SOOC (Page 4): Didn't have the heart to tell the nice little old lady docent that the animal swimming by that she was chattering on about was a beaver.

robertjerl Loc: Corona, California

leftj wrote:

Finally someone got it!

Didn't have the heart to tell the nice little old lady docent that the animal swimming by that she was chattering on about was a beaver.

tommystrat Loc: Bigfork, Montana

Cdouthitt wrote:

When in doubt head over to urban dictionary...he, he.

Straight out of Compton
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=SOOC

yo, yo...knowhatimsayin'?? Feelin' ya, bro ;-)

tommystrat Loc: Bigfork, Montana

Stupid Old Outdated Camera

amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA

Gene51 wrote:

straight out of camera - unedited by any post processing software. This is usually, but not always, a jpeg file. It is never a raw file.

Yep, that's a correct definition of SOOC...

But in a sense it's also incorrect or misleading, because there's actually no such thing as an entirely un-post-processed and unedited image.

All digital cameras capture a RAW file initially.... always. If the camera is set to "RAW", it saves the entire file, including some data about how the camera was set in various ways (white balance, saturation, contrast, etc.). The RAW file isn't "finished"... further work on it will be required before the image will be usable, including converting it to a viewable file type (often a JPEG). That's done on a computer with various software and referred to as post-processing. The software use varies. Most camera manufacturers have their own RAW conversion software and one of the options is to simply convert the RAW "as shot"... in other words, exactly the same way as would have been done in the camera. When that's done, it's just as SOOC as if the camera were set to JPEG, isn't it?

Most digital cameras can be set to record and save a JPEG. When that's done, there's still a RAW file being captured initially. But then the post-processing is being done in the camera itself, according to the settings of the camera, and a JPEG file is produced. With the camera set to JPEG, this conversion process is done instantly and automatically. So, in another sense, the image is being post-processed and cannot possibly be a "straight" rendition of what the camera initially captured. According to how the camera was set, the JPEG has had adjustments made to contrast, color saturation, and more.... noise reduction and sharpening have been applied to it, too. And then, unless the camera is set to save both RAW + JPEG, the RAW file is discarded, inclusing whatever data the camera has deemed "unnecessary" to the image (which is one reason why JPEG files are smaller than RAW files).

So the term SOOC really is an over-simplification. All images actually go through some form of post-processing... whether it be automatic and in-camera or more user controlled in their computer. SOOC essentially means "I let the camera automatically convert the image from RAW to JPEG in-camera, hoping that all my settings were correct and giving up much of my opportunity to correct or fine tune things, and haven't done anything more to the image since.".... As opposed to taking the image through a more carefully controlled in-computer RAW to JPEG conversion process, with the benefit of a large and possibly color-calibrated screen to view the image during the process and more opportunity to correct and fine tune things, as needed.

Or maybe SOOC just means "Stubborn, odoriferous, old coot"

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

I view SOOC as referring to images which were processed in the camera by professionally designed automation. The user can 'tweak' parameters, but it is the closest thing we have today to the Kodachrome I used in the age of film, just as LightRoom is the closest thing we have to the Darkroom that so many others used.

EdR Loc: Gig Harbor, WA

amfoto1 wrote:

Yep, that's a correct definition of SOOC...

But in a sense it's also incorrect or misleading, because there's actually no such thing as an entirely un-post-processed and unedited image.

All digital cameras capture a RAW file initially.... always. If the camera is set to "RAW", it saves the entire file, including some data about how the camera was set in various ways (white balance, saturation, contrast, etc.). The RAW file isn't "finished"... further work on it will be required before the image will be usable, including converting it to a viewable file type (often a JPEG). That's done on a computer with various software and referred to as post-processing. The software use varies. Most camera manufacturers have their own RAW conversion software and one of the options is to simply convert the RAW "as shot"... in other words, exactly the same way as would have been done in the camera. When that's done, it's just as SOOC as if the camera were set to JPEG, isn't it?

Most digital cameras can be set to record and save a JPEG. When that's done, there's still a RAW file being captured initially. But then the post-processing is being done in the camera itself, according to the settings of the camera, and a JPEG file is produced. With the camera set to JPEG, this conversion process is done instantly and automatically. So, in another sense, the image is being post-processed and cannot possibly be a "straight" rendition of what the camera initially captured. According to how the camera was set, the JPEG has had adjustments made to contrast, color saturation, and more.... noise reduction and sharpening have been applied to it, too. And then, unless the camera is set to save both RAW + JPEG, the RAW file is discarded, inclusing whatever data the camera has deemed "unnecessary" to the image (which is one reason why JPEG files are smaller than RAW files).

So the term SOOC really is an over-simplification. All images actually go through some form of post-processing... whether it be automatic and in-camera or more user controlled in their computer. SOOC essentially means "I let the camera automatically convert the image from RAW to JPEG in-camera, hoping that all my settings were correct and giving up much of my opportunity to correct or fine tune things, and haven't done anything more to the image since.".... As opposed to taking the image through a more carefully controlled in-computer RAW to JPEG conversion process, with the benefit of a large and possibly color-calibrated screen to view the image during the process and more opportunity to correct and fine tune things, as needed.

Or maybe SOOC just means "Stubborn, odoriferous, old coot"

Yep, that's a correct definition of SOOC... br br... (show quote)

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