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Mar 21, 2018 11:28:11   #
Brucej67 Loc: Cary, NC
 
I don't use the touch screen, I found out that on my Nikon 1 V3, D500 and D850 that when viewing through the viewfinder my nose changes the settings on me, so I turn the touch screen off. I still have my D800 and use it occasionally, it is still a very useful camera even though I have the D810 and D850, the D800 surprised me when I took it to Charleston SC and shot at 10pm at 6400 ISO without getting noise (photo attached) .

IDguy wrote:
Ah, missed that.

Have you used the touch screen?

I don’t like the unlighted buttons and little green screen control approach of the D800. I much prefer the info screen approach of the D5xxx, brought to a new level of elegance on the D5600 with the touch screen. Much better than finding randomly placed buttons and using the green screen which I find unreadable without reading glasses.

I have learned to make do on the D800 by turning on the info screen on thr D800. You can set it to happen when you push the on lever further. Then it provides the button info on the info screen when you press a button. But it would be better with an active info screen like the D5xxxs, and better yet with touch screen.
Ah, missed that. br br Have you used the touch sc... (show quote)

Taken with D800 at ISO 6400.
Taken with D800 at ISO 6400....
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Mar 21, 2018 11:42:57   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
Brucej67 wrote:
I don't use the touch screen, I found out that on my Nikon 1 V3, D500 and D850 that when viewing through the viewfinder my nose changes the settings on me, so I turn the touch screen off. I still have my D800 and use it occasionally, it is still a very useful camera even though I have the D810 and D850, the D800 surprised me when I took it to Charleston SC and shot at 10pm at 6400 ISO without getting noise (photo attached) .


Yes, the D800 does a nice job at high ISO.

I find the touch screen very usefull on my Lumix GM5 and D5600...much more than I thought I would. Because of my inabilty to keep track of button locations, especially in the dark, I feel the combo of lighted buttons and touch screen of the D850 appeal.

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Mar 21, 2018 11:50:56   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
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Mar 21, 2018 11:53:22   #
jobee
 
If you love SHARP focused images you will love the higher resolution lcd monitor for tack sharp manual focus. When tripod shooting I use it exclusively. It blows away the 810 monitor. My photo buddy who bought my 810 now wants the 850 for this feature alone!

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Mar 21, 2018 12:33:24   #
bpulv Loc: Buena Park, CA
 
akamerica wrote:
I have the Nikon 810 and am hung-up on selling the 810 and buying the 850.

Not a pro, just a serious hobbyist taking mostly walk-about scenery, travels, family, and of course, Trooper Dog.

A decent set of Nikon lens to include the 85mm, 70-200mm, 35-70mm 2.8 w/macro (old) shooting in RAW and doing selected pictures in
Occasional an enlarged print for my wall but mostly slide shows with a Blu-ray DVD on a flat screen TV for the best resolution. I love SHARP focused pictures. Using Photoshop's Camera RAW.

?Will the increased number of the 850's 45.7MP pixels produce a less sharp picture even with a hand-held VR lens on the 850? (all of my lens are VR except the 35-70.) Yes, I do understand increasing the shutter speed - but still. . ..
?Concerned that the on-camera flash has been eliminated making flash fill shots not possible without adding my flash attachment or overexposing the background?
If you have gone to the 850 from the 810 I would be interested in your thoughts. Would you do it again and why?
I have the Nikon 810 and am hung-up on selling the... (show quote)


Ask yourself, "As an amature, how many features (a number) on my D810 do I use and how many (a number) do I not use?" Then ask yourself, "Which NEW features on the D850 (a number) will I use and which NEW features will I not use (a number)?"

Now consider that Nikon came out with the D850 about three years after the D810. In that three years, your D810 has lost $1,500 in value; about half of its new cost. The D850 has been out for about eight months. Assuming that Nikon comes out with the D850's replacement in two years and four months or sooner, are you prepared to take another $1,500 loss so that you can have the latest technology again?

If you cannot make the photographs you want with the D810, that tells me that you will not be able to make the photographs you want with the D850 because your skills have not advanced to a level that you need a D850 to move forward.

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Mar 21, 2018 12:40:53   #
mas24 Loc: Southern CA
 
Brucej67 wrote:
I don't use the touch screen, I found out that on my Nikon 1 V3, D500 and D850 that when viewing through the viewfinder my nose changes the settings on me, so I turn the touch screen off. I still have my D800 and use it occasionally, it is still a very useful camera even though I have the D810 and D850, the D800 surprised me when I took it to Charleston SC and shot at 10pm at 6400 ISO without getting noise (photo attached) .


