi. This is one term I really wish the International Standards Organization would sit down and define.

leftj Loc: Texas

Kuzano wrote:

Picky, Picky, Picky......

It doesn't matter that it's processed in camera. SOOC means no processing post camera.

ChristianHJensen

robertjerl wrote:

Interchangeable with OOC (out of camera).
There is no such thing as NO processing, unless you shoot only jpeg and never even crop. At a minimum the image is converted from RAW to jpeg or another format that can be worked with, printed, posted etc. And when that happens the image is changed according to the presets (in camera jpeg has a bunch of processing presets also).

Even a JPEG is processed in the camera as the camera does record a raw file and applies white balance, possible lens corrections to that file to produce and store the JPEG file - only difference is that the original raw file is then discarded rather than stored as a raw file

Kuzano

leftj wrote:

It doesn't matter that it's processed in camera. SOOC means no processing post camera.

This is totally appropriate. My interpretation of SOOC does not imply no processing. It is based on on taking advantage of the full capabilities of contemporary camera's and as in my Fuji camera's taking advantage of of the 7 custom profiles. If I wanted to go entirely to processing after the fact, I could jump back about a decade on camera's and just shoot RAW. As it is, I don't shoot RAW, and I rarely process in post.

Why, ..... I've been consulting on computers for nearly 30 years now. I get no joy from sitting in front of a computer for any purpose and particularly not for my photography which I have done for twice that many years. If I wanted to be a Graphic Illustrator, I would work for a marketing firm and make money on my computers. (which I already do in my consulting.)

SOOC as I practice it, is photography, done in the field, with proper settings to get a final image, and YES processed in the camera. What comes out of the camera is done, and presentable. I know how to post process, and used both PSE and Photoshop for almost a decade... intently for five years. I find post processing on the computer to be devoid of any reward or joy.

Then, as the camera's became more capable in their Image Processors, to allow me to simply switch to a custom profile, similar to pulling up a list of presets in post processing software, I found more pleasure in creating images that did not require me to spend time in front of a computer.

So with all the various misunderstandings about SOOC vs. post processing, I want to be clear that I never implied in my use of SOOC that there was no processing done on the images. Rather, it's a matter of when and where the processing takes place. In fact, when I shoot Olympus, sometimed the Art Filters do exactly what I want and that is surely SOOC. And the Art Filters can be bracketed for one push of the shutter.

I realize that some people (a lot of) often get their "Rocks Off" in Post Processing. Good for them. I find it painful compared to what I can do in the camera as they evolve. In fact, I still shoot a lot of film, and actually have a suitable keeper rate with non electric, non program cameras and various emulsions of film.

SOOC, highly misunderstood and quite rewarding for many. It's not uncommon to see posts from people who are fed up with post processing,
Adobe, Other programs, and what not.

Study what you can do with your camera, and there is no truth to the "my next camera is going to be the one...... or, when I really learn how to post process in Photoshop, I will have arrived.......It's all a great myth to keep the money flowing from your wallet to the camera and software vendors.

TheDman Loc: USA

Kuzano wrote:

This is totally appropriate. My interpretation of SOOC does not imply no processing. It is based on on taking advantage of the full capabilities of contemporary camera's and as in my Fuji camera's taking advantage of of the 7 custom profiles. If I wanted to go entirely to processing after the fact, I could jump back about a decade on camera's and just shoot RAW. As it is, I don't shoot RAW, and I rarely process in post.

Why, ..... I've been consulting on computers for nearly 30 years now. I get no joy from sitting in front of a computer for any purpose and particularly not for my photography which I have done for twice that many years. If I wanted to be a Graphic Illustrator, I would work for a marketing firm and make money on my computers. (which I already do in my consulting.)

SOOC as I practice it, is photography, done in the field, with proper settings to get a final image, and YES processed in the camera. What comes out of the camera is done, and presentable. I know how to post process, and used both PSE and Photoshop for almost a decade... intently for five years. I find post processing on the computer to be devoid of any reward or joy.

Then, as the camera's became more capable in their Image Processors, to allow me to simply switch to a custom profile, similar to pulling up a list of presets in post processing software, I found more pleasure in creating images that did not require me to spend time in front of a computer.

So with all the various misunderstandings about SOOC vs. post processing, I want to be clear that I never implied in my use of SOOC that there was no processing done on the images. Rather, it's a matter of when and where the processing takes place. In fact, when I shoot Olympus, sometimed the Art Filters do exactly what I want and that is surely SOOC. And the Art Filters can be bracketed for one push of the shutter.

I realize that some people (a lot of) often get their "Rocks Off" in Post Processing. Good for them. I find it painful compared to what I can do in the camera as they evolve. In fact, I still shoot a lot of film, and actually have a suitable keeper rate with non electric, non program cameras and various emulsions of film.

SOOC, highly misunderstood and quite rewarding for many. It's not uncommon to see posts from people who are fed up with post processing,
Adobe, Other programs, and what not.

Study what you can do with your camera, and there is no truth to the "my next camera is going to be the one...... or, when I really learn how to post process in Photoshop, I will have arrived.......It's all a great myth to keep the money flowing from your wallet to the camera and software vendors.

This is totally appropriate. My interpretation of ... (show quote)

When you hold the camera to your eye, you're sitting behind a computer. Just a really lousy one compared to your desktop.

RichardSM Loc: Back in Texas

BebuLamar wrote:

Still better than the question "Which camera should I buy?".

The one that works for you. I could not resist lol.

leftj Loc: Texas

ChristianHJensen wrote:

Even a JPEG is processed in the camera as the camera does record a raw file and applies white balance, possible lens corrections to that file to produce and store the JPEG file - only difference is that the original raw file is then discarded rather than stored as a raw file

SOOC is about what happens outside the camera, not what happens inside the camera.

DanielB Loc: San Diego, Ca

That would be just too easy...

CHG_CANON wrote:

I'm not trying to discourage asking questions, but many times, you can get a quick and accurate answer, particularly for acronyms, by asking google. For example, "sooc photography" returned 321,000 results in 0.41 seconds with SOOC being correctly defined as the top result.

TheDman Loc: USA

leftj wrote:

SOOC is about what happens outside the camera, not what happens inside the camera.

So if I snap a cell phone selfie and give myself bunny ears with the Snapchat filter, is that a SOOC pic because it all happened inside the camera?

leftj Loc: Texas

Yep

robertjerl Loc: Corona, California

leftj wrote:

This post shows a complete misunderstanding of what SOOC is.

Southern Ontario Otter Center!?!?!?!?

leftj Loc: Texas

robertjerl wrote:

Southern Ontario Otter Center!?!?!?!?

Finally someone got it!