I second the comments regarding this being a very good photo at ISO 6400. Since, you own all three of the D800 Series cameras. The D800 has an aa filter. The others do not. How do you compare to the D810. I believe the two have the same 36 megapixels sensor?

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Mar 21, 2018 12:54:56   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
bpulv wrote:
Ask yourself, "As an amature, how many features (a number) on my D810 do I use and how many (a number) do I not use?" Then ask yourself, "Which NEW features on the D850 (a number) will I use and which NEW features will I not use (a number)?"

Now consider that Nikon came out with the D850 about three years after the D810. In that three years, your D810 has lost $1,500 in value; about half of its new cost. The D850 has been out for about eight months. Assuming that Nikon comes out with the D850's replacement in two years and four months or sooner, are you prepared to take another $1,500 loss so that you can have the latest technology again?

If you cannot make the photographs you want with the D810, that tells me that you will not be able to make the photographs you want with the D850 because your skills have not advanced to a level that you need a D850 to move forward.
Ask yourself, "As an amature, how many featur... (show quote)


I wonder how many have considered that some may enjoy simply owning the latest and greatest? Perhaps their ability to do so make some jealous.

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Mar 21, 2018 12:55:25   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
bpulv wrote:
Ask yourself, "As an amature, how many features (a number) on my D810 do I use and how many (a number) do I not use?" Then ask yourself, "Which NEW features on the D850 (a number) will I use and which NEW features will I not use (a number)?"

Now consider that Nikon came out with the D850 about three years after the D810. In that three years, your D810 has lost $1,500 in value; about half of its new cost. The D850 has been out for about eight months. Assuming that Nikon comes out with the D850's replacement in two years and four months or sooner, are you prepared to take another $1,500 loss so that you can have the latest technology again?

If you cannot make the photographs you want with the D810, that tells me that you will not be able to make the photographs you want with the D850 because your skills have not advanced to a level that you need a D850 to move forward.
Ask yourself, "As an amature, how many featur... (show quote)


As a hobbiest the cost isn’t a loss. You can spend a lot more on other toys such as motorcycles, atvs, and boats.

Cameras don’t require registration, insurance, oil changes, or gas, and often get used more than other toys.

So do what adds to your happiness!

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Mar 21, 2018 13:13:17   #
jackpinoh Loc: Kettering, OH 45419
 
akamerica wrote:
I have the Nikon 810 and am hung-up on selling the 810 and buying the 850.

Not a pro, just a serious hobbyist taking mostly walk-about scenery, travels, family, and of course, Trooper Dog.

A decent set of Nikon lens to include the 85mm, 70-200mm, 35-70mm 2.8 w/macro (old) shooting in RAW and doing selected pictures in
Occasional an enlarged print for my wall but mostly slide shows with a Blu-ray DVD on a flat screen TV for the best resolution. I love SHARP focused pictures. Using Photoshop's Camera RAW.

?Will the increased number of the 850's 45.7MP pixels produce a less sharp picture even with a hand-held VR lens on the 850? (all of my lens are VR except the 35-70.) Yes, I do understand increasing the shutter speed - but still. . ..
?Concerned that the on-camera flash has been eliminated making flash fill shots not possible without adding my flash attachment or overexposing the background?

If you have gone to the 850 from the 810 I would be interested in your thoughts. Would you do it again and why?
I have the Nikon 810 and am hung-up on selling the... (show quote)

I don't think you will get much of a return on your investment in the D850 in terms of improvement in the type of photos you make. While the D850 is a big upgrade to the D810 in terms of frames per second and features such as focus stacking and a relatively smaller (13%) improvement in resolution and AF performance. Everyone I know who owns a D810 (I used one for three years and decided not to upgrade to the D850) or any other Nikon camera can get sharp photos hand-held. For the type of photography you do, even 24Mp would be more than adequate for display on a HD TV screen or large prints (I assume you aren't printing larger than 24"x36".)

On-camera flash does not flatter the subject unless you bounce it off a wall. If I photograph people during the time of day when the sun is casting strong shadows, I make sure they are in the shade and, whenever possible, use sunlight bounced off an adjacent wall to add interesting side lighting. Try that.

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Mar 21, 2018 13:17:55   #
Rich1939 Loc: Pike County Penna.
 
bpulv wrote:
Ask yourself, "As an amature, how many features (a number) on my D810 do I use and how many (a number) do I not use?" Then ask yourself, "Which NEW features on the D850 (a number) will I use and which NEW features will I not use (a number)?"

Now consider that Nikon came out with the D850 about three years after the D810. In that three years, your D810 has lost $1,500 in value; about half of its new cost. The D850 has been out for about eight months. Assuming that Nikon comes out with the D850's replacement in two years and four months or sooner, are you prepared to take another $1,500 loss so that you can have the latest technology again?

If you cannot make the photographs you want with the D810, that tells me that you will not be able to make the photographs you want with the D850 because your skills have not advanced to a level that you need a D850 to move forward.
Ask yourself, "As an amature, how many featur... (show quote)


Economics major???

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Mar 21, 2018 13:28:54   #
Flickwet Loc: NEOhio
 
IDguy wrote:
As a hobbiest the cost isn’t a loss. You can spend a lot more on other toys such as motorcycles, atvs, and boats.

Cameras don’t require registration, insurance, oil changes, or gas, and often get used more than other toys.

So do what adds to your happiness!


Gets it

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Mar 21, 2018 14:33:10   #
Brucej67 Loc: Cary, NC
 
You are right, one of the major differences is the anti alias filter, another id the D810 has better dynamic resolution over the D800. The D800 series certainly are award winners in both construction and capability, but like any other piece of equipment the results are in the ability of the person using the equipment. The D850 magnify any issues you have (like shake) more than the D800 and D810. The D810 has better IQ than the D800 due to the removal of the AA filter. The D850 focuses (using the same lens) faster than the D810. All the cameras have features that are great, but no one camera incorporates all the features of every other camera, guess if they did the manufacturer couldn't sell the variety.

mas24 wrote:
I second the comments regarding this being a very good photo at ISO 6400. Since, you own all three of the D800 Series cameras. The D800 has an aa filter. The others do not. How do you compare to the D810. I believe the two have the same 36 megapixels sensor?

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Mar 21, 2018 15:46:52   #
mikeroetex Loc: Lafayette, LA
 
bpulv wrote:
Ask yourself, "As an amature, how many features (a number) on my D810 do I use and how many (a number) do I not use?" Then ask yourself, "Which NEW features on the D850 (a number) will I use and which NEW features will I not use (a number)?"

Now consider that Nikon came out with the D850 about three years after the D810. In that three years, your D810 has lost $1,500 in value; about half of its new cost. The D850 has been out for about eight months. Assuming that Nikon comes out with the D850's replacement in two years and four months or sooner, are you prepared to take another $1,500 loss so that you can have the latest technology again?

If you cannot make the photographs you want with the D810, that tells me that you will not be able to make the photographs you want with the D850 because your skills have not advanced to a level that you need a D850 to move forward.
Ask yourself, "As an amature, how many featur... (show quote)


Round of golf $49 x twice a month x 36 months = $3600
Golf balls @ $40 a dozen per month = $1440
New putter 1 x 3 years = $149
Driver, woods and irons = $2200.. worth $750 after 5 years, loss of $1450

Skills have not advanced to level of PGA Tour.... guess I'll switch to a D850 and save money!

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Mar 21, 2018 17:09:37   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
bpulv wrote:
Ask yourself, "As an amature, how many features (a number) on my D810 do I use and how many (a number) do I not use?" Then ask yourself, "Which NEW features on the D850 (a number) will I use and which NEW features will I not use (a number)?"

Now consider that Nikon came out with the D850 about three years after the D810. In that three years, your D810 has lost $1,500 in value; about half of its new cost. The D850 has been out for about eight months. Assuming that Nikon comes out with the D850's replacement in two years and four months or sooner, are you prepared to take another $1,500 loss so that you can have the latest technology again?

If you cannot make the photographs you want with the D810, that tells me that you will not be able to make the photographs you want with the D850 because your skills have not advanced to a level that you need a D850 to move forward.
Ask yourself, "As an amature, how many featur... (show quote)


My wife doesn't think that my images will improve if I upgrade from the 800E to an 850.
But, she doesn't know a damned thing about cameras.

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Mar 21, 2018 18:04:22   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
My wife doesn't think that my images will improve if I upgrade from the 800E to an 850.
But, she doesn't know a damned thing about cameras.


Gee, my wife was very pleased when I bought mine and even wished me well.

Yeah, right.

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